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‘The time is finished’: Religious sect erects billboards in Toronto ahead of the ‘transformation’
National Post ^ | 5/1/12 | Armina Ligaya,

Posted on 05/06/2012 9:27:42 AM PDT by reaganaut

ST. CATHARINES, ONT. — Doris Rosado watches her teenage daughters, Ninette and Kiara Mongrut, get the numbers “666” tattooed on their wrists, beaming with pride. The number typically conjures up biblical symbolism tied to the Antichrist, but this St. Catharines, Ont., family belongs to a obscure Christian sect for which “666” is a positive symbol of their group’s messianic leader. “They wanted to do it,” Ms. Rosado, 45, said at the St. Catharines tattoo parlour where her daughters were inked. “But now it’s more important because we’re counting down… I’m so proud.”

For this family, and other members of Growing in Grace International, these tattoos are a way of demonstrating their faith as true believers of Jose de Luis de Jesus — who they fervently believe is the second coming of Jesus Christ — before a day of reckoning they believe will wipe out most of humanity.

The group, which they say has branches in five Canadian cities and members in more than 130 countries, believes that on June 30 (or July 1 across the international dateline), their Texas-based leader and his followers will be transformed, said Alex Poessy, the group’s bishop in Canada. To spread the word, Growing in Grace put up billboards in Toronto this week featuring Mr. de Jesus. “That day, the body of Jose de Luis de Jesus, who is a human like you and me, his flesh is going to be immortal…. He’s going to be living forever. And that will happen to him, but also his followers.” But, said Mr. Poessy: “All those that are not believers are going to be destroyed.”

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; Other non-Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: 666; cult; dejesus; endtimes
Cult says 666 is a good thing, their leader is the second coming of Christ, and that they will be 'transformed' which will endow him, and his loyal followers, with superpowers, such as the ability to fly and walk through walls and take over the government.

From the article : “The world’s not going to end. What is going to end is the system…. All the governments and the currencies will fall. The new government of the 666 will take over,” she said. The group’s billboards feature a picture of Mr. de Jesus, with such messages as “666, number of wisdom” or “Countdown to the transformation June 30, 2012.”

1 posted on 05/06/2012 9:27:52 AM PDT by reaganaut
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To: Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; Tennessee Nana; ...

One more post because this sounds so familiar...


2 posted on 05/06/2012 9:29:41 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: reaganaut

Que twilight zone music


3 posted on 05/06/2012 9:31:49 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Godzilla

Their teachings include, there is no Satan, the Leader is “the Man Christ Jesus”, there is no sin and so on...

http://cegenglish.com/


4 posted on 05/06/2012 9:34:28 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: reaganaut

“’666’ is a positive symbol”???????????????


5 posted on 05/06/2012 9:36:05 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: reaganaut
I think I saw that movie.


6 posted on 05/06/2012 9:37:21 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: reaganaut
there is no sin

How very convenient.

7 posted on 05/06/2012 9:41:02 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

That was my thought as well.


8 posted on 05/06/2012 9:45:15 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: reaganaut; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...

Cult watch......

Well, it does provide opportunities to witness.


9 posted on 05/06/2012 10:03:03 AM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: reaganaut

Yikes! And double yikes. What a double open delusion.


10 posted on 05/06/2012 10:08:52 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: reaganaut
Here is something from the article.

Canadian member Ana Guevara, 20, brushes the cult claims off.

“All our lives have been enriched with this…. If we were a cult, then I guess we’re a pretty awesome cult. Because it’s teaching you how to live happy. How to live in a good mood,” says Ms. Guevara, whose family is also part of Growing in Grace.

It gets stranger and stranger...........................

11 posted on 05/06/2012 10:22:45 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: reaganaut
time is finished
Pssst, wanna' buy a comet and some sneakers?
Only used once.

12 posted on 05/06/2012 10:23:24 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: reaganaut

If they are a cult that gives you lots of sex, I’m in.


13 posted on 05/06/2012 10:25:27 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: reaganaut

Oh, my goodness.

Lord have mercy on all the children!


14 posted on 05/06/2012 10:26:52 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Lazamataz

If they are a cult that gives you lots of sex, I’m in.

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For that you will have to join the Fundamentalist Mormons (like Warren Jeffs group). Sorry.


15 posted on 05/06/2012 10:30:19 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: johngrace

If we were a cult, then I guess we’re a pretty awesome cult. Because it’s teaching you how to live happy. How to live in a good mood,”

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You might be surprised at how many members of different cults say almost the exact same thing...a common mantra is “Well if it makes me feel good, or be a better person, then it doesn’t matter what we believe or if we are a cult”.


16 posted on 05/06/2012 10:32:01 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: reaganaut

Mt 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not.
Mt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Mt 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
Mt 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not.
Mt 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.


17 posted on 05/06/2012 10:36:33 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Romney would surrender to Islam as fast as Obama promotes it)
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To: reaganaut
Yes!

But how many are open about the mark of the beast.

It also can be a desensitizing of all things satan.

I bet ya they are big pot heads too. Notice how pot is becoming on the board on certain states for review. People who smoke alot are so out of it. I met a certain group of old friends last year. Well they are smoking weed on the side of the party totally out of it. The coming back talking wacky crap.

The drug culture will usher in all this crap eventually. We need prayers and witnessing.

Satan is pointing his finger up in the air. He is seeing which way the wind blows for his kind. He checks how we tolerate this so he can really put his toes in the water to take the big dive.

I would not surprise me if a seal was open from the Book of Revelation.

18 posted on 05/06/2012 10:46:51 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: reaganaut
Though many will of course smile and ignore this as nut cases, and it is a counterfeit cult.....what these doomsday cults do is “condition” the public to ignore the real truth when it is told.

Satan will always have counterfeits....but by doing it in this manner, (via cultish teachings), counterfeits nullify the whole and real “truth” by twisting and perverting it, therefore people will not hear the real truth when it is told. Many who have left cults,(finally), have great difficulty going to a solid church because cults use Christian terminology, so when they hear that vocabulary, though it's presented rightly, it causes confusion... so many simply withdraw from religion period.

The whole cult idea (satanic counterfeits) is ultimately to destroy an individuals desire for the things of God. ..and that is accomplished thru these cults using His terminology in a twisted manner.....so when they hear it otherwise it can often seem equally distorted and offensive...though it's not.

For some a catch 22.

19 posted on 05/06/2012 10:58:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: RaceBannon

Thanks!


20 posted on 05/06/2012 11:00:47 AM PDT by ShasheMac
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To: johngrace

I would not surprise me either. Even on here, how often are we told we need to ‘tolerate’ heresies, or worldly things are more important than souls? Too often.

I do take comfort that there are still some who fight for the truth at all costs, but I fear we are becoming less and less.


21 posted on 05/06/2012 11:01:19 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: caww

Many who have left cults,(finally), have great difficulty going to a solid church because cults use Christian terminology, so when they hear that vocabulary, though it’s presented rightly, it causes confusion...
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Very true. That is something I deal with in my ministry on a daily basis. Teaching someone what terms really mean and what the Bible really says is often a difficult but necessary task.


22 posted on 05/06/2012 11:03:35 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: reaganaut
The use of verbage," Countdown" and "Tranformation", are greatly used also by most cults and false religions:

New Age Spiritual groups,.... Mayan Doomsday predictors..., Mormons @ Scientologist who both seek government control,...The “Latter Rain” movement.... also is about power and doing miracles to persuade people about Jesus and establishing government.

To the.. “Seeker friendly”... it is about friendship without producing guilt and telling people about Jesus 'without giving the gospel' and cure there sin.

The “Indigenous people movement”.... makes use of the many pagan cultures gods to bridge people to Jesus; accommodating them by saying God was working among their culture and through their religion before the message of Christ arrived.

To “Christian Humanists,” it is about promoting the social gospel,... helping people by feeding them, finding them shelter and speaking of peace for us all by working together for world improvement Scientologists and a host of others...

The “Emergent movement” as a movement, is questioning the Bibles accuracy and the doctrines of historic Christianity by using the dialectic process, 'convincing people to side with the new concepts' they are introducing into the church.

The 'Enviornmentals Movement'...who ultimately worship the earth and are often found in these cultish groups.

What we are seeing today is not just a system of false Bible beliefs replacing the genuine,.. but a challenge to the Bibles basic beliefs themselves, ...replaced with other religions practices to form something new..........

What would be the fastest and most efficient way to deconstruct the church?.......... ''Remove the church from the word and substitute it with the current world philosophies and foreign religious practices'.......... Using other religious practices with Christianity compromises you,... diminishes your faith, ...your devotion and obedience to the word......(Let US Reason)

The ultimate goal and idea will be all of them will be an... "In-gathering"......which will focus on one common denominator.... These groups will merge more and more as they see their similarities...and tolerate any differences.

All of this is Counterfeit Christianity in one form or another...which because people do not know the scriptures and what they Do teach they cannot either identify a counterfeit.

A Christian is 'no longer a seeker' but 'a possessor of the truth' - when he walks 'by the word of God' and in the Spirit. .....A believer in Christ does not call himself a spiritual seeker (beginner or seasoned) they have found the truth in Jesus Christ.... But this is what these movements are about, they are restless not finding peace in Christ...

23 posted on 05/06/2012 11:30:09 AM PDT by caww
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To: reaganaut
That is something I deal with in my ministry on a daily basis. Teaching someone what terms really mean and what the Bible really says is often a difficult but necessary task.

Unfortunately cults are often highly emotional or with a focus on "feeling"...which these are attached to this false verbiage that's drum booted into their minds.....so all their 'senses' generally "recall" as you're explaining the truth....so they have an inner battle between the mind and the emotions. Which interesting is often times, thru the brainwashing process, they lack critical thinking skills...so the emotions take over.

As has been said..."Emotions get in the way".

I commend you for taking on this ministry...it is a very draining and difficult road....you are surely up against "Strongholds" and why they are called that.... though people coming out of cults come to a place where they realize they've been dubbed....their defenses are up that it's not going to happen again.

This is very similar to a husband or wife who pledged their love and devotion to one another.....only to find one or the other was having a hot and heavy affair on the side right from the start...that the love and devotion professed was a sham...from the start.

The offended party questions how they could have trusted such when it was clearly there from the beginning...so guilt comes in strong and hard as well.

I personally believe fully that getting these people to Trust God's word...and 'stay with it' til they see the truth...and not what they want to see but what HE reveals to them in time.... is the most important part of their recovery....and standing by while God and they pull themsleves thru the maze.

24 posted on 05/06/2012 11:49:16 AM PDT by caww
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To: reaganaut
I fear we are becoming less and less.

Yes we most definately are....but Christ said there would come a time where truth could no longer be found....we are seeing the beginnings of this....

2 Cor 10:5 (NIV)..... We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

Mat 7:13-14 (NIV) "Enter through the narrow gate. For Wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it....... But Small is the gate and Narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

25 posted on 05/06/2012 12:01:26 PM PDT by caww
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To: reaganaut

LoL


26 posted on 05/06/2012 12:04:19 PM PDT by caww
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To: johngrace
It also can be a desensitizing of all things satan.

That's exactly right john, and is how he works. Abortion is a good example of that in how it came into our courts of law and made legal.

The one most defining issue surrounding abortion is "defining" the terms life and baby, or something else. Same with religious cults in peoples thinking...if it makes them happy, if they feeel better for it...then it's acceptable. Defining the use of vergaige is important.

27 posted on 05/06/2012 12:09:29 PM PDT by caww
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To: reaganaut

Sounds like a liberal vote: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2880383/posts?page=26#26


28 posted on 05/06/2012 12:23:22 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to forgive+save you,+live....)
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To: caww

I agree.


29 posted on 05/06/2012 12:27:37 PM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: UCANSEE2

Which movie is that? I missed that one...


30 posted on 05/06/2012 12:38:52 PM PDT by mrreaganaut (Gingrich/Santorum 2012!)
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To: mrreaganaut

31 posted on 05/06/2012 12:42:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: caww
Yes! Good example.

You know I moved from New York in December 2010 to Georgia. Well, I lived in My Mom and Dads original House. The paper stuff I found in November had records and pamphlets that my Mom(Rest In Peace) kept.

Some were about when abortion first became legal. 1973. She was in the forefront of the Pro-life movement. What was stated to be allowed that these flyers and newsletters showed was like being portrayed not many would go for abortion but is available. Well the enemy is very clever. What now 55 million in America all killed and how many in the world.

I am very humbly proud of my mother. She would go to meetings for this cause. She wrote wonderful God given Footnotes on the paper. When I saw it was like talking to her from the past.

32 posted on 05/06/2012 1:00:12 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: reaganaut

Channeling Jim Jones.


33 posted on 05/06/2012 4:53:20 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

I was thinking David Koresh or the Heaven’s Gate guy, but Jones will work as well.


34 posted on 05/06/2012 5:00:42 PM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: reaganaut
Cult says 666 is a good thing....

MORMONism says that eating the apple forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden was a good thing...

35 posted on 05/06/2012 6:27:14 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut
June 30, 2012.”

Thank GOD that we only have to hear about this idiot for less than 2 months!!

36 posted on 05/06/2012 6:28:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut

Absolute lunacy


37 posted on 05/06/2012 7:07:20 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Elsie

But if not...

Then we only have to wait until December the Twelfth.


38 posted on 05/06/2012 7:12:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut

Thanks for the ping!


39 posted on 05/06/2012 8:16:47 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: metmom; smvoice; boatbums

I’m only not been responding because I’ve been incredibly busy this weekend. With the sale today and changes I’ll probably be busy all week but please keep me in the loop. I’m going to try to keep up and read but won’t have much time to give thought to responses. Big day today for us for sure.


40 posted on 05/07/2012 3:58:53 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Lazamataz

SISTER WIVES: Coulter wants to know more.

Pro-Abortion Basturd (sic) Rmoney 2002 YouTube video

Willard McBush WANTS polygamy in the afterlife. It makes him no different from practicing it NOW.

41 posted on 05/07/2012 7:46:58 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Sounds like a FUN thread!


42 posted on 05/08/2012 4:32:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut

All I have to say:

*ding* CUCK-oo!*ding* CUCK-oo!*ding* CUCK-oo!*ding* CUCK-oo!


43 posted on 05/08/2012 4:38:57 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: reaganaut

This won’t end well.


44 posted on 05/08/2012 4:52:38 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: johngrace

-—When I saw it was like talking to her from the past.——

You know where she is now 8-)


45 posted on 05/08/2012 4:59:30 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: reaganaut

Never set a date.


46 posted on 05/08/2012 5:16:57 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: reaganaut

Never set a date.


47 posted on 05/08/2012 5:17:32 AM PDT by Sawdring
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
"You know where she is now 8-)"

Did you read the full account.

Like this:"records and pamphlets that my Mom(Rest In Peace) kept."

I know in Heaven. She died in a state of Grace.

She even prophesied about me. She was a Charismatic Catholic devotee to Divine Mercy prayers and Rosary prayers.

48 posted on 05/08/2012 1:48:28 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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