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Study: Over Half of South Jersey's Catholics Believe That Jesus Sinned
Christian Post ^ | 05/07/2012 | Jeff Schapiro

Posted on 05/07/2012 2:39:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Although the sinless life of Jesus Christ is a foundational tenet of the Christian faith, a study recently released by the Diocese of Camden found that 60 percent of practicing Catholics in southern New Jersey believe Jesus sinned during his time on Earth.

"The number of Catholics who have a very flawed, a seriously flawed, understanding of who Jesus is, that's troublesome," Bishop Joseph Galante of the Diocese of Camden said during a press conference, USA Today reports. "We've got to re-focus on how we teach and inform people. Jesus is the foundation of who we are as Catholics."

The study was commissioned by the diocese with the hope that the results would help it to better evangelize the communities it serves. The study was conducted by the Barna Group, a Ventura, Calif.-based research organization, which surveyed 612 adults living in the six New Jersey counties within the diocese.

Of those surveyed, 34 percent identified themselves as Catholic, but there are some discrepancies between what the church teaches and what some of them believe.

For example, the study showed that four out of ten of these Catholics disagree with the idea that sex should be reserved solely for marriage. While 38 percent of the total residents living within the Camden Diocese agree strongly with the idea that the Bible is "totally accurate in all of the principles it teaches," only 28 percent of Catholics in the diocese believe the same.

Another major issue Galante discussed during the press conference was the high number of Catholics in his diocese who simply don't attend Mass. One-third of lapsed Catholics said they have other priorities or are too busy to attend, while others said they just aren't interested in church (27 percent).

"What intrigued me in particular was the high number of people who don't attend Mass simply because they have other priorities," said Galante.

"One of the things we need to do is emphasize that worship time can also be part of family time as well. These findings are both troubling and a challenge as we begin to deepen our evangelization efforts."

Peter Feuerherd, director of communications for the Diocese of Camden, told The Christian Post on Monday that another thing that struck him from the study was the low percentage of Catholics who invite others to church. The study found that Catholics (33 percent) were half as likely as Protestants (66 percent) to invite someone to visit their church.

"I find that the 'ask' is so important, and Catholics are not in the habit of the 'ask.' Even our parishes are not in the habit of the ask," said Feuerherd.

He also indicated that a major issue all churches have to deal with is the tendency for people to want to always be productive in the American culture. Those who don't take time off from work on the weekends are honored in our society, he says, and other "distractions" like youth sporting events and various forms of entertainment can sometimes take away from church attendance.

"I think we have lost ... the idea that whatever that Sabbath day is, it is valuable. It's important that people have it," he said.

Other interesting findings from the study:

-Of the Catholics surveyed, 38 percent favor attending church only on holidays.

-Among all of the adults surveyed, 51 percent said churches are "too involved" in opposing abortion or same-sex marriage.

-Nine out of ten (89 percent) adults said they know about the clergy abuse scandals that have occurred within the Catholic Church. Among those who are aware of the scandals, 89 percent consider it a "major issue."

-Only 18 percent of Catholics strongly agree that it is their personal responsibility to share their religious beliefs with others, as compared to 40 percent of Protestants and 36 percent of people who believe in non-Christian faiths.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholics; jesus; sin; southjersey
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1 posted on 05/07/2012 2:39:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

bmflr


2 posted on 05/07/2012 2:42:32 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: DarthVader
Sinned? Don't know.

But he came close when he drove the money-changers from the Temple with a whip.

3 posted on 05/07/2012 2:45:27 PM PDT by eCSMaster (Conservative patriots, Rise up!)
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To: SeekAndFind
These popular movies/shows might have something to do with it...


4 posted on 05/07/2012 2:45:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

On the small-scale, a person’s religious knowledge is their own problem. Lots of lapsed Catholics, or “not practicing” Catholics, or cultural Catholics that don’t know anything by their own doing. Willful ignorance.

But, on the large-scale, with percentages like that ... sounds like there’s a church problem, too. You’ve got to teach people better than that. If just one of those people is in your church — you’ve got to do a better job.

SnakeDoc


5 posted on 05/07/2012 2:46:19 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jersey. Enough said.


6 posted on 05/07/2012 2:47:52 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: SeekAndFind

They’ve been reading too much Dan Brown.


7 posted on 05/07/2012 2:48:43 PM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: SeekAndFind

Splendid! The only way from here is UP!

After Mr. Obama is re-elected, we can get their eyes opened yet further and start the praying on our bloody knees.


8 posted on 05/07/2012 2:48:52 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: SeekAndFind

People may call themselves whatever they wish (i.e. Christian etc.) That don’t make it so. You’ve got to ask yourself if these people have ever read the Bible.


9 posted on 05/07/2012 2:50:46 PM PDT by old school
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To: jimmygrace
RE: They’ve been reading too much Dan Brown.

Or maybe LISTENING to it.

10 posted on 05/07/2012 2:51:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: old school

RE: You’ve got to ask yourself if these people have ever read the Bible.

And if they do... BELIEVE IT.


11 posted on 05/07/2012 2:52:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
As my fifth grade teacher, Mrs. Woltman, at St. Isidore's would say:

That's blasphemy!
12 posted on 05/07/2012 2:52:57 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: eCSMaster

Righteous anger is not a sin, especially when it comes from the One Who has sole rights to judging the wicked.


13 posted on 05/07/2012 2:53:41 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: SnakeDoctor
"You’ve got to teach people better than that."

Amen. Many in the Church recognize that the common denominator among the ex-Catholics, cafeteria Catholics, lapsed Catholics, CINOs and converts to other faiths and denominations is poor catechesis. Most know very little beyond the post Vatican II anecdotal and urban legend doctrines of the Church. Too often this is reinforced by the secular society and those who otherwise hate the Catholic Church. We are taking steps to correct this. Unfortunately, what has taken over 40 years to do cannot be undone over night.

Peace be to you.

14 posted on 05/07/2012 2:57:29 PM PDT by Natural Law (God, be merciful to me, the sinner!)
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To: eCSMaster

By definition, God cannot sin. Christians are supposed to believe that Jesus is God. QED.


15 posted on 05/07/2012 2:57:50 PM PDT by Argus
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To: SnakeDoctor
People have to absorb what they are taught. This phenomenon of spiritual sloth isn't unique to Catholicism. There are quite a few self proclaimed protestant "Bible believers" on this forum who have no idea what Scripture actually says, yet proudly wail that they are indeed Christians.

"And that servant who knew the will of his lord, and prepared not himself, and did not according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. And unto whomsoever much is given, of him much shall be required: and to whom they have committed much, of him they will demand the more." Luke 12:47-48

16 posted on 05/07/2012 3:00:29 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: jimmygrace

An acquaintance once told me that he lost his faith after watching the first Dan brown movie. I told him it was fiction. He said “Yeah, but still...”. He was offended when I suggested that his faith may not have been that solid to begin with.


17 posted on 05/07/2012 3:02:36 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: jimmygrace

An acquaintance once told me that he lost his faith after watching the first Dan brown movie. I told him it was fiction. He said “Yeah, but still...”. He was offended when I suggested that his faith may not have been that solid to begin with.


18 posted on 05/07/2012 3:02:54 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes and over half vote democrat. They would do well to check out a Bible believing Sunday School class.


19 posted on 05/07/2012 3:03:16 PM PDT by Maudeen (Proverbs 3:5-6)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Jesus sinned then we have no messiah and certainly no Salvation...


20 posted on 05/07/2012 3:03:46 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: skr

AMEN!!


21 posted on 05/07/2012 3:06:34 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: Maudeen

“They would do well to check out a Bible believing Sunday School class.”

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Or simply pay attention to the dogma and catechism of their OWN faith, which also is “bible believing”.


22 posted on 05/07/2012 3:06:48 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Blasphemous...


23 posted on 05/07/2012 3:06:48 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Fair enough — but this is pretty basic stuff. We’re not talking about complicated theology, or minutiae, or debated denominational differences here.

I’d venture that most Protestants on this forum that claim Christianity could accurately answer this question. Everybody’s wrong about something. You. Me. Everybody. So long as you’re right on the big picture, and improving on the details ... you’re probably OK. Perfect theology is not a requirement of the Christian faith (Hallelujah). But, we’re talking about a major, deal-breaking imperfection ... one of the true essentials of Christianity.

SnakeDoc


24 posted on 05/07/2012 3:07:26 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: jimmygrace

My thoughts exactly!! Too many are getting their theological views from Hollywood and Bestselling novels rather than reading the bestseller of all time!


25 posted on 05/07/2012 3:07:35 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: EyeGuy

I don’t disagree but I would venture to guess they are democrats first and Catholics second.


26 posted on 05/07/2012 3:12:39 PM PDT by Maudeen (Proverbs 3:5-6)
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To: Eagles6

This acquaintance of yours lost his faith after watching The Davinci Code, of which the premise of the movie was based upon the painting, “The Last Supper”, painted by an artist long after Christ’s birth, death, and resurection? Yeah, I guess maybe you’re right. His faith may not have been rock solid to begin with.


27 posted on 05/07/2012 3:14:18 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nope. Jesus Christ never sinned otherwise the Crucifixion and Resurrection would mean nothing


28 posted on 05/07/2012 3:14:53 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Study: Over Half of South Jersey's Catholics Believe That Jesus Sinned

And over half of NJ Catholics regularly go to tanning salons.

I think I found a link.

29 posted on 05/07/2012 3:17:32 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Argus
By definition, God cannot sin. Christians are supposed to believe that Jesus is God. QED.

Nice, and thank you.
30 posted on 05/07/2012 3:21:38 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: Revolting cat!

I’m a Jersey Catholic.

How does God sin?

How does any Christian believe that?

Jesus was tempted, but it’s not a sin to be tempted. Most of us probably dwell too long on some sinful desires even if we don’t yield in the flesh so I can see how people think there’s a sort of continuum.


31 posted on 05/07/2012 3:22:19 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: SoldierDad
How much different is this than the people who watch the MSM Morning and Evening “News” shows as well as Nursing Home Pap on most of MSMerdre?
32 posted on 05/07/2012 3:23:45 PM PDT by BilLies ( The Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , PBS etc., hate your Loyal American guts!))
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d be interested in seeing if these Catholics who believe Jesus sinned believe Mary to be sinless.


33 posted on 05/07/2012 3:25:17 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SeekAndFind

They need to follow the advice of St. Augustine concerning the Bible: pick up and read.


34 posted on 05/07/2012 3:25:45 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: BilLies

six of one, half a dozen of the other.


35 posted on 05/07/2012 3:31:56 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: SeekAndFind

These people are CINO’s. There is nothing religious about them.


36 posted on 05/07/2012 3:33:03 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: heartwood
Jesus was tempted, but it’s not a sin to be tempted. Most of us probably dwell too long on some sinful desires even if we don’t yield in the flesh so I can see how people think there’s a sort of continuum.

Yes. It's not so strange that people believe this. There's a lot of uncertainty about whether being tempted counts as a sin in itself or one has to act on the temptation.

37 posted on 05/07/2012 3:41:56 PM PDT by x
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To: SeekAndFind

I would bet these that believe He sinned are almost all Chreaster Christians (at church Christmas and Easter only).


38 posted on 05/07/2012 3:42:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: eCSMaster

Christ could not have sinned and then been accepted by the Father as an acceptable substitute for sinners on the cross. The Old Testament makes it exceedingly clear that the sacrifice had to be perfect to be accepted. From eternity past Christ agreed to drink the wrath that should have been poured out on me for eternity. He drank the cup of God’s wrath for all of His sheep down to the very dregs.

What a Savior!


39 posted on 05/07/2012 3:46:37 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder what percent of Catholics think Mary sinned....

Betchca it’s less than 50 %


40 posted on 05/07/2012 3:48:00 PM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I was confirmed into the Church this Easter. I have accepted and believe that Christ is the Son of God and is free of sin, and died for my (many)sins so I may be welcomed into Heaven. I suspect these misguided souls need to spend more time at Mass and less time watching HBO. I will add them to my prayers.


41 posted on 05/07/2012 3:49:11 PM PDT by W.Lee (No compromise)
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Diocese of Camden Community Study 2012
42 posted on 05/07/2012 3:51:55 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: .45 Long Colt
Christ could not have sinned and then been accepted by the Father as an acceptable substitute for sinners on the cross. The Old Testament makes it exceedingly clear that the sacrifice had to be perfect to be accepted. From eternity past Christ agreed to drink the wrath that should have been poured out on me for eternity. He drank the cup of God’s wrath for all of His sheep down to the very dregs.

More succinctly:

Hebrews 4:15
For we do not have a high priest who cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like we are, yet without sin.
43 posted on 05/07/2012 3:54:18 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: W.Lee

Welcome home W. Lee! God bless you!


44 posted on 05/07/2012 3:57:57 PM PDT by simonjo
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To: eCSMaster

Pretty tame compared to what He did to Saddam.


45 posted on 05/07/2012 4:18:31 PM PDT by DManA
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To: x

You can be tempted internally or externally.

I might be tempted to eat a candy bar because I’m hungry and I smelled one. I guess if I entertained the possibility in my mind I sinned.

or

I might be tempted by John with a candy bar but not dismiss him out of hand. If said no and didn’t entertain the possibility in my mind I didn’t sin.

I think Jesus’s temptations were the latter.


46 posted on 05/07/2012 4:25:22 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Um, let’s pretend eating a candy bar is a sin for the sake of my example.


47 posted on 05/07/2012 4:26:39 PM PDT by DManA
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To: aruanan

Indeed.

We read in Psalm 75:8, “For in the hand of the LORD there is a cup, and the wine is red; it is full of mixture; and he poureth out of the same: but the dregs thereof, all the wicked of the earth shall wring them out, and drink them.”


48 posted on 05/07/2012 4:27:04 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: old school

Catholics are not known to read The Bible.


49 posted on 05/07/2012 4:30:33 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Seriously? Seriously? the people call themselves Christian? Seriously? Lord help them.


50 posted on 05/07/2012 4:39:12 PM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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