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The Catholic World Report ^ | 8 May 2012 | Carl E. Olson

Posted on 05/08/2012 7:14:12 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham

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To: fml
"You keyboard jockeys know best."

Perhaps you should read Humana Vitae, the Encyclical issued on this subject in 1968, predating any "keyboard jockeys". It accurately predicted the personal and societal damage that whould be brought about by birth control and abortion.

Humanae Vitae

61 posted on 05/10/2012 11:22:27 AM PDT by Natural Law (God, be merciful to me, the sinner!)
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To: fml
(1) Every one of those deaths of mothers and the babies could have been prevented by NFP.

(2) Health advocates who work with the poor recognize NFP as a particularly good method for the very low income because it is not dependent on regular pharmaceutical purchases, has no physical side effrects, entails no medical risks, fosters more male/female communication and cooperation, and cannot be used coercively by the state.

(3) Read and learn. Empowering the Poor with NFP (Link)

62 posted on 05/10/2012 11:44:04 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Evidence, and reasonable inference from evidence.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It’s about options. You clearly have issues with giving people options


63 posted on 05/10/2012 11:49:34 AM PDT by fml
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To: Natural Law
No one's discussion abortion

She is notpushing her faith on others, she is giving woman options. Did is miss the part where she wanted to force it on anyone?

64 posted on 05/10/2012 11:52:10 AM PDT by fml
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To: fml
I clearly oppose unnatural sex. Contracepted sex is unnatural sex: sex that is turned away from its normal link to fertility, family-formation, and faithfulness. It involves health problems for women, it is the enabling technology for promiscuity, and it undermines marriage as an institution. It leads to more, not less, nonmarital childbearing. It leads to more, not less, sexually-transmitted disease. In every country and culture where contraceptive availability increases, abortion skyrockets and the marriage rate collapses. Contraceptives are more available in the USA than they ever have been in history, and 1/2 of the children born to women uner 30 are born out of wedlock. We're seeing the total disappearance of marriage in totally contracepted cultures.

Margaret Sanger said 100 years ago that contraception would solve all these problems, and instead it has enormously escalated them.

You clearly have issues with evidence.

65 posted on 05/10/2012 1:09:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Evidence, and reasonable inference from evidence.)
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To: fml
"No one's discussion abortion."

Anyone who believes that discussions of birth control do not include methods that prevent the embedding of a fertilized egg or the use of abortifacient drugs is either ignorant or dishonest.

If you think that Catholics and other Christians must remain silent in the public square about our religious beliefs and values you are wrong. We have a right and an obligation to speak out to the same degree as any other opinion or advocacy.

We need to remember that tolerance is not a Christian virtue. Charity, justice, mercy, prudence, honesty are Christian virtues and actions that support them are to be expected and even desirable. In any diverse community, tolerance may be an important working principle, but it's never an end itself. For a Catholic or like minded Protestant tolerating grave evil within a society is itself a form of serious evil and any process that destroys a human life as the intended consequence of the action is a grave evil.

Democratic pluralism does not mean that Catholics should be quiet in public about serious moral issues because of some misguided sense of good manners or a subservience of religious principle to secularism. A healthy democracy requires vigorous moral debate to survive. Real pluralism demands that people of strong beliefs advance their convictions in the public square, peacefully, legally and respectfully, but energetically and without embarrassment. Anything less is bad citizenship and a form of theft from the public conversation. Those who would suggest or demand that we be silent are at the very least suspect for a number of reasons.

Peace be with you.

66 posted on 05/10/2012 1:11:00 PM PDT by Natural Law (God, be merciful to me, the sinner!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

•God is Sacred. In the total and non-contingent sense.

•Human Life is Sacred. ...as a direct consequence, since it is made by the Divine Creator (in the case of the human soul, each one DIRECTLY and INDIVIDUALLY created) in the image and likeness of God.

• Sex is Sacred. Yes. Human sexual union is sacred, because sex is where life comes from. That means, in cooperation with God. God is the Primary Cause, the parent’s sexual union is the Secondary Cause.

These are truths of the Judeo-Christian faith and realities of the Universe. Nothing’s more basic than that.


That’s about the size of it. Nothing left to say.


67 posted on 05/10/2012 5:46:02 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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Within an hour of returning to her hotel, she received a message from some of those nuns. “It was fantastic,” she says, her eyes misting for a moment. “They said, ‘We’re all for you. We know this is a difficult issue to speak on, but we absolutely believe that you’re living under Catholic values.’ And it was just so heartening.”


Why do nuns need birth control?


68 posted on 05/10/2012 6:00:28 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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"Why do nuns need birth control"?

Answer: they don't. But they (the liberal "post-Catholic" nuns) are extranrdinaily bonded to secularf feminism. Also, erhaps because they have never USED it, they have no idea how unnatural, unhealthy, and anti-woman birth control really is.


69 posted on 05/13/2012 9:03:45 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious." George Orwell)
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