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Bishop: Episcopal Church must change
Timesunion.com ^ | 5/14/2012 | Kenneth C. Crowe II

Posted on 05/14/2012 3:39:30 PM PDT by Morgana

COLONIE — The Episcopal Church must embrace change and diversity if it is to move forward, the presiding bishop of the 2.4 million member church said Friday.

"We need to discover ways to engage in the outside community," Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori said, in urging the 125 delegates attending the Province II Synod of the Episcopal Church to recognize that while many believe the church is an unchanging rock, it too slowly evolves.

"'We are beginning to discover a way forward into a new chapter in the church's history," Jefferts Schori said. "If we are going to save the life of the church, we are going to have to lose it."

The Episcopal Church draws strength from its growing immigrant population who know the value of community, Jefferts Schori said. Even though this is labeled a time of connectivity via the Internet, she said, there is a spiritual hunger that needs to be filled

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TOPICS: General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: episcopal; homosexualagenda

1 posted on 05/14/2012 3:39:44 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Considering the source, I would guess that, at the bottom of the Bishop’s ideas, is an embrace of homosexuality.


2 posted on 05/14/2012 3:43:21 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Morgana
Wrong a zillion times over. These churches are falling apart because of moving away from their traditions.
3 posted on 05/14/2012 3:44:41 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Morgana

Absolutely agreed. The Episcopal Church must change. Getting rid of Bishop Schori would be a good start.


4 posted on 05/14/2012 3:48:15 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus
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To: Morgana
The Episcopal Church must embrace change and diversity if it is to move forward, the presiding bishop of the 2.4 million member church said . . .

Embrace change and diversity? Today's Episcopal Church has gone way beyond "embrace" of those qualities into the realm of "shag" in positions unknown even in the Kama Sutra. As a result, that "2.4 million" figure is a pipe dream; the official tally today is well below 2 million . . . and falling like a rock.

5 posted on 05/14/2012 3:52:03 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Morgana

the fag church wants to keep digging its way out of the hole it’s in.


6 posted on 05/14/2012 3:52:17 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: Morgana

If that’s true, then shouldn’t the Episcopal church have been exploding with growth since they started ordaining females? Instead, it’s been in steady decline. If one is liberal, I fail to see why he would want to give up his Sunday mornings to go hear what he could already hear from the media anyway.


7 posted on 05/14/2012 3:56:28 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Morgana

You know why Episcopalians can’t play chess, don’t you?


8 posted on 05/14/2012 4:02:21 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Olog-hai; wagglebee; little jeremiah

“These churches are falling apart because of moving away from their traditions.”

These churches are falling apart because of moving away from the Bible.

There fixed it!


9 posted on 05/14/2012 4:02:59 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Morgana

I belong to an Episcopal parish. An Episcopal priest, a legal immigrant born in Ecquador, has approached us to start a congregation at our church serving the local Hispanics. We think it’s a fine idea. They will conduct services according to the rites of the church in Spanish. No one’s going to be checking immigration status at the parish door, or at the altar rail. Our main concern is that they involve themselves in the life of the parish. We are not interested in “renting” space to them and having them be separate. If they involve themselves in the life of the parish then they will be welcome. IF they hold themselves separate then they will have to leave.


10 posted on 05/14/2012 4:02:59 PM PDT by RonF
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To: Morgana
And that is why I tell anybody who asks, I used to be an episcopalian.
11 posted on 05/14/2012 4:09:54 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Morgana

Well yeah; that was supposed to be synonymous. Not always, though.


12 posted on 05/14/2012 4:11:13 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: tbpiper

Because they can’t tell the difference between a bishop and a queen.


13 posted on 05/14/2012 4:11:52 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Morgana

Episcopalians used to be one of the largest Christian denominations in the United States, and were a huge influence in America when this country was founded (almost all the founding fathers had ties to the Church of England) Now, they’re a shadow of their former selves and less than 2% of the population. So much for churches drawing more followers by being “less strict” and embracing socially liberal ideas.


14 posted on 05/14/2012 4:20:42 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: Olog-hai

“Wrong a zillion times over. These churches are falling apart because of moving away from their traditions.”
_______________________________________________

You are right.
I was the senior warden of a 150+ year old Episcopal church in Tennessee.
I left the church by 1990 when the gays started taking over
and turned it into a temple of homosexuality and leftist thought.
What use to be the finest denomination in the USA has been
destroyed.

Every fundamental institution in the USA is under siege.
The MSM is Communist. Public education is Communist.
I do not know so much about entertainment/TV since I left the country in 2004.
I do get Rush and Savage by internet, and now have FOX news, and, of course FR :)


15 posted on 05/14/2012 4:26:03 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: pfflier

I hear that a lot.


16 posted on 05/14/2012 4:39:06 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: WashingtonSource

Bingo


17 posted on 05/14/2012 4:40:48 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Morgana
Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori

Sounds to me like they already tried that...so hows that all working out I wonder...
18 posted on 05/14/2012 4:41:20 PM PDT by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: tbpiper

“You know why Episcopalians can’t play chess, don’t you?”

They have no king on their side of the board.


19 posted on 05/14/2012 5:09:50 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Morgana

Is the Bishop saying he needs more than just white people in the pews at Episcopal churches?


20 posted on 05/14/2012 5:19:22 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Morgana
"If we are going to save the life of the church, we are going to have to lose it."

Sir the Life was lost already.

1Co 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
1Co 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: and gained again

Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

21 posted on 05/14/2012 5:23:12 PM PDT by the_daug
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To: Morgana

Yeah, keep it up, Bishop. sarc/off

You really haven’t a clue as to why so many, like me, left the Episcopal Church since the 1970;s, do you?


22 posted on 05/14/2012 5:34:49 PM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: BillyBoy
Episcopalians used to be one of the largest Christian denominations in the United States

The Episcopal Church was once jocularly referred to as "the Republican party at prayer."

23 posted on 05/14/2012 7:36:21 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Morgana
Come join our church, we have less sins than yours. /s
24 posted on 05/14/2012 8:17:54 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner)
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To: Morgana; RoosterRedux

the ECUSA must change MORE? how much more? having orgies in the ‘church’?


25 posted on 05/14/2012 8:58:50 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: RonF

what is going on is that a lot of Hispanics will join that church thinking it is a Catholic church. (some Lutheran churches do this too).

It’s called truth in advertising.


26 posted on 05/15/2012 1:36:41 AM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: Morgana

Does that mean lesbian and homosexual pratices as normal?


27 posted on 05/15/2012 8:24:29 AM PDT by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: Olog-hai

“These churches are falling apart because of moving away from their traditions.”

That’s right; when the core is thrown by the wayside for the flavor of the month, the activists desert as soon as they meet resistance on anything. My town is filled with former Protestant churches that are now Hispanic evangelical churchs; I don’t know where the Protestants go (they are still around). One of the area churches has a cemetery that pre-dates the American Revolution; I don’t imagine it means much to the new owners (it certainly doesn’t seem to).


28 posted on 05/15/2012 2:15:19 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: LadyDoc

I can’t speak for other parishes, but we’ll be making it very clear that we are not a Roman Catholic parish.


29 posted on 05/23/2012 1:10:18 PM PDT by RonF
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To: RonF

good.

With all the bad christianity and liberalism in some Catholic areas, I don’t mind “poaching” like I once did (better a good protestant christian than a liberal Catholic pseudo christian).


30 posted on 05/24/2012 5:37:03 AM PDT by LadyDoc
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