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hours agoUnderground gay group emerges, shaking evangelical Christian college
MSN ^ | 5/24/12 | John Boxly

Posted on 05/24/2012 12:15:57 PM PDT by Glacier Honey

LA MIRADA, Calif. -- On the same day President Obama became the first U.S. president to come out in support of same-sex marriage, a group of students announced the presence of the "Biola Queer Underground" at this small evangelical university, touching off a highly-charged debate about Christianity and homosexuality.

The group launched a website and posted flyers around the Biola University campus May 9 with the following message: "We want to bring to light the presence of the LGBTQ community at Biola. Despite what some may assume, there are Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals, Transgender, and Queers at Biola. We are Biola's students, alumni, employees, and fellow followers of Christ. We want to be treated with equality and respected as another facet of Biola's diversity."

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1 posted on 05/24/2012 12:15:59 PM PDT by Glacier Honey
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To: Glacier Honey

“and fellow followers of Christ.”

Well, if they ever had my support, they lost it right there.


2 posted on 05/24/2012 12:18:20 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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To: Glacier Honey
Despite what some may assume, there are Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals, Transgender, and Queers at Biola. We are Biola's students, alumni, employees, and fellow followers of Christ.

Irony is lost on them.
3 posted on 05/24/2012 12:18:36 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Glacier Honey

To clarify: I think that you can’t call yourself a Christ follower and directly and openly flout the clear mandates of scripture regarding homosexuality.


4 posted on 05/24/2012 12:19:40 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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To: Glacier Honey
Make all the students, faculty, and administrators sign a pledge.

Any admission or evidence of homosexuality would be grounds for immediate dismissal.

5 posted on 05/24/2012 12:21:35 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2
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To: Glacier Honey

Who are they? Did they give their names? They didn’t come out if they can’t be identified.


6 posted on 05/24/2012 12:21:57 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: Glacier Honey

Let’s all thank the dear leader for making this possible...


7 posted on 05/24/2012 12:21:56 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: Glacier Honey

LGBTQ? Isn’t the “Q” for queer redundant?


8 posted on 05/24/2012 12:24:31 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Eccl 10:2

Although I would wager that the “underground” is much smaller than they would lead you to believe.


9 posted on 05/24/2012 12:24:55 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2
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To: Glacier Honey
All of Christ's followers are sinners, but those sinners who are unrepentant and defiant do not qualify. Sorry boys, or whatever.
10 posted on 05/24/2012 12:26:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Eccl 10:2

agree


11 posted on 05/24/2012 12:26:53 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Glacier Honey

re: “Chris Grace, vice president for student development at Biola, said the school would like to engage in conversation with the underground group but has been stymied by the members’ anonymity. “We really are at a disadvantage here because we don’t know who these people are,” Grace said, adding that the university would “love and welcome a conversation with them and that’s what we are hoping for.”

I think the group is “anonymous” because they possibly aren’t even students - or it’s a group of one or two. I suppose anyone could establish a website and say they are students from any university they want - especially if one does not identify who one is.


12 posted on 05/24/2012 12:27:52 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Eccl 10:2
My advice to my evangelical brethren in Christ:

Do ask. Do tell. Do expel.

Like all the rest of us sinners, those who engage in homosexual sin are welcome to REPENT.

13 posted on 05/24/2012 12:31:04 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Glacier Honey
This is funny.  King Barry is sued by a growing number of groups because he's ignoring the First Amendment but that's not worthy of coverage.  Perverts put out a PR fluff sheet, though, and it gets coverage.

It's obvious people who let their sex organs rule their lives are no longer capable of even understanding the definition of the word, "Christian". That goes for the adulterous and promiscuous scum who are heterosexual just as much as it does for the first class perverts at Biola who want to pretend they're Christian while at the same time defying what Scripture clearly teaches.

14 posted on 05/24/2012 12:36:15 PM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: Glacier Honey

“Despite what some may assume, there are Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals, Transgender, and Queers at Biola. We are Biola’s students, alumni, employees, and fellow followers of Christ.”

In so many passages and in so many ways, Jesus told people that they must obey Him in order to follow Him. Those who refuse to CANNOT enter into the Kingdom of Heaven (Matthew 7:21, 23).

While I find sodomy and libertine sexual immorality to be revolting, Jesus would have the same words to say to people who think nothing of living together without being married.

Nobody who insists on practicing sexual immorality will be offered the free gift of eternal life. Jesus’s priceless gift cannot be earned by works but it is conditional.

“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.” Matthew 7:21


15 posted on 05/24/2012 12:38:08 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: ichabod1

>> Did they give their names?

Maybe it isn’t “they”. Maybe there’s just one. If they don’t identify, how can you be sure?

Heck, maybe whoever made the website isn’t even *associated* with Biola.


16 posted on 05/24/2012 12:47:01 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: forgotten man

“Q” is for “questioning”. It’s for people who haven’t made up their mind.


17 posted on 05/24/2012 1:00:08 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Glacier Honey

There is no way Biola College will accept this. They are up Biola Creek without a paddle.


18 posted on 05/24/2012 1:01:37 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The best diplomat I know is a fully-activated phaser bank. - Montgomery Scott)
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To: married21

They speciifcally list gays and queers. What’s up with that?


19 posted on 05/24/2012 1:02:19 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Glacier Honey

In case people don’t know, “Biola” originally stood for “Bible Institute of Los Angeles.”


20 posted on 05/24/2012 1:02:32 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Glacier Honey

The administration needs to compose something of an epistle for all students, making a few things very clear.

1) That this college only offers an education based on the understandings of the faith within the evangelical sect of Christianity. It does not offer such an education with respect to other beliefs of other Christian sects, nor the beliefs of other religions, nor the beliefs of those who do not embrace religion at all.

2) The understandings of the faith within the evangelical sect of Christianity are well understood, are and should be practiced by all within the sect, and variance from these understandings can in some cases be tolerated, in other cases, cannot. Those that cannot are core principles within the faith, and those individuals that reject these principles exclude themselves from membership in the faith.

3) The administration understands that no one among the students, faculty, or administration have been or are perfect; but we do expect that all at least become aware of their own imperfections and make an effort to refrain from behavior that is rejected as sinful within our faith. That they do not just try to justify or rationalize their failings, seek excuses for them, ask for tolerance with the hope that these failings can be continued, or worst of all, to seek out others with intent to encourage them to fail as well.

4) Those among us who have held up their failings with pride and demanded recognition from us should seek education elsewhere. This school is not for them, as they have stated they reject what is being taught here. They will never be comfortable with us, nor we with them. And as by their actions they express no desire to change their ways, we also reserve the right not to change to accommodate them and their behavior.

If they want to be honest with themselves and others, then they should leave here. If they are to do so, we wish them well, and hope that someday they may find it within themselves to seek redemption and lead better lives.

If they instead decide to continue to conceal their activities, while demanding that others must honor and respect such behaviors, they just harm themselves.


21 posted on 05/24/2012 1:20:26 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: forgotten man

Actually the “Q” is meant to pick up all other sexual perversions such as pedophilia, necrophilia, bestiality, etc.


22 posted on 05/24/2012 1:25:51 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: Glacier Honey

Biola is one of the preeminent Christian colleges in America. Extremely high academic standards and committment to the Word of God. One or two anonymous students living a depraved lifestyle does not condemn the whole institution.I believe Biola would discipline these students in accord with their doctrinal statement.


23 posted on 05/24/2012 1:33:27 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: Glacier Honey

Biola is one of the preeminent Christian colleges in America. Extremely high academic standards and commitment to the Word of God. One or two anonymous students living a depraved lifestyle does not condemn the whole institution.I believe Biola would discipline these students in accord with their doctrinal statement.


24 posted on 05/24/2012 1:33:58 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: Glacier Honey
We are Biola's students, alumni, employees, and fellow followers of the anti-Christ.

There. Fixed it.

25 posted on 05/24/2012 1:36:58 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Glacier Honey

(Despite what some may assume, there are Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals, Transgender, and Queers at Biola.)
WELL YES. THERE ARE SINNERS EVERYWHERE.
We are Biola’s students, alumni, employees, and fellow followers of Christ.
NO YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING CHRIST. IN PROMOTING PERVERSIONS YOU PROMOTE SIN AND THAT IS NOT FOLLOWING CHRIST..


26 posted on 05/24/2012 1:42:57 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

re: “Chris Grace, vice president for student development at Biola, said the school would like to engage in conversation with the underground group but has been stymied by the members’ anonymity. “We really are at a disadvantage here because we don’t know who these people are,

OH GIVE ME A BREAK! I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT LESS THEN A WEEK ON CAMPUS AND I COULD POINT OUT THESE PEOPLE...


27 posted on 05/24/2012 1:52:43 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Eccl 10:2
Why stop there? Why not a pledge in support of all Biblical admonitions?

There is absolutely no reason someone having premarital sex or not keeping a kosher kitchen should be allowed to stay in any capacity!

28 posted on 05/24/2012 1:57:36 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

I would believe a homo group operating at Fuller in Pasadena. Biola, however, is another case entirely. Any homo roaming Biola would be quite out of place indeed.


29 posted on 05/24/2012 1:59:20 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Write in Chuck Norris for POTUS and tell the power brokers to FOAD.)
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To: Glacier Honey

No hate — just the facts it is impossible for anyone to be a
Christian and a homosexual at the same time. One cannot embrace the homosexual deception and the doctrines of Jesus of Nazareth .One must either be a Christian —or a Reprobate.Their “underground” behavior and their “fear” suggest they cannot be of Christ,but against Christ.


30 posted on 05/24/2012 3:21:01 PM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

I think the group is “anonymous” because they possibly aren’t even students - or it’s a group of one or two.


That is probably true! The gay activists lie all the time.

One method they use to talk gay porn to audiences, including young children, is have a question and answer session from the class or group. They submit the questions and answer them. When caught they claim they were only answering student questions. Lie, lie, lie.


31 posted on 05/24/2012 4:27:10 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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