The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator, that everything was created BY Him.
The lds-org is a thief of the Name and the Truth of Jesus Christ.
Posted on 05/24/2012 12:19:11 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
Brian Johnston was desperate. The pressures of raising six children on one accountant salary were crushing, but worse was that he was starting to doubt the entire reason he and his wife had created a big family with a stay-at-home mom in the first place: Their Mormonism.
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The official church historian Marlin Jenson made news last year when he said that the loss of members in the last five or 10 years has been greater than perhaps any period since Mormonism was founded in 1830.
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For Mormons grappling with doubts, the potential spiritual consequences can appear frightening. Mormon scripture teaches that the lowest status in the afterlife, called Outer Darkness, is reserved for people who know Jesus and then become unbelievers. At times, the church can appear to respond harshly as well, tales about which surface on stayLDS.com, which receives about 700 visitors a day.
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When relatives found out four years ago that he was venting about the church online, they called his church and he was removed from leadership, he says, for expressing doubts about the literal truth of Mormonism. He lost his ”temple recommend” — a credential showing you are a good, orthodox Mormon, which means he can’t attend weddings and baptisms even of relatives or close friends, because those rituals happen in the temple and only Mormons in good standing are allowed in.
He sounds simultaneously heartbroken and seething with anger. “I’m pretty well a second-rate Mormon; I kind of sit in the back,” he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
My wife and I have and value Mormon friends but have always had severe reservations about the church itself and many of the patently absurd beliefs. However, I think that we are likely to be bent over with nausea by the savage attracts on Mormons that are coming from Obama and friends. Eventually the country will either have a Marxist dictatorship or a long term civil war. When you are at the point where you like Muslims a whole lot more tha progressives . . .
More mormon bashing.
As a Catholic who constantly has to deal with people who claim to be Catholics, and who yet go out of their way to flip the bird to basic Church teachings (most of these being politicians), I have to stand up for the Mormon Church’s right to “temple decommit” or excommunicate or whatever they want to call it those members who don’t agree with the doctrine.
It’s all about truth in advertising. We all have the right to believe what we wish, or to not believe it. But you can’t claim to represent the beliefs of a church with an official doctrine.
It appears that some are expecting the candidacy of a mormon to bring about a surrender to the propaganda arm of the mormon church. There are already indications from such sites as the American Spectator that mormonism is "untouchable".
Ain't gonna happen with the Obama campaign, and ain't gonna happen on FR.
Mitt's position as a candidate doesn't change the heretical and unChristian aspects of mormonism...just brings about long overdue light illustrating them.
Mitt is not the liberal he is in spite of his mormonism...he is what he is because of it.
Actually, the article has some errors.
For example, losing a temple recommend does not keep you from attending baptisms of friends or relatives. These do not occur in the temples, but in the local meeting houses and all are invited. It is the ordinance of “baptism for the dead”, which is discussed in Peter in the New Testament, that occurs in the temple and that is where someone stands in as proxy for a person who has died and a baptism occurs for them which those individuals can then elect to accept or reject up in the spirit world as they await judgement.
Same thing for weddings. Any orthadox wedding that is not a temple wedding, which are performed there for time and all eternity, can be attended if the couple elect to be married in a LDS Chapel instead of an LDS Temple.
Anyhow, those are a couple of inconsistancies that should be set straight.
Losing a temple recommend because you, in essence, are turning against the Church and rejecting its basic teachings (like the validity of the restoration through Jospeh Smith, or the validity of the Book of Mormon) means that you cannot attend temple ceremonies like the ones I described, but not that you can’t attend the same types of ceremonies performed outside the temple, or attend regular meetings of the church in its chapels each week.
Is an interesting sight detailing the experiences of people that have been in the church of joseph smith
The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator, that everything was created BY Him.
The lds-org is a thief of the Name and the Truth of Jesus Christ.
“It is the ordinance of “baptism for the dead”, which is discussed in Peter in the New Testament”
Then why was it first discovered by the Mormons?
No temple recommend, no witnessing temple weddings of relatives or friends...period.
“baptism for the dead”, which MAY be discussed in Peter (actually not encouraged) in the New Testament is not Christian belief.
"Any orthadox "(orthodox?") wedding that is not a temple wedding, which are performed there for time and all eternity, can be attended if the couple elect to be married in a LDS Chapel instead of an LDS Temple"....the chapel is off limits for these weddings and they are relegated to the 'cultural hall' and held under the basketball hoop. There are strict regulations on what can be done and said in these non-temple weddings and they are highly discouraged by mormon leaders.
Mormon theology as it is today is mild in comparison with that of James Cone, Islamist clerics, Jim Jones or David Koresh. We’ve a follower of Cone in the White Hous now.
When relatives found out four years ago that he was venting about the church online, they called his church and he was removed from leadership, he says, for expressing doubts about the literal truth of Mormonism. He lost his ”temple recommend” — a credential showing you are a good, orthodox Mormon, which means he can’t attend weddings and baptisms even of relatives or close friends, because those rituals happen in the temple and only Mormons in good standing are allowed in.
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THe same thing happens to people who “vent about Obama online” and “doubt the literal truth of Obamaism”
Ya lose yer freedoms and ya get arrested...
Both religions are somewhat equal in importance and validity..
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More like Mormonism and it should be, it's a cult - deceiving people straight to hell. If you love people, you should welcome Mormonism being exposed for the cult it is and tell mormons The Truth.
No one is buying this campaign to defeat Romney thru his mormonism. It won't work.
I see that as no reason to accept a follower of Joseph Smith into the White House.
I'll bet millions of people will read this fair and insightful WashPo piece and realize what a horror the Mormon Church is, which will lead them to realize what a horror Mitt Romney would be as president and that will send them screaming into the fleshy arms of Virgil Goode.
Good job! You're making a difference.
It is the ordinance of “baptism for the dead”, which is discussed in Peter in the New Testament, that occurs in the temple and that is where someone stands in as proxy for a person who has died and a baptism occurs for them which those individuals can then elect to accept or reject up in the spirit world as they await judgement.
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Dead dunking is blasphemeous and unBiblical..
It denies the Blood of the LORD Jesus Christ on the Cross for our salvation...
Its something the pagans did but not the Christians..
Neither Peter nor Paul ever said that dead dunking was an “ordinance” of Christianity...
Both said once you are dead you are dead..
and then comes the judgement...
Its too late then...
If Mormons really believed that they could just get saved AFTER they died they wouldnt give one more sacrificial penny to the Mormon business, they would pay their bills, get out of debt and spend Sundays with their families doing something enjoyable and beneficial...
and the wife would find she no longer feels the need for all that Prozac...
So happy to have your approval Deb.
Jeff the idea is for Mormons to have a “temple wedding”
Like Willard Romney and Ann Davies had, banning her family from attending ...
Oh yes the Mormons are SOOOOOOOO much for families...
None of the 15% of Mormons who are temple Mormons would want anything less...
Mormons dont believe they are married unless they have the pagan rituals and “sealings” for marriage in the Mormon afterlife including the procreation of further children on their afterlife planet etc of the temple with their temple clothes on green Adams fig leaf apron and all..
Losing a temple recommend because you, in essence, are turning against the Church and rejecting its basic teachings (like the validity of the restoration through Jospeh Smith, or the validity of the Book of Mormon)
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Jeff explain to the lurkers what happens to people who do this ...what happens after they die ...
Start with me as a Blood bought Born again Bible believing Christian...
What do you as a Mormon believe will happen to me...
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