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Serpent-handling pastor profiled earlier in Washington Post dies from rattlesnake bite
Washington post ^ | 5/30/2012 | Julia Duin

Posted on 05/30/2012 6:26:18 PM PDT by Morgana

Mack Wolford, a flamboyant Pentecostal pastor from West Virginia whose serpent-handling talents were profiled last November in The Washington Post Magazine , hoped the outdoor service he had planned for Sunday at an isolated state park would be a “homecoming like the old days,” full of folks speaking in tongues, handling snakes and having a “great time.” But it was not the sort of homecoming he foresaw.

Instead, Wolford, who turned 44 the previous day, was bitten by a rattlesnake he owned for years. He died late Sunday.

Mark Randall “Mack” Wolford was known all over Appalachia as a daring man of conviction. He believed that the Bible mandates that Christians handle serpents to test their faith in God — and that, if they are bitten, they trust in God alone to heal them.

He and other adherents cited Mark 16:17-18 as the reason for their practice: “And these signs will follow those who believe: in My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

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TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; General Discusssion; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: church; napl; snake; snakehandler; westvirginia
Okay who has the snake ping?
1 posted on 05/30/2012 6:26:25 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Slings and Arrows; WVNan; Chode; GeronL; JoeProBono

oh yea ping


2 posted on 05/30/2012 6:27:52 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Morgana
Okay who has the snake ping?

Maybe the same guy who has the snakes-on-a-plane ping?

3 posted on 05/30/2012 6:30:01 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

Yea who is that?


4 posted on 05/30/2012 6:31:30 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Morgana

I don’t think we are to tempt God. If we happen to be outside and get bitten, that’s one thing. Playing with snakes is another. Christ would not show out to prove a point; he refused to tempt God by flinging himself off the mountain in a dramatic display.


5 posted on 05/30/2012 6:33:02 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Twinkie

agreed. and isn’t that the lesson we must take from this guy’s faith? he went too far and was caught in a deception.


6 posted on 05/30/2012 6:38:57 PM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: Twinkie
Exactly the verse I was thinking of.

Matthew 4

1Then was Jesus led up of the spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. 2And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward hungry. 3And when the tempter came to him, he said, If you be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. 4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.

5Then the devil took him up into the holy city, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple,

6And said to him, If you be the Son of God, cast yourself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning you: and in their hands they shall bear you up, lest at any time you dash your foot against a stone.

7Jesus said to him, It is written again, You shall not tempt the Lord your God.

7 posted on 05/30/2012 6:39:19 PM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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To: Morgana

I don’t know - just a wild guess.


8 posted on 05/30/2012 6:40:31 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Twinkie

I don’t know if it is tempting God or just taking the Bible verse too far. Where does one draw the line? Some get so wrapped up in their faith that they do go off the deep end.


9 posted on 05/30/2012 6:47:39 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Twinkie

Ecclesiastes 10:8 - if a serpent bites before being charmed, there is no profit for the charmer - trumped Mark 16:9-20 (which may not even be genuine as far as the biblical text is concerned - there is doubt). Too many of God’s people have a hard time understanding that not every verse is for them. This was truly tragic, and will have a negative impact on his followers as well.


10 posted on 05/30/2012 6:48:25 PM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman
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To: Morgana

I have never understood the snake handlers.....yeah I know what Mark 16:18 says, but every Bible I have read notes that this part of Mark is not in some of the early manuscripts and is thus suspect. I guess I’d pick up a snake if God told me to.....but I’d make darn well sure it was Him speaking first.


11 posted on 05/30/2012 6:48:35 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Hope springs eternal - maybe the Bucs will break .500 this year)
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To: Morgana
oh well...
12 posted on 05/30/2012 7:12:36 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Yea I know..


13 posted on 05/30/2012 7:14:49 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Morgana

Here’s a clue...

Wolford was 15 when he saw his father die at age 39 of a rattlesnake bite in almost exactly the same circumstances.


14 posted on 05/30/2012 7:19:25 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Morgana

Here’s a clue...

Wolford was 15 when he saw his father die at age 39 of a rattlesnake bite in almost exactly the same circumstances.


15 posted on 05/30/2012 7:19:50 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Morgana

. I hate snakes!

16 posted on 05/30/2012 7:22:13 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Twinkie
I don’t think we are to tempt God. If we happen to be outside and get bitten, that’s one thing. Playing with snakes is another. Christ would not show out to prove a point; he refused to tempt God by flinging himself off the mountain in a dramatic display.

True and even Moses only picked up the serpent AFTER GOD told him too.

The late Wendy Bagwell expressed his feelings on the matter quite straight forward.

Preacher to Wendy "Brother Wendy you mean to tell me that if The Lord told you to pick up the serpent you wouldn't do it?"
Wendy to the Preacher: "Yes Preacher I surely would but He didn't and I aint".

17 posted on 05/30/2012 7:35:46 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Twinkie

I have heard of snake handlers, but never of poison drinkers.

Arsenic you could work up a tolerance for, but cyanide? Destroying Angel mushrooms?

So if these folks don’t drink poison, why do they still think they have to handle snakes?


18 posted on 05/30/2012 7:38:28 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: Morgana; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...
G-D (to DARWIN): "This one's yours."


19 posted on 05/30/2012 7:40:07 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Morgana

I think I’ll interpret the Bible myself. After all, what could go wrong?


20 posted on 05/30/2012 7:43:56 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: Morgana

Church ain’t over until the snakes are back in the box.


21 posted on 05/30/2012 7:44:34 PM PDT by Southern Partisan
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To: kcvl

“Wolford was 15 when he saw his father die at age 39 of a rattlesnake bite in almost exactly the same circumstances.”

You know, some of the most valuable lessons I learned from my father involved what NOT to do...


22 posted on 05/30/2012 7:52:50 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: heartwood
Arsenic you could work up a tolerance for, but cyanide? Destroying Angel mushrooms?

I was under the impression that arsenic builds up in the body, like other heavy metals.
23 posted on 05/30/2012 8:04:04 PM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Southern Partisan
> Church ain’t over until the snakes are back in the box.

When I decide it's time for a new tagline, that's it! What a proverb!!

24 posted on 05/30/2012 8:06:44 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: cva66snipe
The link below is to a video by the late Wendy Bagwell. He was a Gospel Music singer and comedian/story teller. He tells the story of where he and his two singers visit a snake handling service. The video is about 9 minutes long. Here come the rattlesnakes
25 posted on 05/30/2012 8:08:39 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Slings and Arrows; Morgana

26 posted on 05/30/2012 8:22:42 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Morgana; Jeremiah Jr
Mack Wolford, a flamboyant Pentecostal pastor from West Virginia whose serpent-handling talents were...

...overrated

27 posted on 05/30/2012 8:29:28 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Daffynition

Somebody’s got to add chlorine to the gene pool.


28 posted on 05/30/2012 8:36:27 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

29 posted on 05/30/2012 8:45:44 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Daffynition

That’s what happens when you don’t give your kids enough attention.


30 posted on 05/30/2012 8:47:30 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Morgana

Here come the rattlesnakes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wne0Q3ZnjU&feature=related


31 posted on 05/30/2012 8:48:33 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: cva66snipe

Ah, Bro. Wendy Bagwell. Now that was comedy. “Jist look for a door.” “I already did an’ there ain’t one.”


32 posted on 05/30/2012 9:09:08 PM PDT by WVNan ("Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston)
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To: ThirstyMan

It was not faith at all...just ego problems like most of the world.


33 posted on 05/30/2012 9:13:36 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Morgana

I just don’t have that kind of faith which is why I am a Stapler Handler.

Pray for America


34 posted on 05/30/2012 9:26:24 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: WVNan
Ah, Bro. Wendy Bagwell. Now that was comedy. “Jist look for a door.” “I already did an’ there ain’t one.”

"Reckon where do they want one?" LOL

35 posted on 05/30/2012 9:32:31 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Morgana
Some get so wrapped up in their faith that they do go off the deep end.

Everybody's deep end is a little different. It depends how tall you are. Makes life interesting.

36 posted on 05/30/2012 10:04:27 PM PDT by AirForceVet1988 ("As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough.")
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.
I guess I’d pick up a snake if God told me to.....but I’d make darn well sure it was Him speaking first.

How would you know for sure, one way or the other ?

37 posted on 05/30/2012 10:10:46 PM PDT by AirForceVet1988 ("As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough.")
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

So many of these people seem to be almost in bondage to this sort of thing. It seems like in a way that they’re locked into and pressured by their peers and spiritual authorities into something that doesn’t serve them or the Lord all that well. - “Decently and in order” is a good rule of thumb. Of course, I’m not the judge - Christ is - and for that I’m thankful.


38 posted on 05/31/2012 1:48:28 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: AirForceVet1988; Some Fat Guy in L.A.
I guess I’d pick up a snake if God told me to.....but I’d make darn well sure it was Him speaking first.

How would you know for sure, one way or the other ?



Why Ah'll tell ye how, it's the day mah Gawd strikes me dumb --

Uh oh...
39 posted on 05/31/2012 7:48:07 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: Southern Partisan

Lol


40 posted on 05/31/2012 8:03:33 AM PDT by wardaddy (the GOP are cowards)
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To: wardaddy

In one of Dolly Parton’s books, she tells the story of when her daddy used to take her and some of her brothers and sisters to sing at the mountain churches. - Once, he took them to a new one back in the holler. They were up front singing and the preacher brought out the snakes. Dolly’s father bellowed from the back of the church, “Get those damned snakes away from my kids!!” - and he ran up front, scooped his kids up, hauled them to the car and got them out of there fast.


41 posted on 05/31/2012 8:47:53 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Jeff Chandler

“I think I’ll interpret the Bible myself. After all, what could go wrong?”

Then why bother to read it at all? The original New Testament manuscripts were written in everyday forms of the Greek and Aramaic languages that could be understood by the common man. There are English translations that are quite easy to understand. The Gospel was not meant to be doled out and interpreted by a “gatekeeper”.


42 posted on 05/31/2012 1:13:55 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasRepublic

Don’t tell me, tell Mack Wolford.


43 posted on 05/31/2012 1:20:35 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: TexasRepublic
"The original New Testament manuscripts were written in everyday forms of the Greek and Aramaic languages that could be understood by the common man."

The truth is that for First Century Jews and Christians literacy in Greek was rare and in Aramaic even rarer as it was not a literary language. Literacy among women was unheard of.

"...I have also taken a great deal of pains to obtain the learning of the Greeks, and understand the elements of the Greek language, although I have so long accustomed myself to speak our own tongue, that I cannot pronounce Greek with sufficient exactness; for our nation does not encourage those that learn the languages of many nations...." Titus Flavius Josephus — Antiquities of the Jews 20,11.2

“writing [in first-century A.D. Palestine] was in the hands of an élite of trained specialists, and reading required an advanced education available only to a few.” - W.H. Kelber

44 posted on 05/31/2012 3:17:19 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Morgana

Snakes are a bitch - always ................................................................................................................... FRegards


45 posted on 05/31/2012 6:20:56 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: Ellendra

Habitual low-dose use of arsenic can lead to a tolerance for a higher dose - and in the past people used arsenic cosmetically, to make the skin pale and translucent.

I think Agatha Christie used arsenic tolerance in one of her mysteries.


46 posted on 05/31/2012 7:50:29 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: Twinkie; dixiechick2000

That is precisely what happened to my wife in Statesville TN at a Missionary Baptist Church revival back in the early 70s when she was a kid. Her daddy was very stern and a deacon at a church in Murfreesboro where they lived but he was from the “hills and hollows” and was a 3 war combat vet including 2 tours in Indochina.
Same thing...preacher brought out the boxes of snakes.

Carl (RIP) stood up and challenged the preacher hard in front of everyone .

Told him that tempting God was vanity and foolish and the work of Satan.

They left....never went back...it was the church he grew up in..


47 posted on 06/01/2012 10:07:41 AM PDT by wardaddy (the GOP are cowards)
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To: wardaddy; Twinkie

I never did understand the reason behind snake handling.

Like your wife’s daddy, it seems like temptation, to me.


48 posted on 06/02/2012 12:05:15 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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