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To: MHGinTN

I knew someone would say people choose to go to Hell.

That is asinine. I don’t intend to insult, I simply mean...

OK, let me say this.

Lets say you have a deluded kid who really wants to fight in a war and thinks it will be just a lot of fun. Going in to the war he is ignorant of its horror. After 4 years of seeing peoples bodies torn to shreds before him, smelling the carnage, hearing the bombs dropping, living in terror, he no longer is ignorant. Now he clearly understands the horror or war. If he could go back to being that young kid but with knowledge a foresight, he would avoid the war because he clearly understands the terror of it in advance.

Same for hell, if it exists. If people went to hell and suffered first hand, then came back to earth for a 2nd chance, there isn’t a single person who would “choose hell”.

In fact, isn’t that the conclusion of every one of these “I’ve been to hell” stories. There certainly isn’t a single story where the person said they came back from hell and just can’t wait to go back to hell again. No, once they “experience” hell, they will do anything to avoid it.

So in the end, nobody can possibly “choose hell”. At worst, people are ignorant and don’t know not to, or how to, avoid hell. Nobody is going to “choose” hell.

How could it possibly be that anyone sane would choose eternal suffering and separation from God. It isn’t possible for anyone to get up one morning and say “gee, I would just love to spend the next 1000 billion years, just for openers, in daily torment, massive horrific physical pain, blistering fire, stunning grief and remorse, and knowing I caused it myself.”

Right. As if that is humanly possible. There is not one sane person on earth who would consciously choose to experience that unfathomable torment. It just isn’t possible. You either have to be insane or ignorant.

I don’t see Christ condemning the insane. As to the ignorant, I pray that he gives them a 2nd chance to redeem themselves, and experiencing hell, I can’t believe there would be a sane person in the history of man who would not leap at the chance to reform.


30 posted on 06/09/2012 8:40:23 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Are you familiar with Jesus telling His disciples the story of the richman and Lazarus?


32 posted on 06/09/2012 8:44:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

His Plan requires perfect justice and perfect righteousness.

In order to understand the reason for eternal torment in His Plan, it must be the proper context, not simply in our concepts of righteousness in our own minds independent of perfect justice.

Regarding those who choose anything other than Christ, it begins with arrogance and degenerates into not only hating Him and His Plan, but further degenerating into actively attacking anything in His Plan.


63 posted on 06/10/2012 2:24:58 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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