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SSPX: Vatican II and Novus Ordo Still Pose “Doctrinal Difficulties”
Catholic World Report ^ | 6/14/12 | Catherine Harmon

Posted on 06/15/2012 7:32:59 AM PDT by marshmallow

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To: nickcarraway

Nothing in my comments even suggests that I don’t applaud and support B16’s efforts to bring Fellay back into the fold.

Why would you be so dishonest and uncharitable and suggest otherwise?


41 posted on 06/20/2012 12:40:47 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Christ Jesus Victor, Ruler, Lord and Redeemer!)
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To: nickcarraway

If anything is harmful to B16 it is painting him as an impotent leader - far more harmful than me noting that Fellay is being disrespectful and far less than humble in his dealings with B16.


42 posted on 06/20/2012 12:46:36 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Christ Jesus Victor, Ruler, Lord and Redeemer!)
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If anything is harmful to B16 it is YOUR painting him as an impotent leader in your post 21 - far more harmful than me noting that Fellay is being disrespectful and far less than humble in his dealings with B16.


43 posted on 06/20/2012 12:47:21 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Christ Jesus Victor, Ruler, Lord and Redeemer!)
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To: Notwithstanding

He’s the Pope. Of course he’s an important leader.


44 posted on 06/20/2012 1:26:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Notwithstanding
Why would you be so dishonest and uncharitable and suggest otherwise?

Didn't you read my post? The Pope is doing this of his own personal initiative. All due charity would suggest to me I shouldn't insult the parties to his negotiation. I don't know why that wouldn't be clear to you. So your insults are actually against the Pope, who you pretend to support.



Imagine this: You are to be a facilitator to negotiations between Israel and Palestinians. You walk in an tell the Palestinians there is no such thing as Palestinians and insult them in other ways. You think that would help? Even if whatever you said was true. Imagine if a president, say Ronald Reagan, had asked you to do it, as part of his efforts. I think, in that case, you would have insulted President Reagan, but doing that.

45 posted on 06/20/2012 1:41:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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The pope has not asked anyone to pretend that Fellay has not harmed and is not harming the Church.


46 posted on 06/20/2012 3:34:17 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Christ Jesus Victor, Ruler, Lord and Redeemer!)
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I am praying that both men understand that the issue is not merely, not even primarily of obedience, but rather of seeing the events of Vatican II and especially after it, in the Catholic light: in communion with the Sacred Tradition of the Catholic Church.

Hence I repeat my advice to His Grace: no time to go wobbly.


47 posted on 06/20/2012 5:11:13 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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“The pope has not asked anyone to pretend that Fellay has not harmed and is not harming the Church.”

I tend to think that you have formed your opinion on the basis of a one-sided version of the facts.


48 posted on 06/20/2012 5:21:06 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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