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Do You Know how to be SAVED?
DestinedForHeaven.com ^ | 2010 | DestinedforHeaven.com

Posted on 06/16/2012 1:20:04 AM PDT by destinedforheaven

Most of will say... YES - of course! If we're a Christian, we want to be very ready to share the good news. If you're not then this is the most important thing you can find out. Either way, I encourage you to read below...

Most of us think that if we stay on the straight and narrow we just might make it though those pearly gates. Sadly most people don’t know exactly how to be saved. The majority of people overall believe they will be in heaven when they die someday because they strive to be a good person. We are all born into this world with a sin nature and our life needs to be changed. (Romans 3:23) No amount of good works will allow you to spend eternity with God unless you give your heart to Him. (Ephesians 2:8-9) You must believe that God sent His son Jesus to pay the penalty for your sins. John 3:16. Jesus Christ loved you so much that He suffered unimaginable cruelty, mockery, humiliation, and death on the cross. He rose from the dead on the 3rd day. He subjected Himself willingly for you and me so we could have eternal life. God the Father wants a relationship with you. You don’t need to understand it all right this moment. Will you put your faith in Him and Him alone? Please do not put this off. If you feel that God is calling you to come to Him then these two prayers below could be a good example of how to talk/pray to Him... (please proceed using link to full article - as this is an excerpt)

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TOPICS: Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: bloggersandpersonal; jesussalvation; pimpmyblog; salvation; vanity; vanityallisvanity; yopios

1 posted on 06/16/2012 1:20:10 AM PDT by destinedforheaven
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To: destinedforheaven

Go to a bank and open an account?


2 posted on 06/16/2012 2:10:50 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: BigCinBigD

The blood of Christ. Certainly not us keeping the law. The grace of God.


3 posted on 06/16/2012 3:05:10 AM PDT by Twinkie (Isaiah 53)
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To: Twinkie

Well, if you put it that way...


4 posted on 06/16/2012 3:23:54 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: Twinkie
Amen, the grace of God by Jesus Christ that saves sinners who come to Him and believe and confess how that He was crucified for our sins and rose again the third day for our justification is just incredible and amazing. Imputed righteousness atoned by His blood at Calvary is so incredible that I can scarce comprehend this grace that saves sinners.
5 posted on 06/16/2012 3:47:13 AM PDT by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God and Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: Twinkie

1Thess. 1:2-4
2 We give thanks to God always for you all, making mention of you in our prayers, 3 remembering without ceasing your work of faith, labor of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ in the sight of our God and Father, 4 knowing, beloved brethren, your election by God.

James 2:23-25
23 “And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?”

1John 2:3-5
3 “Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.”

Romans 2:12-14
12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; 14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves,

James 1:21-23
21 Therefore lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness, and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls.

22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror;

Romans 3:30-31
“30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.”

John 12:46-48
46 I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness. 47 And if anyone hears My words and does not believe I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. 48 He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him—the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.

Romans 1:15-17
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”

James 2:21-26
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.”[a] And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?

26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.


6 posted on 06/16/2012 4:22:17 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: destinedforheaven

Salvation is by grace and grace alone.

Ephesians 2:8-9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

“Regeneration v. The Idolatry of Decisional ‘Evangelism’”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shxQcczYuAA


7 posted on 06/16/2012 4:54:33 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: swampfox101
I'm guessing your post was to try to say that good works and following the commandments is necessary to be saved.

If we could do that Jesus needn't have died for our sins and you would do well to check out the audience and the context of the passages.

If you have another reason for the passages, please let me know - I'm always open to learning more about my God and my Savior.

8 posted on 06/16/2012 4:56:07 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Twinkie

“The blood of Christ. Certainly not us keeping the law. The grace of God.”

Amen! It’s all grace.

Romans 3:20 “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”

Romans 3:28 “Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.”


9 posted on 06/16/2012 5:02:00 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: destinedforheaven
By reading your posts on FR?
10 posted on 06/16/2012 5:44:23 AM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: destinedforheaven
Most of us think that if we stay on the straight and narrow we just might make it though those pearly gates.

Dear God I hope not. We are save by Grace, through Faith, for Works. I'd be really shocked if most of us thought we were saved BY works.

11 posted on 06/16/2012 6:10:07 AM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: destinedforheaven; Religion Moderator
In looking at your posting history it appears that you are using this site as a means to generate hits on your blog.

Since you are the author of this article, then you don't need to excerpt it.

I believe that it is against forum rules to post vanity threads and then excerpt them to require Freepers to visit your blog to get the rest of the article.

Either post the whole article, or don't post any of it.

Are you here to interact and discuss your musings with fellow freepers, or are you here just to generate hits on your blog?

12 posted on 06/16/2012 6:20:08 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Virgil Goode! Because everyone else is Bad!)
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To: destinedforheaven

How do we know we are saved?

Our regenerated human spirit and life with Him.

We know Him through faith in Christ.

He has provided this as a method for us to know Him and have fellowship with Him.

It isn’t merely a soulish or physical perception. It is spiritual life.

Sometimes, for some believers there may also be other manifestations of salvation, but lacking a particular spiritual gift or a particular experience doesn’t imply lack of life as each believer fits into God’s Plan with a unique set of gifts and part of His Plan.

Likewise, do not confuse His Presence and Sovereignty,..His Will to act as evidence of your salvation. Rather, through faith in Him, receive what He provides for our salvation and He is sure and just to forgive past sins, freely giving those who believe everlasting life.


13 posted on 06/16/2012 6:49:10 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: destinedforheaven

What is a “sin nature?”


14 posted on 06/16/2012 7:20:59 AM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: P-Marlowe; destinedforheaven
I was thinking along similar lines last night, but deleted it.

A plan of salvation, just a couple of prayers to read, only one web-link away?

Why hold back? Afraid of Freepers? Not part of the marketing plan? Which of the suggested ministries to go visit offers remuneration for traffic guided their way? Web pages take time, effort and some money to maintain, ok, we know that, but get real with us here. Be genuine, be a human being, or leave us alone.

15 posted on 06/16/2012 7:31:58 AM PDT by BlueDragon (Will Rodgers would be aghast at things today, but he might like his road if they'd waive the toll)
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To: All; destinedforheaven
What does the bible "say" ?

Acts 2:37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”

38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off —for all whom the Lord our God will call.”

40 With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.

The Fellowship of the Believers

42 They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. 43 Everyone was filled with awe at the many wonders and signs performed by the apostles. 44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. 46 Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47 praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.

16 posted on 06/16/2012 10:12:10 AM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: swampfox101

“So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.” Matthew 7:12


17 posted on 06/17/2012 4:02:25 AM PDT by Twinkie (Isaiah 53)
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To: daisy mae for the usa

Also known as the Old Sin Nature.

The anthropology of man was perfect in body, soul, and spirit with the first man, Adam, and also with the second Adam, our Lord Christ Jesus. Eve was made from Adam prior to the fall also perfect in body, soul, and spirit.

All other humans throughout human history inherited from Adam after the fall a separation of the spirit from the living God. This was not per God’s Plan and was due to Adam’s sin in the Garden of Eden.

Consequently, every other human being throughout human history is born with an “old sin nature”.

The old sin nature is not to be confused with propensity to perform good or evil, but instead focuses on our relationship with God.

When a human exercises faith through Christ, it is recognized as something righteous by God, who is now free through grace to regenerate our human spirit, and in this Church Age He immediately indwells the new believer in the regenerated human spirit.

The old sin nature remains in us, even as believers, influencing both our body and soul. Through faith in Christ, while we are in fellowship with Him, God then slowly begins to sanctify us, slowly changing our scarred souls and improving our heart, as we grow in Him.


18 posted on 06/17/2012 4:23:40 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Twinkie

John 17:17
17 “Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.”


19 posted on 06/17/2012 5:12:12 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: Cvengr

(”All other humans throughout human history inherited from Adam after the fall a separation of the spirit from the living God. This was not per God’s Plan and was due to Adam’s sin in the Garden of Eden.”)

Ezekiel 18:20
20 “The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.”

James 1:14-15
14 “But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. 15 Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.”

Duet. 1:39
39 “Moreover your little ones and your children, who you say will be victims, who today have no knowledge of good and evil, they shall go in there; to them I will give it, and they shall possess it.”

Matt. 18:3
3 “and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven”

Col. 3:25
25 But he who does wrong will be repaid for what he has done, and sthere is no partiality.

1John 3:4
4” Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. “

Romans 7:9
9 “I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died.”

Ezekiel 18:4
4 “Behold, all souls are Mine;
The soul of the father
As well as the soul of the son is Mine;
The soul who sins shall die.”


20 posted on 06/17/2012 5:34:01 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: trebb

Matthew 4:4
4 “But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God


21 posted on 06/17/2012 6:02:36 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: .45 Long Colt

James 2:24
24 “You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.”

Mark 16:15-17
15” And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues;”

Luke 13:2-3
2 “And Jesus answered and said to them, “Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things? 3 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”

Matt. 10:32-33
32 “Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven. 33 But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven”

John 6:39-41
39 “This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Romans 10:17
17 “So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”

Matt. 4:4
4 “But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’”


22 posted on 06/17/2012 6:27:17 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: swampfox101

I love Scripture, absolutely love it, but since your just quoting random disconnected verses I’m not sure what you are getting at. If you are using these texts to support the proposition that a man’s works play some part in justification you are guilty of eisegesis. You don’t fully understand the sin nature of man, the absolute holiness of God, the work of Christ, propitiation, or justification. I’m not questioning your salvation. That’s between you and the Lord. I’m simply suggesting you dive in and study more, perhaps from a different perspective. Scripture must be read in context and in light of other Scripture.

I’m sure you know natural man is “dead in trespasses and sins.” Isaiah says, “But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.” Every aspect of man is tainted by sin to the extent that even his best works are sinful. You’ve never prayed a prayer that didn’t have enough sin in it to send you to hell—and neither have I. Because of our common grandpa Adam, we are sinners by nature. Every aspect of man’s nature wears that taint of sin. What can a sinful man do for himself to remove that taint of sin? The clear answer from Scripture is NOTHING.

We also know that “the wages of sin is death.” If you try to offer your sin tainted acts your wages in exchange for justification, the only payment you will receive is death because you have nothing perfect and holy to offer. The Lord taught us this clearly early in Genesis. Cain learned the hard way that God will not accept our works. The only way to satisfy God is through the shedding of blood. The unknown writer of Hebrews said that “without shedding of blood is no remission.” There can be no remission (pardon, forgiveness, pardon) of sins with the shedding of blood. It was His perfectly lived life and his substitionary death on the cross for His sheep that satisfied the demands of God’s justice. Christ was the heaven sent “lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” “Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by His own blood He . . obtained eternal redemption for us” John 1:29 “John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God.” Your filthy works can add nothing to His sacrifice on that tree. Why would you even want to add anything to the only thing that satisfies God the Father. The shed of blood of Christ is the only thing that He will accept. And we know He did accept it because Christ rose again on the third day. God demanded blood and Christ gave His. What mercy!

Paul told us there is a remnant chosen by grace. Romans 11:5-6 “So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.” Grace is no longer grace when you add works of the law. Payment for debt owed can never be considered gracious.

The one and the only way any man is acceptable in the sight of the Lord is by having Christ’s perfect righteousness imputed to his account. When He sees me He no longer sees a man dead in trespasses in sins. He sees me clothed in the pure white robes of Christ’s righteousness. He has separated my sin from me as far as the east is from the west. Salvation is from the beginning to the end of the Lord and it’s only found IN CHRIST. Look to Christ and Christ alone and be saved. Isaiah 45:22 “Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.” How do we walk? We walk by FAITH.

“For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.”—Romans 10:4.

Please don’t read anything into my words. Don’t come away with the idea that I don’t believe in works or that I am saying works are unimportant. I’m saying this: salvation is by grace through faith ALONE. But if there be no evidence of works, then regeneration has not taken place. Today we often hear preachers begging people to let Jesus come into their heart, but what we really need is for Him to give us a new heart. And if He has graciously done that for us, a by-product of that new heart will be good works. Those working their way to God will meet the same fate as Cain.

I recommend the words of Spurgeon in “The Agreement of Salvation by Grace with Walking in Good Works”

http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/2210.htm

or “Christ the End of the Law”
http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/1325.htm


23 posted on 06/17/2012 8:50:09 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

( “If you are using these texts to support the proposition that a man’s works play some part in justification you are guilty of eisegesis.” )

Romans 2:13
13 “for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified;”

2 Tim. 4:3-4
3 “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.”

(Scripture must be read in context and in light of other Scripture.)

Matt. 4:4
“But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’”

(Because of our common grandpa Adam, we are sinners by nature.)

Ezekiel 18:20
“The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.”

(Cain learned the hard way that God will not accept our works.)

Gen.4:4
4 Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat. And the Lord respected Abel and his offering,

(Your filthy works can add nothing to His sacrifice on that tree.)

1John 2:3-5
3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.

(Paul told us there is a remnant chosen by grace. Romans 11:5-6)

“For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.”

Titus 2:11-12
“For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, 12 teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age,”

Romans 5:18-19
18 “Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. 19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous”

2Peter 3:9
“ 9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us,[a] not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.”

(The one and the only way any man is acceptable in the sight of the Lord is by having Christ’s perfect righteousness imputed to his account.)

Romans 12:1-2
“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.”

1Peter 2:4-5
“4 Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, 5 you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.”

(When He sees me He no longer sees a man dead in trespasses in sins. He sees me clothed in the pure white robes of Christ’s righteousness.)

1John 1:6-7
“6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.”

Romans 6:3-4
“Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

(. I’m saying this: salvation is by grace through faith ALONE. )

18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

John 14:23-24
““If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24 He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me.”

Rev. 14:11-13
12 “Here is the patience of the saints; here are those[a] who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
13 Then I heard a voice from heaven saying to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.’”“Yes,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them.”

Rev. 22:14
“14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.”

1John 3:24
“Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.”


24 posted on 06/17/2012 4:38:29 PM PDT by swampfox101
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To: swampfox101

While you work your way to heaven I’ll be praising the Lord for his mercy and grace.


25 posted on 06/17/2012 7:37:37 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: swampfox101

Many of the verses presented are provided in Scripture to understand the consequences of post-salvation sin for the believer.


26 posted on 06/17/2012 8:19:59 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: swampfox101

A cow doesn’t moo to become a cow. A cow moos because it -is- a cow.


27 posted on 06/17/2012 8:24:15 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: .45 Long Colt

Gal. 1-6-10
6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

John 17:17
17 Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.

Mark 7:6-8
6 He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:‘This people honors Me with their lips But their heart is far from Me.7 And in vain they worship Me,Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’[a]8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men[b] —the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.”10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.

John 10:37-39
37 If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; 38 but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe[a] that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.”


28 posted on 06/18/2012 4:15:11 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: Cvengr

2 Timothy 2:15
15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

2 Timothy 3:16
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,


29 posted on 06/18/2012 4:19:56 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: Twinkie

John 8:41-43
42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. 43 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word

1 John 17:15-16
15 “If you love Me, keep[b] My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever—

1 John 3:18-20
18 My little children, let us not love in word or in tongue, but in deed and in truth. 19 And by this we know[a] that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before Him. 20 For if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things.

1 John 2:4-6
4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. 6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.


30 posted on 06/18/2012 4:31:04 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: Ramius

Gal. 3:1
O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified?


31 posted on 06/18/2012 4:34:40 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: swampfox101

Cutting and pasting is one thing. Understanding, it seems, is another.


32 posted on 06/18/2012 5:50:04 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius

“Cutting and pasting is one thing. Understanding, it seems, is another.”

Amen.....!


33 posted on 06/18/2012 6:33:29 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: swampfox101

MATTHEW 7:12 - JESUS CHRIST said that, too.

Now, if you choose to complicate it, you’re free to do so - as am I to simplify it.


34 posted on 06/18/2012 6:51:29 AM PDT by Twinkie (Isaiah 53)
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To: swampfox101

MATTHEW 7:12 - JESUS CHRIST said that, too.

Now, if you choose to complicate it, you’re free to do so - as am I to simplify it.


35 posted on 06/18/2012 6:54:10 AM PDT by Twinkie (Isaiah 53)
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To: Twinkie

Amen.....!


36 posted on 06/18/2012 11:25:29 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: swampfox101

I don’t think you have even read what you are posting because some of these verses do not in any way support your thesis. For instance, John 10:37-39 says nothing about how we are justified. In fact, it supports my point, namely that works are an indication that justification has already taken place. Works are an indication that a man is one of Christ’s sheep.

If you believe your works play a part in your salvation then for you Christ merely made it possible for you to save yourself. Good luck on your lifelong self-reclamation project.

In contrast, I know that Christ is the author and finisher of my faith. He didn’t merely make it possible for me to save myself through my own works, He actually saved me. I’m resting in Christ, not working my way to Him. That said, I’m in the early stages of preparations for the foreign mission field. I’m not doing that to add to Christ’s work on the cross in order to be saved. His work is complete and it was perfect. I’m doing it because I’m already saved and I know that there are other sheep from all tongues, tribes and people who need the gospel.


37 posted on 06/18/2012 5:22:48 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: destinedforheaven
By grace along through faith, anything else is heresy! Not by works of righteousness or of the law, God does not want anyone boasting about what they did for their own salvation. Eph. 2:1-10

I'm not sure about you guys but I was not there before the foundstion of the world when he pick me. Eph. 1:4-8
38 posted on 06/18/2012 5:52:25 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: .45 Long Colt

“46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say? 47 Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like:”


39 posted on 06/19/2012 3:51:33 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: .45 Long Colt

Luke 6:46

“46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say? 47 Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like:”

Sorry bout that.


40 posted on 06/19/2012 3:55:29 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: swampfox101

Please stop. That verse has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with how men are justified.

You are conflating the results of justification with justification itself. A man who has been regenerated by God will have good works, but those good works are the result of what God already did for him. Good works never cannot save any man.

While you work your way to heaven, I’m resting in Christ. I hope you aren’t instructing others in the faith.


41 posted on 06/19/2012 6:43:04 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

“Please stop. That verse has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with how men are justified.”

James 2:23-24
23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

Luke 6:46-49
46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say? 47 Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was founded on the rock.[h] 49 But he who heard and did nothing is like a man who built a house on the earth without a foundation, against which the stream beat vehemently; and immediately it fell.[i] And the ruin of that house was great.”


42 posted on 06/19/2012 8:34:24 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: swampfox101

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall No flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law (is) knowledge of sin (Romans 3:20)


43 posted on 06/19/2012 8:54:26 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

Agreed....! The “old law” Paul was talking about here could justify no one, that’s why that covenant was made obselete and replaced with a “new law” or covenant.

Jer. 31:30-32
31“Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them,[a] says the Lord.

Matt. 26:27-29
27 Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 For this is My blood of the new[a] covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. 29 But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.”

2 Cor. 3:6-7
6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit;[a] for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Heb.8:12-13
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds[a] I will remember no more.”[b]13 In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Hebrews 12:23-25
23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.Hear the Heavenly Voice
25 See that you do not refuse Him who speaks. For if they did not escape who refused Him who spoke on earth, much more shall we not escape if we turn away from Him who speaks from heaven,


44 posted on 06/19/2012 9:40:40 AM PDT by swampfox101
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To: ForAmerica

Amen! Salvation is all of grace from beginning to end. Those who plan on adding their works to His finished work understand neither the holiness of God or their own sinfulness.

This thread demonstrates the plague of biblical ignorance and the paucity of gospel preaching rampant in modern America.


45 posted on 06/19/2012 9:55:04 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt
This thread demonstrates the plague of biblical ignorance and the paucity of gospel preaching rampant in modern America

And it's a shame too!

Salvation is all of grace from beginning to end. Those who plan on adding their works to His finished work understand neither the holiness of God or their own sinfulness.

Man will not understand grace and salvation until they realize and understand that they are hopelessly and helplessly lost, in need of a savior! We also want to think that we had something to do with our salvation, God calls it boasting!
46 posted on 06/19/2012 5:12:05 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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