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Love of JESUS CHRIST?? Think about how we are living and showing the love of JESUS CHRIST daily.
Faith | GOD-inspired

Posted on 06/19/2012 8:08:42 AM PDT by jesus4life

Who has the right to judge?

TOPICS: Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: god; holyspirit; jesus; love
To all,

Today is a little long. HOLY SPIRIT hit me with these thoughts after a prayer this morning in seeking a passage of the day for all.

Think of those GOD loves.

Think. Is it GOD that does not want us all or is it our evil hearts that wants some saved and not all?? Is it us that wants to be better than someone, so we put GOD in the equation to solidify what we believe??

Think today if you truly love the LORD, your neighbor, and your enemies. If you do, would you still speak in condemnation and on or in judgement of others?? Especially when you were once in or still in the sins you judge and condemn.

Jesus, who performed no sin could judge, yet did least of it. But could rightfully judge. As a judge who does not perform any sin, is a righteous judge. No human can say this.

We point out every little sin. Jesus generalized and in the face of a sinner forgave.

Those HE pointed out the rich man who came to HIM, Pharisees, Jews, and more.... HE still showed love by telling them how they could come to HIS way. This love is a must for believers to show all people.

YES, some can think of what JESUS did with the money changers and say, yes, even HE got mad and turned over tables ( but HE didn't hit anyone). But, as soon as we can this, can say we don't sin?? No we can't.

If we did not sin, then, it would be easier to understand why JESUS did what HE did. None of us can imagine our lives of never doing something that hurt someone, lying to someone, or doing something hypocritical; because we all have done this at some point in our lives.

JESUS CHRIST who never did these things, definitely had the right for anger/frutstration when HE showed it. But we, who sin, have lots of it towards other sinners.

We point to hell or heaven and only Jesus knows the destination.

We say we love, but all we have is negative comments for one another who don't believe on what we believe ( and sometimes even for those who do believe what we believe).

Following HIS LOVE, may we ask ourselves daily what this means; HIS LOVE.


Please pray the LORD's PRAYER and please read:

ACTS 10:44-48

44 While Peter was still speaking the Holy Spirit came down on all the listeners.

45 Jewish believers who had accompanied Peter were all astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit should be poured out on gentiles too,

46 since they could hear them speaking strange languages and proclaiming the greatness of God. Peter himself then said,

47 'Could anyone refuse the water of baptism to these people, now they have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?'

48 He then gave orders for them to be baptised in the name of Jesus Christ. Afterwards they begged him to stay on for some days. GOD BLESS US ALL,


1 posted on 06/19/2012 8:08:51 AM PDT by jesus4life
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To: jesus4life

One little type O there. But, I am sure you all can read past it. :)

Truly love to all of you here and around the world ( believers or not). GOD can change all, when HE wants. I pray for the change.

Love the LORD with all your hearts, love your neighbor as yourself, and love your enemies.



2 posted on 06/19/2012 8:13:15 AM PDT by jesus4life
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To: jesus4life

Telling an alcoholic that he is screwing up and is headed for rock bottom is not judging him - it is looking out for him. In fact, failure to tell him that he is screwing up because “who are we to judge” shows a lack of true love for the person. Many people confuse the concept of judging who is and isn’t righteous (which only God gets to do) with the concept of reminding people of the Word of God (which we should all do).

3 posted on 06/19/2012 8:43:09 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

We can judge the actions of others but not their heart.

4 posted on 06/19/2012 9:15:53 AM PDT by Singermom
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To: fr_freak

What is actually “ Rock bottom or failure”?? It’s all an opinion and a judgment because only GOD knows what the finality of each and every person will be. Those words and cliche is used upon what a person sees is “ working” or should “ work” for them. This is still judgement.

In examples like this, I answer privately as the WORD says.

But I do suggest in the name of Jesus to re-read the story of how Jesus forgave the sinner named Mary magdalene.

This is key in that situation you explained.

There are power in words. Be careful of the words we use to ourselves, to others, and out in this world.

Love to all in the holy precious name of Jesus Christ who lives and reigns among us forever.

5 posted on 06/19/2012 4:52:04 PM PDT by jesus4life
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To: jesus4life
What is actually “ Rock bottom or failure”?? It’s all an opinion and a judgment because only GOD knows what the finality of each and every person will be.

Rock bottom or failure for alcoholics is when they lose their job, house, family, etc and end up living on the streets, eventually dying in a ditch somewhere of liver failure. When you see someone on that path, if you care about them, you will tell them to get off that path.

I used alcoholism as an analogy for seeing someone on the wrong path with regards to God. Watching someone engage in behaviors and adopting attitudes that will result in damnation demands that, if you care about them, you will SAY SOMETHING. All of this "who are we to judge?" stuff is nothing but anti-Christian BS spewed by people who want to remove any resistance to evil. They want you to believe that the Christian thing to do is to sit back and watch someone destroy himself.

The Mary Magdelena example is a false analogy to what we are talking about. Jesus did not send the people away for recognizing Magdelena's sin - He sent them away for passing judgment on her, as in, they were going to execute her by stoning. That is a far cry from concerned people of God counseling her to change her ways. We don't get to say who is going to heaven or hell - only God does. But we can counsel people who are going against the Word of God that they are screwing up and should change their ways. In fact, that is OUR DUTY. Failing to do so because "who are we to judge" is an abdication of that duty and means that we are only lukewarm.
6 posted on 06/19/2012 5:11:18 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

You are one of the very few that did not reply back privately, as the WORD does order when having misunderstandings. But, I will answer you privately again. I pray you are obedient.



7 posted on 06/19/2012 11:23:04 PM PDT by jesus4life
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To: jesus4life

OK, now you’re just acting a little crazy. Thanks anyway.

8 posted on 06/19/2012 11:40:18 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: jesus4life

Isn’t this about the sin of omission? Nobody listens, what
do we do? Pray and keep quiet? Pray, yes. The subject
came up at dinner. I told my immediate family there
is recent message from Heaven, Our Lord said, nothing new,
if you are fornicating and you die without confessing it,
you will go to Hell.

I have siblings and a nephew, three of them fornicating,
would you e-mail them the message? My own family, teenagers
and older...said...nooooooo!

9 posted on 06/19/2012 11:47:59 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio

I posted the Scripture verse below. The message I was talking about...

Messages from Jesus Given a Chosen Child in Chicago

June 14, 2012 (9:18am)

Tell My beloved children there isn’t much more time left before My Mercy becomes My Justice. So many of you think you can live any way you wish and you won’t have to account for it. This is what the enemy wants you to believe, My children. You are so caught up in sin you don’t have any sense of wrong anymore. You think as long as you are not hurting anyone else that it is ok for you to live in illicit relationships. Your society has convinced some of you that if you love someone you CAN LIVE WITH THEM and it doesn’t matter what sex you are involved with. My children, you will BURN IN HELL for all eternity if you don’t repent of these sins and turn back to the Lord. You have been given countless graces to change and you ignore every opportunity for graces. My children, you have free will and I am not going to take that away from you. Won’t you ask yourself if you are willing to lose your soul rather than give up your sinful lives. My Heart is breaking as I see so many souls that are being lost. My dear ones, the ONLY WAY you can come back to the Lord is to make a good CONFESSION and be truly sorry for your sins and make a firm purpose to try not to commit these sins again. You wonder why you are sick and depressed all the time. The answer for most is your sinful lives. You can have so much joy and peace if you are in the State of Grace and serving God through others. My dear ones, the elections will soon be here. The country is on the verge of collapse. The only way to get it back under control again is to have a good 100% pro-life candidate for president. Are you still praying? It is up to you whether this happens. The miracle will take place when all of you are praying for this.

I love you, Jesus.

Yahoo Groups - Seers 2 message #36034

1 Corinthians 6:9
Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers,

10 posted on 06/20/2012 12:36:17 AM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio

Prayer is key, along with faith in GOD through JESUS CHRIST ( as I am sure you know).

We are all sinners, and when GOD finally changes us, sometimes we forget about that change and how long it took. Everyone’s change is different.

Some change as a child, some change as an adult, some change right before death. It doesnt matter, as long as they change.

Like Paul, the woman, the criminal at the cross, etc.... they all changed at different times.

Never believe the education of this world. I pray you understand this statement. If not, please ask privately.

Listening is not only with the ears, it’s also with the heart. And the heart only GOD hears; no one else can know someone else’s heart.

But there are many things out here that disrupt the mind. Whether purposely or not; but they are here. JESUS talks about this.

We must have love for all people in the various process in life. Just like GOD has love for us, as we keep being disobedient to what HE wants; we are all sinners.

Please read:

Warnings of educators, lawyers, and basically those who are educating us in what we should know and do but are not doing it ( though many are lost in this system today, but JESUS was talking to the ones that actually knew they are doing this. Which is not many of them. Many work for them, but actually dont know what they are teaching and representing to just make the dollar):

LUKE 11:38-54

38 The Pharisee saw this and was surprised that he had not first washed before the meal.

39 But the Lord said to him, ‘You Pharisees! You clean the outside of cup and plate, while inside yourselves you are filled with extortion and wickedness.

40 Fools! Did not he who made the outside make the inside too?

41 Instead, give alms from what you have and, look, everything will be clean for you.

42 But alas for you Pharisees, because you pay your tithe of mint and rue and all sorts of garden herbs and neglect justice and the love of God! These you should have practised, without neglecting the others.

43 Alas for you Pharisees, because you like to take the seats of honour in the synagogues and to be greeted respectfully in the market squares!

44 Alas for you, because you are like the unmarked tombs that people walk on without knowing it!’

45 A lawyer then spoke up. ‘Master,’ he said, ‘when you speak like this you insult us too.’

46 But he said, ‘Alas for you lawyers as well, because you load on people burdens that are unendurable, burdens that you yourselves do not touch with your fingertips.

47 ‘Alas for you because you build tombs for the prophets, the people your ancestors killed!

48 In this way you both witness to what your ancestors did and approve it; they did the killing, you do the building.

49 ‘And that is why the Wisdom of God said, “I will send them prophets and apostles; some they will slaughter and persecute,

50 so that this generation will have to answer for every prophet’s blood that has been shed since the foundation of the world,

51 from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who perished between the altar and the Temple.” Yes, I tell you, this generation will have to answer for it all.

52 ‘Alas for you lawyers who have taken away the key of knowledge! You have not gone in yourselves and have prevented others from going in who wanted to.’

53 When he left there, the scribes and the Pharisees began a furious attack on him and tried to force answers from him on innumerable questions,

54 lying in wait to catch him out in something he might say.

Let’s not forget who Paul was and what he was doing before JESUS came to him.

ACTS 9:1-5
1 Meanwhile Saul was still breathing threats to slaughter the Lord’s disciples. He went to the high priest

2 and asked for letters addressed to the synagogues in Damascus, that would authorise him to arrest and take to Jerusalem any followers of the Way, men or women, that he might find.

3 It happened that while he was travelling to Damascus and approaching the city, suddenly a light from heaven shone all round him.

4 He fell to the ground, and then he heard a voice saying, ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?’

5 ‘Who are you, Lord?’ he asked, and the answer came, ‘I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting.

Lets remember how JESUS handled the woman and how HE handled the Pharisees accusing her of sinful acts. Loving and powerful. Leaving both with nothing to say.

LUKE 7:36-

36 One of the Pharisees invited him to a meal. When he arrived at the Pharisee’s house and took his place at table,

37 suddenly a woman came in, who had a bad name in the town. She had heard he was dining with the Pharisee and had brought with her an alabaster jar of ointment.

38 She waited behind him at his feet, weeping, and her tears fell on his feet, and she wiped them away with her hair; then she covered his feet with kisses and anointed them with the ointment.

39 When the Pharisee who had invited him saw this, he said to himself, ‘If this man were a prophet, he would know who this woman is and what sort of person it is who is touching him and what a bad name she has.’

40 Then Jesus took him up and said, ‘Simon, I have something to say to you.’ He replied, ‘Say on, Master.’

41 ‘There was once a creditor who had two men in his debt; one owed him five hundred denarii, the other fifty.

42 They were unable to pay, so he let them both off. Which of them will love him more?’

43 Simon answered, ‘The one who was let off more, I suppose.’ Jesus said, ‘You are right.’

44 Then he turned to the woman and said to Simon, ‘You see this woman? I came into your house, and you poured no water over my feet, but she has poured out her tears over my feet and wiped them away with her hair.

45 You gave me no kiss, but she has been covering my feet with kisses ever since I came in.

46 You did not anoint my head with oil, but she has anointed my feet with ointment.

47 For this reason I tell you that her sins, many as they are, have been forgiven her, because she has shown such great love. It is someone who is forgiven little who shows little love.’

48 Then he said to her, ‘Your sins are forgiven.’

49 Those who were with him at table began to say to themselves, ‘Who is this man, that even forgives sins?’

50 But he said to the woman, ‘Your faith has saved you; go in peace.’

Criminal at the cross:
LUKE 23:39-43

39 One of the criminals hanging there abused him: ‘Are you not the Christ? Save yourself and us as well.’

40 But the other spoke up and rebuked him. ‘Have you no fear of God at all?’ he said. ‘You got the same sentence as he did,

41 but in our case we deserved it: we are paying for what we did. But this man has done nothing wrong.’

42 Then he said, ‘Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.’

43 He answered him, ‘In truth I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.’

Be patient and loving in all things. Pray unceasingly. GOD will answer in HIS time. But in the meantime, be steadfast, obedient, and be a living example of what you want people to be.



11 posted on 06/20/2012 9:21:09 AM PDT by jesus4life
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To: fr_freak; All

Before you go, and this is for all, please understand the obedience needed in any discussion, issue, or misunderstanding when talking to believers. We do this so their is no controversy that can mislead others:

MATTHEW 18:15-17

15 ‘If your brother does something wrong, go and have it out with him alone, between your two selves. If he listens to you, you have won back your brother.

16 If he does not listen, take one or two others along with you: whatever the misdemeanour, the evidence of two or three witnesses is required to sustain the charge.

17 But if he refuses to listen to these, report it to the community; and if he refuses to listen to the community, treat him like a gentile or a tax collector.

This is a chain of obedience issued by JESUS CHRIST that a believer must follow in situations that can be controversial or lead to confusion. One on one first.

Have a great day as all days are already blessed by the LORD.


12 posted on 06/20/2012 9:34:14 AM PDT by jesus4life
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To: stpio

I did not read your article before GOD had me send what HE wanted me to send you.

And WOW is always amazing, because HE answered what was needed now that I read the article.

yes, beware of the teachings.

As the WORD is very different from the article. Many people will use the name JESUS, GOD, HOLY SPIRIT, BIBLE, and other names that touch peoples’ heart just to gain some kind of glorification ( fame, money, or just attention); all sin.

Pray, read the WORD fully, and be the living example of what you want to see; in JESUS CHRIST holy and precious name! AMEN!



13 posted on 06/20/2012 9:38:37 AM PDT by jesus4life
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To: jesus4life

“And WOW is always amazing, because HE answered what was needed now that I read the article.

yes, beware of the teachings.

As the WORD is very different from the article. Many people will use the name JESUS, GOD, HOLY SPIRIT, BIBLE, and other names that touch peoples’ heart just to gain some kind of glorification ( fame, money, or just attention); all sin.

~ ~ ~

Your PM meant a lot to me. Thank you.

I posted the recent message from Our Lord in your thread to point out, I asked everyone, should you remain quiet when friends and family are living in grave mortal sin?

Fornication and sodomy unless confessed are damning.

Private revelation (prophecy), the messages from Heaven confirm God’s Word, the written and the oral. Prophecy makes God’s plan explicit. It is a great benefit. Prophecy strengthens your faith.

Look where prophecy is placed in the list...

1 Corinthians 12:28
And God indeed hath set some in the church; first apostles, secondly prophets, thirdly doctors; after that miracles; then the graces of healing, helps, governments, kinds of tongues, interpretations of speeches.

14 posted on 06/20/2012 1:35:24 PM PDT by stpio
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