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Theologian D.A. Carson: Hell Is Not Filled With People Who Repent of Sin
Christian Post ^ | 06/26/2012 | Michelle Vu

Posted on 06/26/2012 11:54:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

People who end up in hell do not repent, from what the Bible tells us, said respected New Testament scholar Don Arthur (D.A.) Carson on Sunday at The Gospel Coalition National Women's Conference in Orlando.

Carson, who is co-founder of The Gospel Coalition along with Pastor Tim Keller of Redeemer Presbyterian Church in Manhattan, said that as far as he can see in the Bible, "there is no hint anywhere that people in hell genuinely repent."

Pointing to the well-known parable of the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16:19-31, Carson, who is research professor of New Testament at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Deerfield, Ill., noted that in the story the rich man dies and from hell he looks up and sees Lazarus and Abraham. But instead of admitting that he was wrong to treat Lazarus poorly while they were alive, the rich man continues to boss him around.

"Wouldn't you expect him (rich man) to say, 'Oh Lazarus, did I get that one wrong. I am so sorry. Would you please forgive me?'" Carson posed. "But he doesn't even address him. He was a nobody in the days of his flesh. The rich man doesn't deal with nobodies, he goes straight to the top."

Paraphrasing verse 24, the theologian recalls the rich man saying, "'Father Abraham, tell Lazarus to go dip his finger into water and bring something to cool my tongue. It's pretty hot here.'

"Where is the repentance in that? He still thinks he is the center of the universe! He is still going to order Lazarus around! There is no brokenness, there is no contrition, there is no shame!"

Moreover, the rich man argues theologically with Abraham, "'No Father Abraham you got that one wrong. If someone rose from the dead that would really make a difference, don't you see?'

"Hell is not filled with people who are deeply sorry for their sins," Carson stated. "It is filled with people who for all eternity still shake their puny fist in the face of God almighty in an endless existence of evil, and corruption, and shame, and the wrath of God."

The Reformed Evangelical theologian's explanation of hell was part of a wider message based on Revelation 21-22, titled "Home at Last: The Spectacular God at the Center." In that message, the final one of the three-day Gospel Coalition women's conference, Carson spoke at length about the symbolism behind the descriptive vision of the new heaven and new earth, noting that there are not sufficient categories and understanding for the writer and people presently to grasp what kind of world will come about. He compared our inability to understand the new heaven and new earth to a people group living in a pre-Stone Age culture trying to understand how electricity works.

Nonetheless, Carson explained some of the symbolisms in Revelation 21-22, including Revelation 21:1 where it says "there was no longer any sea." He said that the Bible doesn't mean there will literally be no more sea as in a body of water, but sea in the Old Testament is connected to the wicked. Isaiah 57: 20 reads, "But the wicked are like the tossing sea, which cannot rest, whose waves cast up mire and mud." Therefore, the verse in Revelation saying there will be no more sea means that there will be no more chaos and evil in the new heaven and earth, said Carson.

He also explained Revelation 21:22, which says there will be no temple in New Jerusalem. There is no temple in the city because no mediating structure is needed because the entire city is the most holy place and God dwells in the whole city.

Carson was not the only male speaker at The Gospel Coalition National Women's Conference. Notably, while the conference is for women, it did not only focus on women. Instead, organizers stated that the conference's purpose was to help women dive deeper into the Gospel and understand more clearly God's character and purpose for His people.

Other people who spoke during the conference included Lauren Chandler, wife of Pastor Matt Chandler of The Village Church in Dallas; Carolyn Mahaney, wife of Pastor C.J. Mahaney of Sovereign Grace Ministries, John Piper of Bethlehem Baptist Church in Minneapolis, and Tim Keller.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: dacarson; hell; repentance; sin

1 posted on 06/26/2012 11:54:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, once this handbasket we’re in arrives at it’s destination, we will know for sure.


2 posted on 06/26/2012 11:57:49 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

“it’s destination”

Apparently, punctuation and proofreading won’t be a big thing there.


3 posted on 06/26/2012 11:58:57 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido
They're misuse is merely a venial sin.
4 posted on 06/26/2012 12:10:06 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s why we need a Messiah Who takes care of our sin - something we are not able to resolve by ourselves.

There is no resolving of sin apart from Christ because you can never repay God for your past sins, even if you never sinned again, which is impossible. Each of us will sin before this day is through. It is inevitable.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%205:18-21&version=KJV

2 Corinthians 5:18-21

King James Version (KJV)

18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ’s stead, be ye reconciled to God.

21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+9:28&version=KJV

Hebrews 9:28

King James Version (KJV)

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20John+1:7-9&version=KJV

1 John 1:7-9

King James Version (KJV)

7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


5 posted on 06/26/2012 12:13:54 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: SeekAndFind

REFLECTIONS
Life is short and death is sure; the hour of death remains obscure.

A soul you have, and only one; if that be lost all hope is gone.

Waste not your time, while time shall last; for after death ‘tis ever past.

The all-seeing God your Judge will be, and Heaven or Hell your destiny.

All earthly things will fleet away, Eternity will ever stay.


6 posted on 06/26/2012 12:15:54 PM PDT by notaliberal
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To: SeekAndFind
Luke 13:1 Now on the same occasion there were some present who reported to Him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. 2 And Jesus said to them, “ Do you suppose that these Galileans were greater sinners than all other Galileans because they suffered this fate? 3 I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish. (NASV)

The implication is clear: If you repent, you will not likewise perish

7 posted on 06/26/2012 1:49:54 PM PDT by Ahithophel (Communication is an art form susceptible to technical failure)
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To: SeekAndFind
As a Catholic I've heard some versions of hell.
The most horrifying one is the version presented by the Jesuits: hell is the total absence of God; it's total aloneness.
8 posted on 06/26/2012 1:53:16 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

It may even be worse than aloneness.

Imagine a marriage: two people in love. Then bleed every last drop of love out of it. Imagine two people living together and despising each other more and more every day. Forever.

Hell is a whole country like that.


9 posted on 06/26/2012 2:24:51 PM PDT by Claud
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To: cloudmountain
As a Catholic I've heard some versions of hell. The most horrifying one is the version presented by the Jesuits: hell is the total absence of God; it's total aloneness.

I've heard this often stated. But what does the Bible say?

The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb: (Revelation 14:10)

God (Jesus Christ, the Lamb) is right there in hell. And so are his angels. It is not aloneness--that is a false doctrine.

We also know from 2 Thess 1:9 that everlasting destruction will emanate from his presence and from the glory of his power. (All the modern versions translate [apo] "from" incorrectly as "separation from"--they add words. That would make the Bible contradict itself. The KJV (and possibly NKJV?!) gets it right: His presence is the source of the everlasting destruction.)

Let's be honest. Endless torment has to be the most horrifying prospect, not being "alone." And this is what awaits those who try to earn heaven by their good works and not trusting in the gospel to save them.

10 posted on 06/26/2012 2:53:27 PM PDT by nonsporting
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