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Pope approves Archbishop Sheen's heroic virtues, step toward sainthood
cns ^ | June 28, 2012 | Francis X. Rocca

Posted on 06/28/2012 1:11:48 PM PDT by NYer


Archbishop Sheen is pictured preaching in an undated photo. (CNS photo)

By Francis X. Rocca
Catholic News Service

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Pope Benedict XVI has approved the heroic virtues of U.S. Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, the Vatican announced June 28, clearing the way for the advancement of his sainthood cause.

Among the others honored in decrees announced the same day were first prelate of Opus Dei, the Canadian and Irish-American founders of two orders of religious women, a priest murdered by the Sicilian Mafia, and 154 martyrs killed during the Spanish Civil War.

Archbishop Sheen heroically lived Christian virtues and should be considered "venerable," said a decree issued by the Congregation for Saints' Causes and signed by Pope Benedict. Before the archbishop can be beatified, the Vatican must recognize that a miracle has occurred through his intercession.

The decree came just more than 13 months after Bishop Daniel R. Jenky of Peoria, Ill., presented Pope Benedict with two thick volumes about the life of Archbishop Sheen, whose home diocese was Peoria.

Archbishop Sheen, who was born in Illinois in 1895 and died in New York in 1979, was an Emmy-winning televangelist. His program, "Life is Worth Living," aired in the United States from 1951 to 1957.


With evidence of her son's alleged miraculous healing boxed and sealed in front of a portrait of Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, Bonnie Engstrom gives a reading at a Mass last December at St. Mary's Cathedral in Peoria, Ill. Pope Benedict XVI has approved the heroic virtues of Archbishop Sheen, whose home diocese was Peoria, clearing the way for the advancement of his sainthood cause. (CNS file/Tom Dermody, The Catholic Post)

Last September, a tribunal of inquiry was sworn in to investigate the allegedly miraculous healing of a newborn whose parents had prayed to the archbishop's intercession.

The Vatican also announced papal decrees approving the beatification of 158 men and women, including 156 martyrs, all but two of them Spaniards, killed during their country's 1936-39 Civil War.

Father Giuseppe Puglisi, a Sicilian priest and activist against organized crime who was killed by the Mafia in 1993, was another of the martyrs recognized.

Martyrs do not need a miracle attributed to their intercession in order to be beatified. However, miracles must be recognized by the Vatican in order for martyrs to be canonized.

Other decrees recognized the heroic virtues of eight men and women, including:

-- Bishop Alvaro del Portillo, the first prelate of Opus Dei.

-- Mother Marie-Josephte Fitzbach, founder of the Good Shepherd Sisters of Quebec.

-- Mother Mary Angeline Teresa McCrory, the Irish-born founder of the Carmelite Sisters for the Aged and Infirm, who died in New York state in 1984.



TOPICS: Catholic; History; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: sheen; televangelism; vatican

1 posted on 06/28/2012 1:11:55 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
In other news, ping!

Archbishop Sheen Cause

2 posted on 06/28/2012 1:13:30 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

“clearing the way for the advancement of his sainthood cause.”

The Bible refers to ALL believers in Christ as saints, multiple times.

If he wasn’t one at death, it is sadly, too late now.
If he was a saint at death, he doesn’t need a committee.


3 posted on 06/28/2012 1:17:39 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: NYer

Venerable Archbishop Sheen, pray for us!


4 posted on 06/28/2012 1:23:27 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Spinach at every meal.)
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To: Tax-chick

And now more than ever.


5 posted on 06/28/2012 1:24:51 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I realize you are not conversant with the terminology, but a little curiosity wouldn't hurt.

If he were not a saint at death, then he is not one now, assuredly.

If he was a saint at death, that is surely known to the Almighty but is not necessarily known to us.

The process of canonization establishes whether or not this person, who so many look to as an example, truly is what he is said to be - so that we can know the answer to the question.

6 posted on 06/28/2012 1:27:12 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: NYer

Sheen was cool. A little before my time, but I watch videos of his TV program and I’m always impressed.


7 posted on 06/28/2012 1:29:07 PM PDT by joe.fralick
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Scripture is lost on linguistic literalists.

"And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build My church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven." Matthew 16:18-19

8 posted on 06/28/2012 1:32:35 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: wideawake

“I realize you are not conversant with the terminology, but a little curiosity wouldn’t hurt.”
“If he was a saint at death, that is surely known to the Almighty but is not necessarily known to us.”

... I know the terminology. More important than me is that the Holy Bible is clear and unequivocal that all believers in Christ are saints from the moment they exercise faith in the Gospel of Grace. The closest we can get on earth to knowing they have exercised saving faith is their word and the accompanying fruit of their lives. Faith that saves is never alone.

“The process of canonization establishes whether or not this person, who so many look to as an example, truly is what he is said to be - so that we can know the answer to the question.”

... Unfortunately, nothing that transpires by committee after death, confirms someone is a saint.

... Unfortunately too, these proceedings add criteria that fly in the face of the clear teaching of the Holy Bible as to what a true saint is.


9 posted on 06/28/2012 1:37:00 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: NYer
'Oy. Another liberal "conservative" for the saint mill.

Oh well. After Cardinal Newman, why not?

10 posted on 06/28/2012 1:37:43 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Unfortunately, nothing that transpires by committee after death, confirms someone is a saint

In other words, you do not believe that the Lord founded a Church or, if you do, you do not believe that He endowed it with any discernment.

Such a view is contrary to the Scriptural evidence.

11 posted on 06/28/2012 2:30:28 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; wideawake

Following along with freeper wideawake’s approach, it might be easier to think of this in terms of sports. There are many great athletes but not all of them are recognized. For Catholics, saints are like sports heroes in the secular world. Their stories exemplify lives turned toward Christ, despite great hardships. In the Catholic Church, the process is lengthy and must meet strict criteria, including two documented miracles. While many christians are saints, not all of them meet such criteria.


12 posted on 06/28/2012 2:33:35 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: wideawake

“In other words, you do not believe that the Lord founded a Church or, if you do, you do not believe that He endowed it with any discernment.”

Neither is correct.

“Such a view is contrary to the Scriptural evidence.”

Such a view affirms Scripture.


13 posted on 06/28/2012 2:47:56 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: NYer

“For Catholics, saints are like sports heroes in the secular world. Their stories exemplify lives turned toward Christ, despite great hardships. In the Catholic Church, the process is lengthy and must meet strict criteria, including two documented miracles. While many christians are saints, not all of them meet such criteria.”

I don’t mean to tell you what to believe. You alone decide that.

I simply pointed out that the Holy Bible recognizes ALL Christians as saints. No exceptions are shown ever.

Further, their sainthood depends only on their acceptance/trust in the completed work of Christ. There are absolutely no miracles required. Not even one miracle required. None.

Frankly, most so called miracles claimed are opinions. Acts records that when Peter walked down the streets and his shadow fell on people, they were healed. Healing was undeniable. But even in Peter’s case, that did not make him a saint. Today, the “miracles” involve someone praying to some departed Christian and claiming that person healed them - opinion. Heck, we don’t even know the departed Christian can hear them, let alone heal.

To make sainthood into a sports star status demeans the power of the Gospel of Grace that makes all true believers into saints. THAT is an amazing miracle!


14 posted on 06/28/2012 2:57:31 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: NYer

It was the highlight of our day to come home and listen to Bishop Fulton J. Sheen. God IS good and...God IS watching and listening. To all those who doubt... when the time comes...don’t say we didn’t warn you.


15 posted on 06/28/2012 2:58:34 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
"... Unfortunately, nothing that transpires by committee after death, confirms someone is a saint."

This is reveals a gross misunderstanding of Catholic doctrine. The Church does not create saints or decide who is or is not a saint. It only recognizes individuals worthy of veneration and emulation because of their lives, contributions and sacrifices. It is not an inerrant practice.

Peace be with you.

16 posted on 06/28/2012 2:58:41 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law

“It is not an inerrant practice.”

Even worse, it distorts the word “saint” that God Himself applies multiple times to every single believer. It adds qualifications God Himself does not add.

Clearly, it is not inerrant.

For the record, I hope the dear man was a saint.


17 posted on 06/28/2012 3:02:13 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
"Even worse, it distorts the word “saint” that God Himself applies multiple times to every single believer."

Your understanding is apparently crippled by the limitations of English. A saint is a holy person, and the term saint is derived from the Latin word "Sanctus" meaning holy. It is not an office, it is an adjective. A saint is one recognized by the Church as holy.

The Church used this term for 15 centuries before there was an English language. If anyone is guilty of distorting the term is it the English.

Peace be with you.

18 posted on 06/28/2012 3:46:47 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: wideawake
In addition to your statement.

SAINTHOOD 101: Rules for Becoming a Saint [Catholic Caucus]
The Process of Becoming a Saint (Canonization) [Catholic Caucus]
Pope Lists Criteria for Causes of Canonization

19 posted on 06/28/2012 4:28:52 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
The following are the basic steps to becoming a saint:

1) The candidate must be deceased for a minimum of five years

So do you meet the first criterion for becoming a saint?

20 posted on 06/28/2012 4:31:19 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
the Holy Bible recognizes ALL Christians as saints. No exceptions are shown ever.

If all christians are saints, then that body includes the likes of Hitler. Do you really believe that Hitler is a saint?

To make sainthood into a sports star status demeans the power of the Gospel of Grace that makes all true believers into saints. THAT is an amazing miracle!

It was an analogy; I guess you missed the point. Like secularist children look up to sports stars, Catholics look up to those who have been declared saints. Their examples offer encouragement to strive harder against oppressors. Does that wording make more sense?

21 posted on 06/28/2012 4:34:09 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
"I simply pointed out that the Holy Bible recognizes ALL Christians as saints."

Scripture and Sacred Tradition both affirm that Holy is as Holy does.

"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." - Matthew 7:21

Peace be with you.

22 posted on 06/28/2012 4:52:33 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: NYer

“If all christians are saints, then that body includes the likes of Hitler. Do you really believe that Hitler is a saint?”

A Christian is someone who has entrusted himself to the Gospel of grace - this is never alone. The new life of Christ always produces a godly life, marked by works. All Christians are saints, as the Holy Bible addresses them.

I see no confirmation of godliness or good works in the life of Hitler, maybe you do?


23 posted on 06/28/2012 5:12:15 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: Natural Law

“Your understanding is apparently crippled by the limitations of English. A saint is a holy person, and the term saint is derived from the Latin word “Sanctus” meaning holy. It is not an office, it is an adjective. A saint is one recognized by the Church as holy.”

My understanding is affirmed when I read the Greek New Testament, the language it was written in - and which predates the Latin translation.

The Scriptures call all believers saints - holy ones.

Peace to you too.


24 posted on 06/28/2012 5:16:41 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
"My understanding is affirmed when I read the Greek New Testament, the language it was written in - and which predates the Latin translation."

Are you reading Greek or are you using a concordance? I ask because the majority of the Protestant concordances were constructed by attempting to tie the King James translation to the original Koine Greek manuscripts.

St. Jerome based the Catholic definition of Saint on the Latin equivalent of the Koine Greek "Hagios" which means a Holy person. That is all that the Church affirms when it recognizes a person as a saint (holy).

I'm not sure where you are going with this argument because to advance it you will have to make an argument that none of those recognized as saints by the Catholic Church are holy and I don't think that is what you are contending.

Peace be with you

25 posted on 06/28/2012 7:06:18 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law

“Are you reading Greek or are you using a concordance? I ask because the majority of the Protestant concordances were constructed by attempting to tie the King James translation to the original Koine Greek manuscripts.”

I read NT Greek. I also know how to use tools. Since I am not a protestant, I’m not sure where you are going with that.

“I’m not sure where you are going with this argument because to advance it you will have to make an argument that none of those recognized as saints by the Catholic Church are holy and I don’t think that is what you are contending.”

I don’t have an argument. Nor did I argue that anyone was or wasn’t a saint. I stated the reality of who God recognizes as a saint - ALL believers who have entrusted themselves to the Gospel of Grace. No more or no less. Please reread my first post, if you are interested. I said it clearly there.

Peace back at ya.


26 posted on 06/28/2012 7:53:52 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“Unfortunately too, these proceedings add criteria that fly in the face of the clear teaching of the Holy Bible as to what a true saint is”

It’s always amazed me that protestants put down all things Catholic, but still believe (and attempt to interpret)that Catholic document known as the Holy Bible.


27 posted on 06/28/2012 9:28:47 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

“It’s always amazed me that protestants put down all things Catholic, but still believe (and attempt to interpret)that Catholic document known as the Holy Bible.”

1. Not Protestant.
2. Either the Holy Scriptures are inspired by God, or they are not.
3. I simply pointed out the fallacy of the procedure in the face of Holy Scripture.
4. Finally, I do not believe the Holy Scriptures are a Catholic document-they are a God document.


28 posted on 06/29/2012 7:24:40 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

To know history is also to become Catholic. We, along with the Orthodox are the only Churches that stretch right back to Christ and the Apostles. The true faith has literally been handed from the apostles to their successors the bishops through the laying on of hands. We have a living Tradition of cherished teachings and memories going back to Christ himself.

Sadly the upheaval of the 16th century led to the Protestant denominations of today which were largely severed from history and Tradition. Sola Scriptura! (Scripture alone!) the cry went up, as if Scripture could be divorced from the Church, and sacred history that gave it birth. An immense and ahistorical rupture severed many Christians from their sacred inheritance.

Today there are often claims by many in the Protestant denominations that some Catholic teaching or another is either unbiblical or was invented in the Middle Ages or later. But to study history puts the lie to this claim and to read the Fathers of the Church is to enter a very Catholic world. To read the Fathers throws opens a door to the earliest centuries of the Church stretching back to as early as 100 AD a the very close of the Apostolic age. It is almost like a seamless garment. As the last Book of Scripture was being written around 90 AD, the first letters and documents of the Fathers began being circulated among the faithful. They cast light on the earliest history of the Church and we discover that world to be Catholic, a world wherein sacraments are on glorious display along with Scripture, a world where in authority and unity are insisted upon, a world of Bishops, Priests, Deacons and of the Popes. Protestant imaginings of the Church simply do not stand the test of history which testifies overwhelmingly to things Catholic.

http://blog.adw.org/2009/10/to-study-history-is-to-become-catholic/


29 posted on 06/29/2012 9:38:10 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

“To know history is also to become Catholic.”

I know and have read history and do not believe what you wrote is true. Neither is it the focus of this thread.

I’ll pass and let the thread continue on topic.


30 posted on 06/29/2012 9:44:59 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Protestants have as their sole rule of faith the written Word of God, which we find in Sacred Scripture. The Catholic Church has as its sole rule of faith, the entire Word of God, as it is found in Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition.

All of the Word of God was at one time passed on orally...Sacred Tradition. Eventually, some of Sacred Tradition was written down...this became Sacred Scripture, which is written tradition. However, Scripture itself tells us that not all of the things that Jesus said and did were written down. And listen to what Paul says about “tradition”:

2 Thes 2:15, “So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.” Traditions! Traditions taught by word of mouth, in other words, oral tradition, and traditions taught by letter. Traditions which they are being told to “stand firm and hold to”. Sacred Scripture and

1 Cor 11:2, “I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you.” The Corinthians are being commended by Paul because they maintain the traditions that he passed on to them. Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition.

2 Tim 2:2: “and what you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.” What we have here in 2 Timothy is an instance, in Scripture, of Paul commanding the passing on of oral tradition.

1 Thes 2:13, “And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the Word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the Word of God, which is at work in you believers.” So, they received as the Word of God that which they heard, not simply that which they read in Scripture.

In other words, the Bible clearly supports the Catholic Church’s teaching that the Word of God is contained in both Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition.


31 posted on 06/29/2012 11:06:21 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Dear NKP_Vet,

You seem to want to argue about something that is off topic. I have no desire to argue.

As a NON-Protestant, I am not concerned about Protestant beliefs. I leave that to you.
Believe whatever you wish. It is your right and I am not trying to change your mind.
You will, however, have to find someone else to argue with about those issues - perhaps
a protestant?

Further, I am not interested in simple copy and paste interactions. I like to discuss things
with others who are doing the thinking and responding from their own thoughts and examination of
the issues. I realize too much of that happens online, but it doesn’t compel my participation
or attract me.

I made a simple observation up-thread. It was on-topic. That is all.

Blessings to you.


32 posted on 06/29/2012 11:18:07 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
"Since I am not a protestant,"

Participation in any of these discussions often requires that we read between the lines and consider the perspective or theological context of the participants. Not doing so would require many pro forma disclaimers and disclosures. That said I am interested in how you define Protestant and how you consider your specific belief set or denomination to be non-Protestant.

Peace be with you

33 posted on 06/29/2012 11:42:22 AM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law

I’m not sure what the attraction is in going off topic. I guess it you post an article, we could discuss it.

Here it comes across as an ad hominem attack instead of a discussion about the topic.


34 posted on 06/29/2012 1:39:10 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
"Here it comes across as an ad hominem attack instead of a discussion about the topic."

I wouldn't call my inquiry completely off topic, I simply consider it administrative overhead. It was in no way intended to be ab ad hominem.

For example, when one uses the words Grace, Salvation, Faith, Saint, etc, it is important to know their particular perspective in order to understand the point they are trying to make. These seemingly simple terms mean significantly different things to different people. I unambiguously state that I am a Latin Rite Catholic. I don't know why anyone would be reluctant to proclaim their particular flavor or denomination.

Peace be with you.

35 posted on 06/29/2012 1:55:31 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law

I am only interested in what “saint” means to God, who inspired its use. The rest is human error... As I pointed out up-thread.


36 posted on 06/29/2012 2:22:14 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
"I am only interested in what “saint” means to God, who inspired its use. The rest is human error... As I pointed out up-thread."

That's nice, but you aren't talking to God in these threads, you are attempting to communicate with His creatures. If you want to commune with God, you don't need Free Republic or a PC to do it, if you want to communicate with other persons, you need words and a language.

There exists in human thought and reason a very direct relationship between ideas and words. In most forms of communication, words are essential to the specific expression of ideas. Language is a preexisting assumption or collective agreement on the matching of words with specific ideas. When you cloak your meanings in vague assertions of a self possessed inerrancy that you deny anyone else then you have effectively closed off communication. If that is your desire then I will no longer respond and will leave you to your tree falling in the forest exercise.

Peace be with you.

37 posted on 06/29/2012 2:47:14 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law

“When you cloak your meanings in vague assertions of a self possessed inerrancy that you deny anyone else then you have effectively closed off communication. If that is your desire then I will no longer respond and will leave you to your tree falling in the forest exercise.”

I think in every post you made to me on this thread, you have included an ad hominem attack or innuendo. I never respond to those because I’m commanded to love you in actions. I have done so.

I am not inerrant - ever - nor claim to be. The Scriptures are inspired by God and inerrant in the original manuscripts. This was another ad hominem attack from you.

The Bible clearly, in many places through the Apostles, addresses all Christians as saints (Gk, “holy ones”). That is a fact. It isn’t my opinion... and it isn’t vague in the slightest. Anyone objective can read it in multiple places in the Holy Bible. I posted the same up-thread, but you failed to address it after many posts. Your call. I acknowledge you have the right to respond however you wish. I also have the right not to play games as a substitute for a discussion.

Since you suggest you will no longer respond, and in light of your previous responses, I affirm that seems a good plan. To make it easier for you to keep your word, I will do the same.

I wish you the best.


38 posted on 06/29/2012 3:37:40 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

No arguing here. I just stand up for God’s Pilgrim Church on Earth. You say you’re not Protestant. You’re certainly not Catholic, so no need for me to discuss any type of faith matters with a non-believer. Have a nice day.


39 posted on 06/29/2012 4:31:26 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NYer
Vultus Christi

Venerable Fulton J. Sheen

 on June 29, 2012 8:18 PM |
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In a private audience yesterday with the Prefect of the Congregation for the Causes of the Saints, Cardinal Angelo Amato, His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI approved the "heroic virtue" of Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, thereby officially opening the well-loved radio and television preacher's cause for canonization.

When Fulton J. Sheen was ordained a priest of the Diocese of Peoria, Illinois in 1919, he promised to make a Holy Hour each day before the Most Blessed Sacrament. He remained faithful to his promise for the entire sixty years of his priesthood. It was during his Holy Hour that he learned to listen to the voice of Our Lord and abandon himself to the love of His Heart. Archbishop Sheen was a tireless promoter of the daily hour of Eucharistic adoration, particularly among priests. Concerning this practise, he wrote:

I keep up the Holy Hour to grow more and more into His likeness... Looking at the Eucharistic Lord for an hour transforms the heart in a mysterious way as the face of Moses was transformed after his companionship with God on the mountain.
The Holy Hour is not a devotion; it is a sharing in the work of redemption. 'Could you not watch one hour with Me?' Not for an hour of activity did He plead, but for an hour of companionship.
The purpose of the Holy Hour is to encourage deep personal encounter with Christ. The holy and glorious God is constantly inviting us to come to Him, to hold converse with Him and to ask such things as we need and to experience what a blessing there is in fellowship with Him. One of the by-products of the Holy Hour was the sensitiveness to the Eucharistic Presence of Our Divine Lord.

40 posted on 06/29/2012 6:35:41 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Martin Luther disagreed with you.

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"We are compelled to concede to the Papists
that they have the Word of God,
that we received it from them,
and that without them
we should have no knowledge of it at all."

~ Martin Luther




41 posted on 06/29/2012 6:38:39 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“Martin Luther disagreed with you.”

I believe you are mistaken about what I believe.

As to Luther, he never new me. He died, you know, in a century before I came into existence. To my knowledge, he wasn’t omniscient.

I am thankful for his life in some ways.

:-)


42 posted on 06/29/2012 6:51:03 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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So do you believe that the Bible came from the Catholic Church? That was the point I was trying to make.


43 posted on 06/29/2012 7:00:11 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
"We are compelled to concede to the Papists that they have the Word of God, that we received it from them, and that without them we should have no knowledge of it at all."

~ Martin Luther

Luther was wrong. The papists are the group that broke away from the Orthodox, because of organizational and cultural disputes. The Orthodox also hold, "The Word of God". Note that no one refers to The Book as the Word of the Pope, the word of the Papists, or the word of the Cathoolics, ect... Either The Word of God belongs to all, or it belongs to a select few. God says it belongs to all, so the Catholics should acknowledge that and share and make nice.

44 posted on 06/29/2012 7:07:12 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Salvation

“So do you believe that the Bible came from the Catholic Church? That was the point I was trying to make.”

Again, off thread topic...

The Hebrew Scriptures, were widely used and recognized by the time of Christ. The early church used them, being mostly Jewish converts. As such, they came before the Church came into existence, and make up 2/3 of the Scriptures.

The New Testament Scriptures were written, circulated, used and recognized before 100 ad (most before 70ad). 5 books were in dispute, but were used by believers.

GOD inspired all of Scripture, working through the lives of individual Jews and Christians to bring it into existence and preserve it through history, down to our times.

So the short answer to your question is that I believe the Bible came from God, through men and was preserved supernaturally by him. I also believe He preserved His revelation by inspiring men of God to reject the spurious books in circulation during the early centuries.

Later in history (approx 367), the Catholic Church formalized a canon that was already widely in use centuries before by believers.

I am thankful to God for how He has worked through men over thousands of years to inspire and preserve His word.

best to you.


45 posted on 06/29/2012 7:20:30 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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