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To: NYer

“For Catholics, saints are like sports heroes in the secular world. Their stories exemplify lives turned toward Christ, despite great hardships. In the Catholic Church, the process is lengthy and must meet strict criteria, including two documented miracles. While many christians are saints, not all of them meet such criteria.”

I don’t mean to tell you what to believe. You alone decide that.

I simply pointed out that the Holy Bible recognizes ALL Christians as saints. No exceptions are shown ever.

Further, their sainthood depends only on their acceptance/trust in the completed work of Christ. There are absolutely no miracles required. Not even one miracle required. None.

Frankly, most so called miracles claimed are opinions. Acts records that when Peter walked down the streets and his shadow fell on people, they were healed. Healing was undeniable. But even in Peter’s case, that did not make him a saint. Today, the “miracles” involve someone praying to some departed Christian and claiming that person healed them - opinion. Heck, we don’t even know the departed Christian can hear them, let alone heal.

To make sainthood into a sports star status demeans the power of the Gospel of Grace that makes all true believers into saints. THAT is an amazing miracle!


14 posted on 06/28/2012 2:57:31 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
the Holy Bible recognizes ALL Christians as saints. No exceptions are shown ever.

If all christians are saints, then that body includes the likes of Hitler. Do you really believe that Hitler is a saint?

To make sainthood into a sports star status demeans the power of the Gospel of Grace that makes all true believers into saints. THAT is an amazing miracle!

It was an analogy; I guess you missed the point. Like secularist children look up to sports stars, Catholics look up to those who have been declared saints. Their examples offer encouragement to strive harder against oppressors. Does that wording make more sense?

21 posted on 06/28/2012 4:34:09 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
"I simply pointed out that the Holy Bible recognizes ALL Christians as saints."

Scripture and Sacred Tradition both affirm that Holy is as Holy does.

"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." - Matthew 7:21

Peace be with you.

22 posted on 06/28/2012 4:52:33 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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