Posted on 06/29/2012 3:15:28 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
The bishops released a statement a short time ago:
Today the United States Supreme Court issued a decision upholding as a tax the provision of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) that requires individuals to purchase a health plan—the so-called “individual mandate.”For nearly a century, the Catholic bishops of the United States have been and continue to be consistent advocates for comprehensive health care reform to ensure access to life-affirming health care for all, especially the poorest and the most vulnerable. Although the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) did not participate in these cases and took no position on the specific questions presented to the Court, USCCB’s position on health care reform generally and on ACA particularly is a matter of public record. The bishops ultimately opposed final passage of ACA for several reasons.
First, ACA allows use of federal funds to pay for elective abortions and for plans that cover such abortions, contradicting longstanding federal policy.The risk we identified in this area has already materialized, particularly in the initial approval by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) of “high risk” insurance pools that would have covered abortion.
Second, the Act fails to include necessary language to provide essential conscience protection, both within and beyond the abortion context.We have provided extensive analyses of ACA’s defects with respect to both abortion and conscience.The lack of statutory conscience protections applicable to ACA’s new mandates has been illustrated in dramatic fashion by HHS’s “preventive services” mandate, which forces religious and other employers to cover sterilization and contraception, including abortifacient drugs.
Third, ACA fails to treat immigrant workers and their families fairly.ACA leaves them worse off by not allowing them to purchase health coverage in the new exchanges created under the law, even if they use their own money.This undermines the Act’s stated goal of promoting access to basic life-affirming health care for everyone, especially for those most in need.
Following enactment of ACA, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) has not joined in efforts to repeal the law in its entirety, and we do not do so today. The decision of the Supreme Court neither diminishes the moral imperative to ensure decent health care for all, nor eliminates the need to correct the fundamental flaws described above.We therefore continue to urge Congress to pass, and the Administration to sign, legislation to fix those flaws.
100 years of the Catholic church pushing to socialize America, and that predates abortion of course, it goes back into a time when the goal was pure socialism.
I can see why Catholics choose people like Obama and Clinton, and Al Gore, it is the left wing political agenda that they embrace.
The Protestants voted against Obama as they do every democrat candidate for president.
Catholics voted for Obama, and as we learn here, they have been pushing for socializing medicine for a 100 years.
Personally I consider conservatives better voters and the liberal voters as spineless cowards and good puppies to government.
Thank you, but I had already read it, but it was clear that those so anxious to turn the issue into an exercise in anti-Catholicism did not. Even the editing of the article for the purpose of posting was dishonest.
I have said it before, but Catholics are treated differently by the secular world because we are different. Individualism is a great working principle for the secular world; for business, and constitutional politics, but it is antithetical for a Church based upon charity and social justice. Catholics are called to communion and unity in the body of Christ. Our mission requires that we serve Jesus by serving those the world has rejected, those the world has abused, the broken, and the sinners. We are called to forgive those who hate us. The world will hate us for this, but it hated Him too.
Peace be with you
I was looking for the part where the bishops opposed the law, because it violated the commandment that “y’all shalt not steal”. Funny... I couldn’t find it.
The Protestants voted against Obama as they do every democrat candidate for president.Uh, no, that just isn't true. How the Faithful Voted
Overall, 45% of Protestants voted for the Democrat, an increase of five points since 2004.
What about the bishops' anti-"y'all shalt not steal" agenda? Address that and quit trying to change the subject to some imaginary persecution complex.
Uh yes, the Protestant vote as it always does went Republican.
54% of Protestants voted pro-life Republican, just as 54% of the members of the Roman Catholic denomination voted pro-abortion Democrat.
BTTT!
>> “That is an attempt at mind reading.” <<
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Nonsense; its an assessment of facts in evidence.
“Catholic social ministry begins and ends with Jesus Christ,” he said. “If it doesn’t, it isn’t Catholic.”
Archbishop Chaput
I had been to those first. I was, at the time, very reluctant to leave a Protestant church. Methodist, Episcopalian, Lutheran, Baptist, LDS. None seemed to match what I was looking for. In fact, they are way more liberal, here where I live, than ANY Catholic church I’ve ever been to, with the exception of LDS. Frankly, if it weren’t for the children, I’d have joined the Eastern Orthodox. There is just no way, however, they could stand quietly for that amount of time.
100 years of the Catholic church pushing to socialize America, and that predates abortion of course, it goes back into a time when even the most dishonest Catholic liberal could not claim it as anything other than socialism.
I can see why Catholics choose people like Obama and Clinton, and Al Gore, it is the left wing political agenda that they embrace.
This is the left fighting against America, and freedom:
"For nearly a century, the Catholic bishops of the United States have been and continue to be consistent advocates for comprehensive health care reform"
Are we conservatives here at freerepublic are not?
52% of non-hispanics Catholics (a majority of us) voted AGAINST the pro-abortion Democrat. It was the "socially conservative" Hispanic Catholics who voted for the pro-abortion Democrat.
It works the same way with protestants when you break it down by ethnic group -- white protestants voted Republican, Hispanic protestants choose the Democrats.
The reason why the "Catholic vote" is more Democrat overall, is because there is a far greater percentage of Hispanic Catholics than there are Hispanic protestants.
Ansell's statement that "Protestants voted against every democrat candidate for president" is also untrue. Quite a few socialist Democrats have won a majority of the "protestant vote" nationally, including LBJ and FDR.
Nope. You misread the numbers.
“Are we conservatives here at freerepublic {sic} are not?”
Literacy challenged, maybe? Certainly numeracy challenged.
I have been looking for a church as well and was heavily considering the Catholic church, but in learning of how liberal even many freeper Catholics are, I am having doubts about the Catholic denomination, I am a conservative, and I just keep seeing too many red flags, too much liberalism, and something different than the holy spirit.
I would not fault a family breadwinner who did not want the government to take his house, garnish wages, or whatever draconian measure will be visited on those who don't comply.
I'm sure that there will be people who are "made examples of" to cow everyone into getting in line.
I've said since it first was a gleam in O's eye, it was my line in the sand. I'm not jumping up and down with glee at whatever consequence my decision will bring.
So is making the thread "about" individual Freepers.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Actually what I said was “The Protestants voted against Obama as they DO every democrat candidate for president.”
Protestants did vote Democrat in 1932, 1936, and 1964, but they “do” vote against democrats with those three historical exceptions.
Catholic is a single denomination and it voted 54% for Obama, Protestants, with blacks and Hispanics included, voted 54% Republican.
Hispanics who become Protestant move right, 56% for Bush in 2004 and 48% for McCain in 2008, they are to the right of the Catholic church’s voters.
No, the numbers are accurate, 54% non-Catholic Christians for the pro-life ticket, and 54% Catholic Christians for the pro-abortion ticket.
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