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Rupert Murdock Tweets Truth on Scientology
The Christian Diarist ^ | July 2, 2012 | JP

Posted on 07/02/2012 8:53:36 AM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Rubert Murdoch has a lot of Thetans perturbed with him. That’s because the founder and chairman of News Corp., which owns Fox News and the Wall Street Journal, among other media properties, tweeted Sunday that there is “(s)omething creepy, maybe even evil, about these people.”

Murdoch was referring to adherents of Scientology, like actor Tom Cruise, who prefer to think themselves as “Thetans” – a term coined by L. Ron Hubbard, the cult’s founder – rather than “people.”

Murdoch followed up his original tweet with another reporting that his twitter account had been bombarded with “hundreds of attacks” from Thetans. That confirms to me that the media mogul is right about Scientologists.

There is, indeed, something creepy about them. And some of them may not only be creepy, but downright evil.

What particularly troubles me about Scientology is that it refers to itself as the “Church,” blasphemously placing itself on the same level as the true Church, which was established by Jesus Christ.

Scientology is no authentic “religion.” It is the product of Hubbard’s imaginings, which drew upon his experience as a science fiction writer, as well as his dabbling in psychotherapy, which led to his creation of a self-help system he called “Dianetics.”

The creepy part of Scientology is its teaching that we are all, everyone, descendents of Thetans brought to Earth 75 million years ago by Xenu, the tyrant ruler of the “Galactic Confederacy.”

Xenu supposedly brought billions our ancestors here in spacecraft (which resembled Douglas DC-8 airliners). The spacecraft were stacked around volcanoes into which hydrogen bombs were exploded. Thetans clustered together, stuck to the bodies of the living and supposedly continue to do so to this day.

This is the belief to which such celebrity Scientologists as Cruise, John Travolta, Lisa Marie Presley and Leahy Remini adhere. It sounds similar to me to the twisted beliefs of the Heaven’s Gate “religion” in San Diego, 39 members of which committed suicide – they preferred to think of it as “shedding their containers” – back in 1997.

The Scripture warns that “many false prophets will rise up and deceive many.” L. Ron Hubbard was such a false prophet. And the Godless “religion” he created truly has deceived many.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: cult; lronhubbard; scientology; xenu
I think it no coincidence that the Scientology cross bears a striking resemblance to the satanic uncrossed cross.
1 posted on 07/02/2012 8:53:45 AM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Hope he has hired extra boy guards and lawyers to defend him.


2 posted on 07/02/2012 8:55:39 AM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

http://www.adherents.com/largecom/fam_scientologist.html/

Greta Van Sustern is a scientologist. That surprised me.


3 posted on 07/02/2012 9:06:57 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

“....who prefer to think themselves as “Thetans”....”

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Why the lisp? Is it not pronounced “satans”?


4 posted on 07/02/2012 9:14:26 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Years ago my sister took me to see a group of them, who wanted to “evaluate” us. First thing they did was split us up. After giving me a little test, they starting telling me what I needed to do to improve my life and how they could do it for me.

Alarm bells were going off in my head, so I declined their “assistance”. They got downright scary. They didn’t make physical threats, but they were very intimidating. I wasn’t sure they were going to allow me to leave, but they eventually did. I found my sister and got the heck out of there, never to return.


5 posted on 07/02/2012 9:23:17 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Running in circles and screaming is not a strategy.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Charles Manson was tested “clear” by Scientology.


6 posted on 07/02/2012 9:24:12 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
“Thetans” huh?
7 posted on 07/02/2012 9:33:10 AM PDT by Boris99
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

If Rupert Murdock had negative comments about the Mormon faith and Mitt Romney, then the “pro-Obama left entities” wouldn’t have any problems with that.


8 posted on 07/02/2012 9:33:10 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Scientology, Charles Manson’s Family, Jim Jones, and Anton Levey’s Church of Satan all got started in California along roughly the same time frame. Everybody search for “some other truth”. Or control.

Then there is the Scientology splinter group (still around today) The Process Church of Final Judgment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Process_Church_of_The_Final_Judgment

I recall reading that they invested in a bit of real estate in the Boston market and still draw funds off it.


9 posted on 07/02/2012 9:34:56 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: SandyInSeattle

Sounds similar to a time-share presentation I was forced to endure once.


10 posted on 07/02/2012 9:37:21 AM PDT by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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To: Beowulf9

In the past, Greta said that she was a Mormon, so her being a scientologist surprises me, if it’s true.


11 posted on 07/02/2012 9:38:28 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Scientology is no authentic “religion.”

The Clinton administration gave it full clearance as a legitimate (and tax exempt) religion.

Don't they claim "trade secrets" or some other copyright/trademark on their "religious" teachings like the big SF story of how man is the spawn of mixed up aliens with personality flaws that must be cleared through past life regression "auditing"?

What comes out in lawsuits is suppressed by this corporate cult as "trade secrets". If they are greater TRUTHS, there is no ownership on them. It's a wackjob shakedown racket. Hollywood knows that you join, you'll get work. It's a networking thing. Additionally, it gives some Hollywood dope addicts a new thing to focus on other than the drugs.

12 posted on 07/02/2012 9:40:00 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Fools.Damn fools.Welcome to the USSA. Socialism is slavery to the State and the Supreme Court did it)
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To: Egon
Sounds similar to a time-share presentation I was forced to endure once.

HOWL!

13 posted on 07/02/2012 9:43:11 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Scientology is no authentic “religion.” It is the product of Hubbard’s imaginings, which drew upon his experience as a science fiction writer, as well as his dabbling in psychotherapy, which led to his creation of a self-help system he called “Dianetics.”

More complicated (and darker) than that. He also had ties to Jack Parsons and his little group of Crowleyite occultists.

14 posted on 07/02/2012 9:44:02 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
which drew upon his experience as a science fiction writer,

That should read "which drew upon his experience.as a con artist,"

As for the cross, I'm sure it is a prop for Hubbard's psychological affinity appeal.

I'm pretty sure Scientology brib..., er, made a big donation to Clinton to get their religious tax status.

15 posted on 07/02/2012 9:51:39 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: a fool in paradise
Poor little clams.

Snap! Snap! Snap!

16 posted on 07/02/2012 9:56:32 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
You know you're in the presence of true Scientology debunkers when the jabs about clams start.

Bravo.

17 posted on 07/02/2012 10:08:02 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Egon

Think time share on steroids... with bouncers stationed at the door.

They scared the you know what about of me, and that was during my very gullible and trusting phase.


18 posted on 07/02/2012 10:13:35 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Running in circles and screaming is not a strategy.)
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To: Scoutmaster
Huh???

You telling me that post didn't cause your jaws to involuntarily clench?

You weren't overcome with nightmares of being rolled around mercilessly in the surf?

Oh NOOOO!!!

But ...

OZ, the Great and Powerful ElRon said so!!!

19 posted on 07/02/2012 10:46:02 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Or Great Expectations Dating Service.


20 posted on 07/02/2012 11:03:52 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: Scoutmaster

Okay, I have to claim ignorance here. What is the deal with the clams?


21 posted on 07/02/2012 11:45:45 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Scoutmaster; Army Air Corps
What is the deal with the clams?

I'd like to know, too -- and I don't want to go research it on the Internet in case they send aura-control worms back to my computer.

I mean, look how well L. Ron's theories have worked out for Cruise and Travolta.

22 posted on 07/02/2012 11:57:05 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: Army Air Corps
ElRon says we're all descended from extraterrestrial clams ... we're loaded with inherited memories of rolling around in the surf, snapping our shells open and closed. It's the source of endless psychic misery ...

"Bollocks!!!" says I ...

23 posted on 07/02/2012 1:24:13 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Albion Wilde; Army Air Corps; ArrogantBustard
Part of an early book in which Hubbard taught his Scientologist testers how to make a point with 'non-clears' asked them to think of engrams of clams - and how there was a continual battle between the force to open the clam shell and the force to close the clam shell.

He claimed that if a tester would make a tiny 'clam' with their thumb and forefinger and rapidly open and close it, many or most non-clears would react violently at the engram. It would be too disturbing for a non-clear to watch a Scientologist's little finger 'clam' to open and close.

He claimed many non-clears would suffer severe jaw pain from watching, pain that could last several days.

As a result, former Scientologists and those who debunk Scientology refer to Scientologists as 'clams' and a gathering to discuss Scientologists or a website about issues with Scientologists as a 'clambake.'

Scientologists are not humored by being called clams.

24 posted on 07/02/2012 2:16:53 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster
former Scientologists and those who debunk Scientology refer to Scientologists as 'clams' and a gathering to discuss Scientologists or a website about issues with Scientologists as a 'clambake.'

O.M.G. Hubbard was even loonier than I remember. That summer of '69, when the moon landing and Woodstock happened, the Beatles released Abbey Road, and Gloria Steinem was just gearing up, I read Dianetics while waiting for my husband to complete basic training.

Crazy as things were, with riots in the streets, Nixon in the White House and Army officers who had been drafted distributing LSD and marijuana around Fort Benning out of resentment, I thought Scientology was a pantload.

25 posted on 07/02/2012 10:47:22 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: Albion Wilde; Army Air Corps; ArrogantBustard
The way I understand the 'descended from clams' story is slightly different from ArrogantBustard's understanding.

In 1952, Hubbard wrote a book called 'What To Audit,' later renamed 'The History Of Man.' In the introduction Hubbard claims he will prove 60 or 70 trillion years of evolution. At some point in our past, per Hubbard, we're descended from clams. The whole 'volcanoes blown up by atomic bombs scattering engrams' had taken place before that, so some engrams were in the clams, tormenting them with the 'open, close' bit. Those engrams are still around, in those of us who aren't 'clear' because they were in clams and we're descended from clams.

So be careful not to let any auditing Scientologists rapidly snap his or her little finger clams open and closed around you.

By the way, most engrams that aren't currently in bodies are in processing plants on Mars, per Scientology. However, there is one Martian out-of-body engram processing plan in the Pyrenees.

Yep. I don't know if Tom Cruise has visited it yet.

26 posted on 07/03/2012 11:41:52 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Scoutmaster
Hmmm .... My take on it was that the "open/close" engram was the inherent conflict of being a clam ... and that the thetans that got attached to the clams from which we're descended got stuck with those engrams just from being a clam.

Or something.

I'm sober, right now ...

Scientology makes a lot more sense when I'm at that stage of drunkenness one drink short of passing out ...

I haven't been that drunk for a LONG time.

27 posted on 07/03/2012 11:53:17 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
I think the problem is we both strive for rational thought. Ergo, we're handicapped when it comes to trying to explain Scientology.

However the clam explanation goes, it's nuts.

And little snapping finger clams don't bother me in the least. Does that prove I'm clear, without paying for it?

28 posted on 07/03/2012 12:01:33 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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Does that prove I'm clear,

How would I know? I'm sober!

Ask me some time when I sloppy, stinking, staggering, puking, falling-down, almost passed out drunk ...

I can't guarantee a comprehensible answer, though ...

I can't even guarantee that I'll ever be in that condition again ... I don't like being hung-over.

29 posted on 07/03/2012 12:28:10 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Scoutmaster
The way I understand the 'descended from clams' story is slightly different from ArrogantBustard's understanding....


Unbelievable.

Literally.

30 posted on 07/03/2012 6:58:47 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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