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Historic father and son ordination: “A great moment in the history of our faith”
Deacon's Bench ^ | July 1, 2012 | Deacon Greg Kandra

Posted on 07/02/2012 2:25:04 PM PDT by NYer

It’s believed to be the first time in the U.S. that a father and son have been ordained at the same Mass.

Details:

“Charles Albert Hough the III.”

Bishop Kevin Vann’s historic words rang out at St. Elizabeth Ann Seton Catholic Church in Keller as he called first the father… and then the son.

“Charles Albert Hough the IV.”

Both answered the call before a big congregation during a one-of-its-kind ordination.

“Oh, this is a great moment in the life of our family — a great moment in the history of our faith,” said the elder Hough.

The father-and-son duo — who both go by “Chuck” — are among six Episcopal priests who became Catholic priests at the Saturday morning ceremony.

The Vatican started to let married Episcopal priests be ordained in the Catholic church 20 years ago.

The wives of both Chuck Hough III and IV both proudly looked on during the service.

“It’s been a blessing… a miraculous blessing to be ordained with my son,” said the elder Father Chuck. “The first time in the history of the United States a father and son has ever been ordained at the same Mass.”

It was a special ceremony for more reasons than one. The political rift between Anglicans and Catholics is on the mend.

“It’s a day in great history, because really — in some ways — it’s sort of mending the break that occurred in the reformation years ago,” Bishop Vann said. “It’s very historical.”

The Houghs say the controversy in the Episcopal church over gay and female priests did not drive them away. It was all about unity that made them turn to priesthood and Catholicism. And accomplishing this feat together only added to the excitement.

“We were absolutely delighted, and I’m very honored to have been ordained a Catholic priest with my father… a man I’ve respected my entire life,” said the junior Father Chuck.

Read more here and here.

Congratulations and welcome — and ad multos annos!

And prayerful good wishes, too, to your wives!


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: episcopal

1 posted on 07/02/2012 2:25:13 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 07/02/2012 2:26:15 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer
Very good news.Now if only *all* married men would be eligible for the priesthood....

(No,I'm not trying to start anything...just thinking out loud)

3 posted on 07/02/2012 3:31:18 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: Gay State Conservative

you must not be Catholic.


4 posted on 07/02/2012 3:35:37 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: LurkingSince'98
you must not be Catholic.

Wrong.A (very) imperfect one to be sure but Catholic nevertheless.

5 posted on 07/02/2012 3:47:32 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: LurkingSince'98
you must not be Catholic.

And BTW,no,I don't support abortion...or homosexual "marriage" or.....

6 posted on 07/02/2012 3:49:21 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: Gay State Conservative

when you were young maybe you missed in the Catechism of the Catholic Church the part about the priests being celibate.

1579 All the ordained ministers of the Latin Church, with the exception of permanent deacons, are normally chosen from among men of faith who live a celibate life and who intend to remain celibate “for the sake of the kingdom of heaven.”70 Called to consecrate themselves with undivided heart to the Lord and to “the affairs of the Lord,”71 they give themselves entirely to God and to men. Celibacy is a sign of this new life to the service of which the Church’s minister is consecrated; accepted with a joyous heart celibacy radiantly proclaims the Reign of God.72

sooooooo.. you may actually be protestant if you really believe that, maybe you will fit in better with the Episcopalians.

Lurking’


7 posted on 07/02/2012 4:15:10 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: LurkingSince'98; Gay State Conservative

Married men seeking ordination to the Priesthood have 21 Churches in the Eastern Rites to choose from.


8 posted on 07/02/2012 4:43:36 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: LurkingSince'98
sooooooo.. you may actually be protestant if you really believe that, maybe you will fit in better with the Episcopalians.

And yet there are more than a few men in this country (and elsewhere,I suspect) today who are officially recognized as Roman Catholic priests...priests who vow obedience to Rome...and who are married.But the funny thing is that most of them were once Anglicans and felt they didn't fit in so perhaps you're incorrect regarding where I might or might not feel most comfortable.

I'm curious about one thing...do recognize the "validity" of the ordination of the two men mentioned in this piece? As my previous post suggests I do.

9 posted on 07/02/2012 6:22:54 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: LurkingSince'98; Gay State Conservative

Lurking:

The citation from the CCC you site clearly states “normally chosen from among men of faith who live a celibate life”. Notice the word “normally” There is nothing wrong with thinking a married priesthood should be the norm for priests who minister in parishes. However, one should not challenge the authority of the Pope and the Bishops and get involve in protests and dissident movements to make ones feelings known.

Holding an opinion, as long as it does not result in dissident actions and schismatic activities [think LCWR nuns and groups like Call to Action] does not make one an unfaithful Catholic.

Catholics of the Latin Rite need to learn to be more charitable and careful with statements regarding the married priesthood as the sui juris Eastern Catholic Churches have married priests as do the Eastern Orthodox, which the same CCC says have all of the valid 7 sacraments/Divine Mysteries and thus a valid sacerdotal priesthood.

And for the record, I am a Catholic of the Roman/Latin Rite.


10 posted on 07/02/2012 6:44:34 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: NYer

Bishop Vann, unlike some bishops, has been aggressively training priests. Young and old, the seminarians are much more interesting than the often callow young men of sixty years ago.


11 posted on 07/02/2012 6:49:02 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Gay State Conservative; LurkingSince'98
I am a Roman Catholic practicing my faith in the Maronite (Eastern) Catholic Church. Like many other Eastern Catholic Churches, the Maronites allow for a married priesthood (but not in the diaspora). Speaking to the 11th General Synod Fathers, gathered for their eighth meeting in October 2005 at the Vatican, Cardinal Nasrallah Pierre Sfeir, who was then Patriarch of Antioch of the Maronites in Lebanon (he stepped down last year at age 90), addressed the topic of married priests.

While pointing out that "the Maronite Church admits married priests" and that "half of our diocesan priests (in Lebanon) are married", the Cardinal Patriarch said that "it must be recognized that if admitting married men resolves one problem, it creates others just as serious."

"A married priest", he said, "has the duty to look after his wife and family, ensuring his children receive a good education and overseeing their entry into society. ... Another difficulty facing a married priest arises if he does not enjoy a good relationship with his parishioners; his bishop cannot transfer him because of the difficulty of transferring his whole family.

He noted that "married priests have perpetuated the faith among people whose difficult lives they shared, and without them this faith would no longer exist."

"On the other hand," he said, "celibacy is the most precious jewel in the treasury of the Catholic Church,"
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Our parish is very small (70 active families) and the cost of maintaining a celibate priest is already a stretch. Fortunately, we are most blessed to have a young (34 y/o) Maronite monastic missionary as a spiritual guide. Several other young priests from his community serve various parishes across the US. Our pastor also volunteers his services to the local RC ordinary who has granted him Latin Rite faculties to say mass during the week at a priestless parish to consecrate a sufficient number of hosts for their weekend services. He also says mass at a local catholic hospital, all while attending to the needs of his own parish. Were he married, this would not be possible.

12 posted on 07/03/2012 6:09:53 AM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

I’m curious I the wives’ permission were sought before this Ordinarion, as it’s required for permanant (married) deacons.


13 posted on 07/03/2012 9:04:08 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Hi GSC
Sorry it took so long to get back.

and yes we do accept the validity, not only accept it but through that ordination we just fully and forever joined them to the Roman Catholic Church.

Lurking’


14 posted on 07/04/2012 4:15:14 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: NYer

Why are they doing a Buddhist bow in a Catholic church?

15 posted on 07/04/2012 4:25:10 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: CTrent1564

Hi Council,

Yes we should be more charitable to fellow Catholics who hold views contrary to the Pope, doctrine and CCC.

Just saying, it would be easy to be more charitable to them if they were protestant.

If your a RC and you are in for a penny you are in for a pound.

The RCC Love It or Leave It.

Lurking


16 posted on 07/04/2012 4:29:10 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: Jess Kitting

They are laying prostrate before the Bishop and our Lord in submission to and acceptance of their authority and Love.

Lurking


17 posted on 07/04/2012 4:32:29 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: LurkingSince'98
An interesting ritual. This is the first time I've seen it used in a Christian setting.
18 posted on 07/04/2012 4:43:27 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: LurkingSince'98

LurkingSince’98:

Obviously, you don’t know the difference between Dogma/Doctrine and Discipline. Celibacy is not a Doctrine, and as I said, someone could think that a Married Clergy is the way to go for Parish Priests. Again, all of the sui juris Eastern Catholic Churches, who are in Full Communion with Rome, have Married parish priests. Monks, Religous Orders and Bishops are celibate. So in the Eastern Church, both celibate and Married Clergy are ordained.

Pope Benedict, as Pope John Paul II, as Pope Paul VI as the Council of Florence in 1442, etc, have worked for the reunion of the Catholic and Orthodox Church. And in case you have not gotten the memo, the Eastern Orthodox Church has Married Priests. At no time has Rome ever stated that the Eastern Orthodox Priesthood is invalid because they have Married Priests. To the contrary, the Catholic Church clearly states that the Eastern Orthodox have “all seven sacraments” just as the Catholic Church as.

So again, nothing regarding Celibacy is “Doctrine” so before you go on a tanget and calling people dissident or heretical for thinking the Church should ordain more married men, you should study the issue of clerical celibacy.

What Holy Mother Church allows is permissable and it is obvious that Rome has “given dispensations of the clerical discipline of celibacy” in the case of former Anglicans who came into full communion with Rome. And again, all 21 of the sui Juris Eastern Catholic Churches [Maronite, Syro-Malakabar, Ukranian-Catholic, have married Priests and as I said before, the Eastern Orthodox do as well.

Now again, I do not believe Catholics should challenge the Pope on the matter of “celibacy” Even though it is not a Doctrine, it is something that Rome maitains is the “norm for Catholic Priests in the Roman Rite” and therefore is to be considered a teaching of the ordinary magesterium but that at the same time does not make it a definitive Doctrine or Dogma such as the Incarnation, Trinity, Paschal Mystery, etc.


19 posted on 07/04/2012 5:58:15 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: Jess Kitting

Source?


20 posted on 07/04/2012 6:50:20 AM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: CTrent1564
Hi Council,

au contraire, I do know the difference and can make the distinction, however you are concerning yourself with the wrong person.

I know and accept the primacy of the Pope and respect and practice the faith in its fullest meaning, even though it is extremely difficult.

The gentleman, who I addressed my comments, is emblematic the the Catholics who also “feel” uncomfortable with women not have the right to choose, who “feel” OK about the lapse in Church attendance, about never going to reconciliation, and on and on.

I did not call the gentlemen a dissident or accuse him of being heretical (as you suggest), I merely suggested, being uncomfortable as his is, he would likely be more comfortable being a protestant, particularly as an Episcopalian.

Being that the father and son priests were formerly Episcopalians, I thought the irony was delicious and couldn't resist.

Obviously you missed irony in apologetics school.

Regards,
Lurking’

21 posted on 07/04/2012 6:56:43 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: LurkingSince'98

LurkingSince:

Ok, my bad then, I thought the debate was over celibacy and Married Priests. If the debate is over the question of abortion, then that becomes a whole different question as obviously the Catholic CHurch’s teaching on abortion is a Definitive teaching of Catholic Moral Theology.

And I agree, lapse Church attendance is not good and one should go to the sacrament of COnfession for delibarately choosing not to go to Sunday Mass.

I thought the whole issue was regarding the ordination of the Father and Son, both married men, to the Catholic priesthood and not these other issues.

So my bad on this one.


22 posted on 07/04/2012 7:03:58 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: LurkingSince'98; Gay State Conservative

Lurking:

Now on the other hand, if I read post #2 and #3 correctly, and your post where you cited the CCC regarding celibacy, one could come to the conclusion that the entire discussion was indeed about celibacy and married priests and not the issues of abortion, missing Mass, Confession etc, as you say in your last post.

So perhaps as someone who got the “irony in apologetics school”, you can help out as to what is the point of debate between you and the gentlemen you addressed your comments to. After re-reading the thread, it does appear to simple ole me that it was regarding the question of ordination of married men to the Catholic Priesthood vs. celibacy.


23 posted on 07/04/2012 7:12:17 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: CTrent1564
Hi C,

I've got to go - taking the kids to a tractor pull - no kidding however...

the way the gentleman brought it up is so typical of way a huge chunk of semi-Catholics or CINOs believe..

as I said emblematic of the larger problem. I wish them farewell for the greener less demanding pastures they desire.

Have a great 4th,
Lurking’

24 posted on 07/04/2012 8:21:01 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: LurkingSince'98

LurkingSince:

Ok my friend, no harm no foul. Hope you and your family enjoy the 4th of July Holiday.


25 posted on 07/04/2012 8:43:04 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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