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To: pastorbillrandles; Titanites; Eleutheria5; jjotto; Zionist Conspirator
I'm sorry, but your statement The Edomite Kingdom was defeated by David and Saul and made subject to Judah for centuries as a vassal state. They would play a role in the destruction of the temple by Nebuchadnessar, rising up against their former rulers, cutting off escape routes and openly gloating in the destruction of the Jewish people.

Eventually they intermarried with the Ishmaelites, and Midianites, and Moabites, and comprise much of the Middle Eastern Arabs.

is wrong

Do read Maccabees to see the historical facts of what happened to the Idumeans. The Maccabees who fought against the Seleucids conquered the Edomites/Idumeans and forcibly converted them to Judaism.

Herod the Great was an Idumean and the Idumeans and Judeans became one people. Many Idumeans perished in the Jewish uprising and the remainder became one with the Judean people to be henceforth known as Jews

The Edomite nation hence perished

in the meanwhile their land was taken over by the Nabateans who had moved into Edom (when the Israelites were taken away by Nebuchadnezzar, the Edomiates moved in and the Nabateans took over Edom's former territory)

11 posted on 07/09/2012 12:35:08 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

The point is that Esau and Jacob (and Ishmael) are spiritual essences, not just what happened to DNA.

So if the Edomite kingdom perished, it’s spiritual essence essence will too.


15 posted on 07/09/2012 4:11:22 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Cronos

Just curious: Has the prophecy of Obadiah been fulfilled?


16 posted on 07/09/2012 4:14:22 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Cronos

Thanks Cronos. I should have said that the Edomite Kingdom was subjugated by David, ( 2 Samuel 8) maintained in subjection by Saul, and only remained as a vassal state until the reign of Jehoram,(2 Kings 8). I am going to devote another article in this series to
Edom in particular, in which I speak of the Herods, and the record of the Maccabees, and the prophecies of Ezekiel and Obadiah. According to Balaam’s prophecy, the struggle against the Edomites continues to the very end of time.


18 posted on 07/09/2012 6:38:57 AM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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To: Cronos
Do read Maccabees to see the historical facts of what happened to the Idumeans.

1)The Books of the Maccabees are not canonical scripture and were not written under the influence of Ruach HaQodesh. The Scriptural canon had already been closed by the 'Anshei-HaKenesset HaGedolah.

2)The Books of the Maccabees are part of the chrstian "old testament," and as all good chrstians know are not to be interpreted literally. They are poetic fugues of a primitive people who thought the earth was flat and that it was alright to kill Canaanites. Is this not so?

22 posted on 07/09/2012 12:00:51 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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