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What Do Mormons Believe about Salvation? [Ankerberg Show]
Lightsource.com ^ | July 8, 2012

Posted on 07/09/2012 5:43:41 AM PDT by Colofornian

When Mormons say Jesus is the Savior of the world, do they mean the same thing Christians do? Is salvation the same thing in Mormonism as it is in Christianity? Jesus said, "I am the way the truth and the life and no man cometh unto the father but by me." So, in other words, a person's eternal destiny rides on choosing the right way.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Ministry/Outreach; Other non-Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: antichristian; inman; lds; mormon; salvation; savior
This is a 28 1/2 minute program featuring John Ankerberg.

In light of ABC's (last) Friday night special on heaven, an interesting unique look at Mormon beliefs on this subject can be found at this thread: THE TOP TEN MOST SURPRISING 'MORMON TEACHINGS' ABOUT MORMON HEAVEN and AFTER-LIFE [Vanity]

1 posted on 07/09/2012 5:43:54 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
What do Moslems teach about salvation, since the Mormon is running against the Moslem?
2 posted on 07/09/2012 5:51:06 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Good question.
Why not start your own thread with that as the discussion question, this thread however is about mormonISM.


3 posted on 07/09/2012 6:09:30 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

.....also, try using the correct word for one of the faith, Muslim not Moslem.


4 posted on 07/09/2012 6:19:11 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
What do Moslems teach about salvation, since the Mormon is running against the Moslem?

(Start a Muslim thread on the subject and ping me; I'll be sure to inject a post there)

5 posted on 07/09/2012 6:21:19 AM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: zerosix; E. Pluribus Unum
Z you must have been trying to direct your comment to E. Pluribus Unum because I used neither word Muslim nor Moslem.
6 posted on 07/09/2012 6:25:57 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Colofornian

The only reason you are bringing up Mormonism is because one of the Presidential candidates is a Mormon, so acknowledgement of the Moslem alternative is apropos.


7 posted on 07/09/2012 6:26:01 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Colofornian

Mormons have multiple definitions of salvation.

Where Jesus is concerned, they believe He made it possible
through his sacrifice to ensure that all men could be physically resurrected... not necessarily re-united with the Father.

So salvation as Christians understand it is NOT salvation as Mormons understand it where Jesus is concerned.
But they will tell you these days that they believe Jesus saves us, and they are not lying... just using semantics
to convince christians that their faith is common.


8 posted on 07/09/2012 6:26:49 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Colofornian

Start your own thread on your apparent favorite subject then.
This is the Religion Forum and Colofornian has been exposing mormonISM for nearly a decade now.
My guess is you never cared until your candidate floated to the top.
So back to the question of the thread, What do Mormons Believe about Salvation?
Do you have a thought about that?


9 posted on 07/09/2012 6:29:41 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Colofornian
What do an increasing number of atheists believe about salvation?

What do agnostics believe about salvation?

What do all the people that call themselves Christian that kinda-sorta go to church believe about salvation?

How do questions like this provide us salvation from another four years of Obama?

10 posted on 07/09/2012 6:31:21 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: svcw

I don’t think Mormons believe they are going to get 72 virgins when they kill Dhimmis, do you?


11 posted on 07/09/2012 6:33:12 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Oh, good grief.
This is the Religion Forum and the question at hand is about mormonISM.
If you have other questions, why not start your own thread and ask the questions.


12 posted on 07/09/2012 6:33:52 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

this thread however is about mormonISM.

In a pigs eye.


13 posted on 07/09/2012 6:43:14 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita

Religion Forum - topic salvation in momronISM.
These threads have been posted for nearly a decade - well at least a pig can see that, why can’t you?


14 posted on 07/09/2012 6:50:28 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Colofornian
In light of ABC's (last) Friday night special on heaven

I saw just a little part of that and Joel Osteen seems to be changing his tune on how to get to Heaven, compared to what he told Larry King. If I didn't mis hear him, he told Barbara Walters that Jesus was the only way. If I heard right, then praise God, somebody must have schooled him a bit on the Bible.

I heard the mormon part too, more mush than I could stomach.

15 posted on 07/09/2012 6:56:19 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: zerosix

Shouldn’t that be Latter Day Saint instead of Mormon then?


16 posted on 07/09/2012 6:57:21 AM PDT by Ingtar ("As the light begins to fade in the city on the hill")
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To: svcw
Good grief, indeed.

You post this on a message board where we are constantly reminded of all of the deceptive methods that the MSM uses to advance its agenda.

Your claim that because Colofornia posted this as a Religion thread that it supposedly is only about religion is similarly highly suspect to me.

Do you really believe that FreeRepublic is a viable channel for recruiting new members to the LDS church? Is there a real need to challenge their beliefs? Or is this just some sort of personal ax you are grinding on FR?

My vote is for the latter.

17 posted on 07/09/2012 7:16:46 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
One thing which is going to allow me to hold my nose and vote for a Massachusetts RINO is knowing just how many of these rabid low-life bigots will go totally crazy if Romney makes it over the finish line.

In Mormon majority communities scattered thoughout the Rocky Mountain states, there are voters more conservative than just about anywhere else you can name in the U.S.A., crime rates far lower than comparable sized communities elsewhere, generally fiscally sound policies and educational achievement levels comparable to Jews and Episcopalians. Why do you suppose that is? People practicing a bad religion who just got lucky?

Bottom line is that if I want to know what Mormons (or, for that matter, Catholics or anybody else) believe, I'll look at their website, ask one, or view actual results. The last thing I'll do is ask some whiney, bed wetting bigot with an obvious agenda.

18 posted on 07/09/2012 7:18:20 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear; Colofornian

I will write this slowly.
This is the Religion Forum and this is a religious discussion.
Colofornia has been posting in the Religion Forum for nearly a decade exposing mormoISM.
If you were unaware before today, that is on you.
For you to beleive that is some kind of MSM conspiracy is laughable.
Yes, I do beleive that exposing mormonISM is important.
I beleive God Almighty when He commanded us to call out false prophets and false teachings.
If you have a problem with His Word, talk to Him about it, until then I support Colofornian and the rest of the posters who work to expose mormonISM for it’s false teachings and false prophets.
If you are not interested in the discussion don’t get on the Religion Forum - it’s that simple.


19 posted on 07/09/2012 7:32:16 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Vigilanteman
wow.

Religion Forum religious discussion and yet..... To bad you did not win the daily prize for new phrase, but you still might make the weekly win with so many new words this week: whiney, bed wetting bigot with an obvious agenda.

Just as a side note, the exposure of mormonISM is using their own words. Oh, yea and your perception of mormon communities, well is just wrong.

And their is an agenda exposure of mommonISM, as God Almighty commanded - call out false teachings and prophets.

20 posted on 07/09/2012 7:38:55 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Vigilanteman
I remember when JFK was running for President and there was all the manufactured anxiety about the Pope running the country.

Now it's the Mormon bishops.

SSDD.

21 posted on 07/09/2012 7:39:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; svcw
What do Moslems teach about salvation, since the Mormon is running against the Moslem?

You can find the answer to what mormons teach about muslims at your mormon university website, BYU:

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Long before the events of September 11, 2001, BYU Studies began working on this special issue focusing on Islam. The authors and editors who worked on this issue have tried to capture the spirit of a religion that provides guidance to the lives of millions of people worldwide. The ever expanding influence of Islam extends to the prominent and often controversial role that Islam plays in contemporary politics. In addition, Muslim theology, scripture, art, science, and communal values have made significant contributions to world civilization. And in quiet yet significant ways, dialogue and contact between Latter-day Saints and Muslims have increased. Consequently, the editors of BYU Studies believe an issue devoted to Islam will increase understanding and allow for continued dialogue and friendship between members of the two faiths. But for such a journey to be successful, one must first understand the basic features of Islam."

Link

22 posted on 07/09/2012 8:00:12 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You must have been asleep for a while, Mormonism has been brought up here for a tick longer than Mitt has been in the running...
23 posted on 07/09/2012 8:01:24 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Mormon
Muslim
Israel

Each word has six letters - 666

Mormonism
Muslimism
Israelite
Salvation
Mohammad

Each word has 9 letters - 999

So:

666
999

Mormons can only achieve salvation by becoming Israeli Muslims and worshipping the devil.

Heck, I thought everyone knew this?


24 posted on 07/09/2012 8:05:10 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: svcw; zerosix
Z you must have been trying to direct your comment to E. Pluribus Unum because I used neither word Muslim nor Moslem.

That's correct, svcw.

25 posted on 07/09/2012 8:38:29 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The only reason you are bringing up Mormonism is because one of the Presidential candidates is a Mormon, so acknowledgement of the Moslem alternative is apropos.

(Do you use a Magic 8-ball to judge internal motivations, or a pet rock -- a modern urim & thummim?)

26 posted on 07/09/2012 8:41:25 AM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear; svcw; E. Pluribus Unum; SZonian; SENTINEL
Your claim that because Colofornia posted this as a Religion thread that it supposedly is only about religion is similarly highly suspect to me. Do you really believe that FreeRepublic is a viable channel for recruiting new members to the LDS church? Is there a real need to challenge their beliefs? Or is this just some sort of personal ax you are grinding on FR?

#1 common courtesy is that when you mention a poster's name, you ping them inclusively.

You didn't...I guess some things aren't so common, anymore.

#2...You & E. Pluribus Unum need to get your magic 8-balls or pet rocks together to compare internal motivatiion judging devices.

I don't own an axe to even grind!

I'm a descendent of one who was an Lds bishop just like Mitt! Mitt and I are both descendents of Lds polygamists! I have many Lds relatives; love them dearly. They've never soured me on anything but their "ISM."

As for your viable channel Q, what makes an online forum any easier or harder than your average doorbell those 55,000 Lds missionaries ring every day?

As for Mormons-who-became Christians via the Holy Spirit using FR...ask ex-Mormons Szonian and Sentinel!!! They use to oppose some of the things we Inmans said in Romney threads back in late '07-early '08.

And are your beliefs so eclectic-jumbled that they run so close together that you aren't capable of challenging others' beliefs -- or you somehow feel the need to try to put a leash on others who do? What does that say about your own "beliefs?"

27 posted on 07/09/2012 8:51:49 AM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I remember when JFK was running for President and there was all the manufactured anxiety about the Pope running the country.

Now it's the Mormon bishops.

Exactly. Which is why these whiney little libtards may actually provide the margin of victory necessary to drag Romney reluctantly across the finish line.

Every time they spout their idiotic nonsense, just about every fence sitting Catholic and reasonable Protestant is going to vote for Romney as a means to stick it to them.

And I say drag Romney reluctantly across the finish line for exactly that reason.

I still believe he is the designated loser just like McCain was. But by being forced to win, he is going to have to make good choices which I believe his supporters and religious background will push him into making.

30 posted on 07/09/2012 10:10:13 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: P-Marlowe
BTTT in before P-Marlowe ;^)
31 posted on 07/09/2012 10:41:10 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Colofornian
The hallmark of Christian belief is that Jesus shed His blood to save us from our sinfulness. If MormonISM and Christianity were the same vane, then the following teaching from an LDS inc leadership icon would not have been taught and faithfully archived in the LDS inc Journal of Discourses:

"We may talk of men being redeemed by the efficacy of his [Christ's] blood; but the truth is that that blood has no efficacy to wash away our sins. That must depend upon our own action." [ LDS Apostle Amasa M. Lyman, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p. 299, 1859]

And there are many many more blasphemies where that came from. MormonISM apologists tried to tell us the Journal of Discourses was not central to their ISM, when they found they could not explain the heresies being taught in their ISM. MormonISM is not Christianity, not even close.

32 posted on 07/09/2012 10:47:41 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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MormonISM is not Christianity, not even close.

Who is the most visible and recognizable adherent to the ISM known as MormonISM?

It used to be Donny and Marie Osmond. They were the point men in the LDS Propaganda network for decades.

Today who is the point man for the LDS Propaganda machine?

When the average person today thinks of MormonISM, who do they think of as the personification of the Mormon Church?

33 posted on 07/09/2012 11:19:59 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe

Harry Reid?


34 posted on 07/09/2012 11:54:27 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
Harry Reid?

Don't you wish?

Answer the question HONESTLY.

We both know who it is.

35 posted on 07/09/2012 12:09:55 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: svcw

Correct, I should have posted to the original poster not to your comment.


36 posted on 07/09/2012 12:28:59 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Really?
I was around when Kennedy was running and no one cared he was Catholic.
There was more talking about his philandering than anything else.
Oh, and it is about mormonISM, just encase you missed that, and why not this is the Religion Forum.


37 posted on 07/09/2012 12:45:32 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: zerosix

NP, I have done the same myself. Once I even posted a reply on the wrong thread, which really confused the person who got the post.
Have a good day.


38 posted on 07/09/2012 12:47:24 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Colofornian
Your door bell get rang every day. That means that each missionary gets to ring it 1923.076923076923 tines. Send some here and take a brake. one would think the law of averages would get my door bell or my neighbors door bell rang once in a life time.
39 posted on 07/09/2012 12:49:38 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: Colofornian
Your door bell get rang every day. That means that each missionary gets to ring it 1923.076923076923 tines. Send some here and take a brake. one would think the law of averages would get my door bell or my neighbors door bell rang once in a life time.
40 posted on 07/09/2012 12:49:42 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: BlueMoose
That would mean the door bell rings every ten minutes. I can see where that would be annoying.
41 posted on 07/09/2012 12:55:25 PM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All
"What do Moslems teach about salvation, since the Mormon is running against the Moslem?"

In point of fact what does this have to do with the price of tea in China?

Religious bigots need to remove their collective heads out of that place where the sun doesn't shine, and worry more about the continued demise of the capitalist system and the emergence of a system where people are told from cradle to grave :

  • what they can and can not do,
  • eat or don't eat,
  • believe or not believe,
  • respect or not respect their mother and father,
  • when to report on the activities of their relatives,
  • when to report on the activities of their teachers,
  • when to report on the activities of their classmates,
  • when to report on the activities of their neighbors, and
  • when to report on the activities of their pastors.

42 posted on 07/09/2012 8:25:25 PM PDT by Robert Drobot (Fiat voluntas tua)
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To: BlueMoose
That would mean the door bell rings every ten minutes.


 

If you have cable TV, there won’t be much on to watch.


 

 

 

 

If there isn’t much on to watch, you will answer your door whenever someone rings.


 

 

 

 

If you open your door, you will see mormons.


 

 

 

 

If you talk to mormons, they will trick you into “praying about whether something is true”.


 

 

 

 

If you rely on your feelings, you may become a mormon.


 

 

 

 

If you become a mormon, you will have to wear magic underwear!


 

 

 

 

If you wear magic underwear, people will immediately label you as a cultist.


DON’T be a cultist!
Get DirectTV.

43 posted on 07/10/2012 7:09:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: svcw
NP, I have done the same myself. Once I even posted a reply on the wrong thread, which really confused the person who got the post.

Some years back, when my grand daughter lived here, she too had an account at F.R., she left her account logged in one day and I, without realizing it, started posting under her very obviously feminine screen name. All went well until in one of my replies I happened to mention "my wife". Now that's confusion.

44 posted on 07/10/2012 11:23:03 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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