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BOOK UNDERSCORES MYSTERIOUS COINCIDENCES THAT ABOUND AROUND 9/11, WALL STREET CRASH (The Harbinger)
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Posted on 07/10/2012 4:15:54 PM PDT by Salvation

BOOK UNDERSCORES MYSTERIOUS COINCIDENCES THAT ABOUND AROUND 9/11 AND WALL STREET CRASH

When the World Trade Center was attacked in 2001, we had quite a few articles about the potential prophetic import, including the significance of "towers" in the Bible (where they are often described as representing human arrogance).

Look at the very name: "world trade."

Indeed, we had articles leading up to the attack with warnings from Venezuelan mystic Maria Esperanza (who foresaw the event and whose cause for sainthood has been undertaken in the U.S.).

But nowhere did we see the connections now made in a brilliant book by a Christian Jew -- a "messianic" Jew -- named Jonathan Cahn, whose "novel" (it is described as a prophetic investigation based on fact and written in narrative fashion) has been on major bestseller lists, and for good reason.

Called The Harbinger, it is full of facts that are amazing (a narrative based on prophetic investigation).

Chiefly, the book focuses on snippets from the Old Testament that relate uncannily -- eerily -- to what happened that September day. Mainly, the passage is Isaiah 9:10: "The bricks have fallen, but we will rebuild with hewn stone; the sycamores have been cut down, but we will plant cedars in their place."

It is Cahn's contention that the World Trade Center was attacked due to our sinfulness -- including materialism -- and that instead of humbly moving forward, America acted as Israel did in the aforementioned passage -- that once the "bricks had fallen," and the sycamore "cut down," we defiantly vowed to rebuild bigger and stronger and taller and better than ever (precisely what transpired with construction of the Freedom Tower). Remarkably, politicians even quoted the Isaiah passage in the wake of 9/11 -- but out of context and not as a warning; rather, a vow of defiance; such vows in biblical times, says Cahn, led to more disaster).

When there is no other way to get through to us, asserts the author, God lifts His hedge of protection -- as he did in ancient Israel (allowing enemies to enter).

"Most would see the tragedy as a matter of defense, national security, or foreign policy," says a mysterious prophetic stranger in the narrative. "They committed themselves to making sure it would never happen again. They fortified their defenses, strengthened their walls, and formed strategic alliances. Few of them pondered the possibility that there could be any deeper significance behind it. And yet the voices of their prophets, the words in their Scriptures, and an uneasy stirring in their hearts were all warning them that something was wrong. The nation had departed from God. But apart from the prophets, few realized the critical line they had crossed and the new and dangerous era they had entered. No political or military power would be strong enough to ensure their safety; only a return to God. The attack was a warning and a harbinger of judgment."

Just as occurred in ancient times -- centuries B.C. -- with Israel.

We were granted a period of grace after, but have blown it, argues this author (who works in the shadow of New York at Hope of the World Ministries in New Jersey). "Instead of listening to the alarm, instead of turning back, instead of even pausing for a moment to reexamine their ways, they boast of their resolve. It wasn't about rebuilding at all. It was about ignoring the warning and rejecting the call to return." More on that in a moment. Catholic prophets like Esperanza (who urged construction of a church -- not a new building -- at Ground Zero, and who warned that our response to 9/11 should be humility, not revenge) issued similar warnings.

But first, consider: "bricks" did fall. Our modern bricks are steel and glass. In the middle of the ash and debris was found a large tree that had been knocked down.

Saint Paul's Churchyard in Manhattan by Edna BarneyAs in Isaiah, it was a sycamore (and became one of the symbols of 9/11). In its tangle of roots was a brick.

The tree was located on the property of St. Paul Chapel -- an old Episcopalian church that miraculously survived the mayhem though it was right across the street from the Trade Center.

It was at this church that George Washington prayed for the consecration and protection of our nation with members of Congress right after he was inaugurated nearby. It was later replaced -- just as in Isaiah -- by a type of cedar tree (known biblically as an "Erez" tree; known to the media after 9/11 as the "Tree of Hope," even though it was actually the opposite). "When you see the Erez Tree planted in the place of the fallen sycamore, it's an omen, a warning," says the prophet. An exhibit exists today inside the chapel, consisting of a policeman's uniform covered with police and firefighter patches sent from all over the country. "The church survived without even a broken window," notes St. Paul's website. "Church history declares it was spared by a miracle sycamore on the northwest corner of the property that was hit by debris. The tree's root has been preserved in a bronze memorial by sculptor Steve Tobin. The fence around the church grounds became the main spot for visitors to place impromptu memorials to the event." (We went there ourselves right after.)

"Had we been there on that day of inauguration, everything over there, everything beyond that point, would have been water," says the prophet, speaking in the book from the chapel's back door. "But between here and the water was a field... now known as Ground Zero... a field owned by a church. Ground Zero was originally church land."

"Owned by what church?" asks the narrator.

"The same that operated out of St. Paul's Chapel."

"So then it was, in essence, one property... as one ground?"

"As one ground," replied the stranger. "As one ground on the day America was consecrated there. Thus, it's not only that America's ground of consecration is at Ground Zero; America's ground of consecration is Ground Zero"!

The Founding Fathers had gathered to pray at what would become the site of a great disaster.

Who knew this! There may be some stretches in this book, but the coincidences are astounding: The biblical passage says the rebuilding would be with hewn stone, meaning from a quarry, known as a "gazit stone," and when rebuilding at Ground Zero progressed, the cornerstone ended up being a twenty-ton "gazit" stone from an Adirondack quarry! An ancient drama, argues Cahn, was reenacted at Ground Zero (for our discernment). Notes a commentary on the Isaiah passage: "That which God designs, in smiting us, is to turn us to himself and to set us seeking Him; and if this point be not gained by lesser judgments, greater may be expected..."

In fact, notes Cahn, 9/11 was followed seven years to the week by the beginnings of the collapse of the financial markets. In Scripture, the seventh year is given a name. It is called the Shemitah. Credit is cancelled and debt is wiped away -- as so many debts had to be cancelled in 2008, when the greatest financial crisis since the Great Depression occurred -- right there near the World Trader Center site and at another spot that figured into Washington's inauguration.

As in ancient times, the ground of consecration become the ground of judgment.

Indeed, the greatest single-day stock market crash point-wise was to take place on September 29, the twenty-ninth day of Elul, as it was known in ancient times -- the critical and crowning day of the Hebrew Shemitah.

It was at Federal Hall -- at Wall Street -- that George Washington took his oath of office (New York was the nation's first capital).

The question -- as we continue our defiance -- is what will occur next. (We hear the current president too speak of rebuilding, and quoting the Isaiah passage again!)

 A generally accepted version is that the name Wall Street was derived from an earthen wall on the northern boundary of the New Amsterdam settlement, perhaps to protect against English colonial encroachment or incursions by native Americans. Again: the idea of a breach.

"Here on Wall Street, George Washington took the oath of office as our first President, and this site was home to the first Congress, Supreme Court, and Executive Branch offices," says a government website about Federal Hall. "The current structure, a Customs House, later served as part of the U.S. Sub-Treasury. Now, the building serves as a museum and memorial to our first President and the beginnings of the United States of America."

Now, is there an idol -- a golden calf -- on Wall Street?

Many of the most important legislative actions in the United States occurred with the First Congress at Federal Hall. Foremost was adoption of the Bill of Rights to the U.S. Constitution; twelve amendments to the Constitution were initially drafted, ten were agreed upon, and on September 25, 1789, the United States Bill of Rights was adopted in Federal Hall. This we get by our own little brief Googling. The question now: Have we reckoned with the Wall Street fiasco? Do we really know why 9/11 was allowed to occur? Is it a coincidence that when its hedge was lifted, ancient Israel was attacked by Assyrians, in ancient times -- in Cahn's words (not ours) the masters of terror -- and that Assyrian blood may flow in the veins of Al Qaeda (Assyrians spread across the Mideast but were centered in the nation we would go to war with: Iraq; another coincidence).

Have we returned to Jesus?

Or are we bullheaded?

"As time passed, it appeared as if life was gradually returning to normal," said the prophet. "There was a respite, peace. With each passing year, it seemed as if the danger was farther behind them. But it was an illusion. The problem and the danger only increased. It was a period of grace, given to them in mercy, that they might change their course and avert the judgment. But if not, then a greater judgment would come, and that final breaching of their walls would be remembered as the harbinger that was the beginning of their fall. These were their most critical days.

"The nation that had long know blessing and security witnesses the failure of its defenses. Its walls of protection are broken through, its national security is breached, and its illusion of invincibility shattered. The day of the harbingers begin. America was the most blessed nation on earth, its blessings shielded by a powerful hedge of national protection. As its founders had foretold, if the nation followed the ways of God, it would be blessed not only with prosperity and power but also with peace and security."

And if it didn't?

"Its hedge of protection was removed, and its walls were breached."



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1 posted on 07/10/2012 4:16:07 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Salvation
For your discernment:

I have said all along that a church needed to be built on the land at Ground Zero -- and now we know why -- other than Esperanza's prediction.

"Had we been there on that day of inauguration, everything over there, everything beyond that point, would have been water," says the prophet, speaking in the book from the chapel's back door. "But between here and the water was a field... now known as Ground Zero... a field owned by a church. Ground Zero was originally church land."

"Owned by what church?" asks the narrator.


2 posted on 07/10/2012 4:17:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

This sounds like an excellent book.


3 posted on 07/10/2012 4:21:38 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

—This sounds like an excellent book.—

Google it. I was very interested until I read some reviews and the snippets on which the bad reviews focused their attention.

I’m not saying you shouldn’t read it, but “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”


4 posted on 07/10/2012 4:24:56 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

What were the comments?


5 posted on 07/10/2012 4:26:53 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Wasn’t there some mysterious short selling (in AMR, parent company of American Airlines iirc) on Monday 9/10? I never heard any more about it. I thought the SEC was looking at it.


6 posted on 07/10/2012 4:27:09 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Salvation

More than a few Muslims believe the Towers came down for our sins as well.


7 posted on 07/10/2012 4:27:09 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: cuban leaf

I’m seeing positive comments from Jewish as well as Christian sources.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Harbinger-ancient-mystery-Americas/dp/161638610X


8 posted on 07/10/2012 4:34:53 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I honestly don’t remember. This was posted a while back and I was extremely interested. But in the vein of “extraordinary claims...” I did some internet research. I may be too harsh here, but I put this in the arena of the Left behind books and the Mayan calender “end of the world in 2012” stuff.

Don’t get me wrong. I am a student of end times prophesy. But most books of this type end up crossing some hard line of credibility, at least for me. This was one of them.

But this is just my opinion. You need to decide for yourself.


9 posted on 07/10/2012 4:35:30 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Salvation

It was a good read; really got me to thinking about things of a spiritual nature. Reading through the bible, God does judge nations. Are we being judged? It sure looks like it, at least to me.


10 posted on 07/10/2012 4:36:07 PM PDT by bubbacluck (I'll pay more for tomatoes, thank you.)
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To: Salvation
When there is no other way to get through to us, asserts the author, God lifts His hedge of protection

So if that is the case, God worked through Clinton-era morons such as Jamie Gorelick?

I'm sorry, but the responsibility for 9-11 rests on Islamic extremism and the ghouls who carried out their vision for such.

11 posted on 07/10/2012 4:37:33 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: liege

I would completely agree.


12 posted on 07/10/2012 4:37:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Yeah, That is where I started too... ;-)

Here:

http://www.bibleprophecyblog.com/2012/03/book-review-harbinger-by-jonathan-cahn.html#


13 posted on 07/10/2012 4:45:54 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Salvation

This is a good review too:

http://modeletics.blogspot.com/2012/06/harbinger-summary_03.html

It is part of a series. They are embedded in the articles linked at the right side, oldest at the bottom of the list for June.


14 posted on 07/10/2012 4:50:32 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: liege

—Reading through the bible, God does judge nations. Are we being judged? It sure looks like it, at least to me.—

I agree, but I didn’t need this book to figure that out. ;-)


15 posted on 07/10/2012 4:52:03 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Salvation

This book cries out for Christian discernment. If you are born again I suggest you read “A Commentary on The Harbinger” from the Sola Sisters blog before you get carried away.

http://solasisters.blogspot.com/2012/06/commentary-on-harbinger.html


16 posted on 07/10/2012 5:01:11 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: cuban leaf

Thanks for that link. I always enjoy Gary Gilley’s reviews.


17 posted on 07/10/2012 5:04:57 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Salvation

Sorry:

Bronze bull =/= golden calf.

Disagree, I’ll sell you a crap-load of “gold” pipe fittings at half the gold spot-price.

This is mysticism, not Biblical prophecy.


18 posted on 07/10/2012 5:07:37 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Romney Sucks. Mutiny Now,!)
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To: ExGeeEye

What part didn’t you believe?

The Catholic Part?

The Bible Part?

The Episcopal Church land part that is now Ground Zero Part?


19 posted on 07/10/2012 5:09:58 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: dirtboy; Salvation
I'm sorry, but the responsibility for 9-11 rests on Islamic extremism and the ghouls who carried out their vision for such."

God used those who already wanted to destroy us. Just like He destroyed Babylon once He was finished using it to punish Israel, God will definitely destroy a large swath of the Mooze Lame world once He's done using them to punish the West.

Their destruction has already started, in fact. Look at all the huge finds of oil and natural gas being found all over the world outside of the Mooze Lame Crescent and how many countries are overthrowing their governments and shedding all connections to reality they've managed to build in the past hundred years. Egypt may be spared, but not much else if anything else.

The millions of rabid dogs will be slain, have no doubt about that.

20 posted on 07/10/2012 5:14:58 PM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: Rashputin

“God used those who already wanted to destroy us. Just like He destroyed Babylon once He was finished using it to punish Israel, God will definitely destroy a large swath of the Mooze Lame world once He’s done using them to punish the West.”

Scripture makes it clear that God raised nations for the express purpose of punishing Israel.


21 posted on 07/10/2012 5:20:20 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: cuban leaf
"....but I put this in the arena of the Left behind books and the Mayan calender “end of the world in 2012” stuff."

Those who believe that can stop worrying.

Mayan Calender DOES NOT END

22 posted on 07/10/2012 5:20:43 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: Salvation

The mysticuism part.

The magical mysrtery tree. (”Roll out..”)
Harbingers. Omens.
I already mentioned the not-golden not-calf.

All the prophecy that is mentioned has to do with Israel. We are not Israel. The United States does not appear in prophecy. That is, I believe (because of my eschatology) that the US will be so crippled by events at the end of the Church Age, it will be a third-rate nation— if retaining a national identity at all— through the remaining period.

Warnings are given to those who can alter the course of events. We are far beyond that and have been since before our very young nation’s founding. Since 30 AD, I believe— 70 at the latest.

All we have left— all, I believe, the Church has ever had— is to live out our salvation individually as best we can, and continue to spread the word of salvation— not of mysticism, not even of prophecy— to a world already under condemnation.

Prophecy is for the saved.

Mysticism is for the birds.

Thank you and good night.


23 posted on 07/10/2012 5:27:15 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Romney Sucks. Mutiny Now,!)
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To: Salvation

It is a very well written and interesting book .

Here is an interview of the author
http://www.tfc.org/sermon/message:america-and-biblical-prophecy

The next shemita is 2015


24 posted on 07/10/2012 5:28:39 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Salvation

We all need to be careful and discerning, so as not to be deceived:

http://www.thebereancall.org/content/harbinger-matter-critical-discernment

http://herescope.blogspot.com/2012/06/harbinger.html

http://www.worldviewweekend.com/worldview-radio/play.php?id=showsFlat-21580


25 posted on 07/10/2012 5:46:29 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: Rashputin
Egypt may be spared, but not much else if anything else.


Isaiah 19 is being fulfilled right before our eyes
Egypt is not being spared , they just elected their cruel master.

Isaiah 19 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+19&version=NKJV
Isaiah 19
King James Version (KJV)
19 The burden of Egypt. Behold, the Lord rideth upon a swift cloud, and shall come into Egypt: and the idols of Egypt shall be moved at his presence, and the heart of Egypt shall melt in the midst of it.
2 And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom.
3 And the spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.
4 And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the Lord of hosts.
5 And the waters shall fail from the sea, and the river shall be wasted and dried up.
6 And they shall turn the rivers far away; and the brooks of defence shall be emptied and dried up: the reeds and flags shall wither.
7 The paper reeds by the brooks, by the mouth of the brooks, and every thing sown by the brooks, shall wither, be driven away, and be no more.
8 The fishers also shall mourn, and all they that cast angle into the brooks shall lament, and they that spread nets upon the waters shall languish.
9 Moreover they that work in fine flax, and they that weave networks, shall be confounded.
10 And they shall be broken in the purposes thereof, all that make sluices and ponds for fish.
11 Surely the princes of Zoan are fools, the counsel of the wise counsellors of Pharaoh is become brutish: how say ye unto Pharaoh, I am the son of the wise, the son of ancient kings?
12 Where are they? where are thy wise men? and let them tell thee now, and let them know what the Lord of hosts hath purposed upon Egypt.
13 The princes of Zoan are become fools, the princes of Noph are deceived; they have also seduced Egypt, even they that are the stay of the tribes thereof.
14 The Lord hath mingled a perverse spirit in the midst thereof: and they have caused Egypt to err in every work thereof, as a drunken man staggereth in his vomit.
15 Neither shall there be any work for Egypt, which the head or tail, branch or rush, may do.
16 In that day shall Egypt be like unto women: and it shall be afraid and fear because of the shaking of the hand of the Lord of hosts, which he shaketh over it.
17 And the land of Judah shall be a terror unto Egypt, every one that maketh mention thereof shall be afraid in himself, because of the counsel of the Lord of hosts, which he hath determined against it.
18 In that day shall five cities in the land of Egypt speak the language of Canaan, and swear to the Lord of hosts; one shall be called, The city of destruction.
19 In that day shall there be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the Lord.
20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them.
21 And the Lord shall be known to Egypt, and the Egyptians shall know the Lord in that day, and shall do sacrifice and oblation; yea, they shall vow a vow unto the Lord, and perform it.
22 And the Lord shall smite Egypt: he shall smite and heal it: and they shall return even to the Lord, and he shall be intreated of them, and shall heal them.
23 In that day shall there be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians shall serve with the Assyrians.
24 In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land:
25 Whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance.

26 posted on 07/10/2012 5:53:13 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: .45 Long Colt

A thousand year old mystery........on how to get right with God? Sounds like a mish-mash of Jehovah’s Witnesses, Herbert W. Armstrong-ism and who knows what else?!

Here’s what’s needed: 2nd Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.


27 posted on 07/10/2012 6:38:55 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: Tucker39

Amen and Amen!


28 posted on 07/10/2012 6:42:53 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Tucker39

In the book, that scripture is the solution.


29 posted on 07/10/2012 6:47:03 PM PDT by bubbacluck (I'll pay more for tomatoes, thank you.)
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To: liege

“In the book, that scripture is the solution.”

Then he should have written a simple tract and left out all of the mystical gnosticism.


30 posted on 07/10/2012 6:56:30 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

Agreed. It did make for an interesting read, though.


31 posted on 07/10/2012 7:02:57 PM PDT by bubbacluck (I'll pay more for tomatoes, thank you.)
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To: Salvation

Isn’t it interesting also that the interview with Bill Ayers came out in the New York Times on 9/11? That’s the interview in which he said that the Weathermen should have done more. That had to be a coincidence.


32 posted on 07/10/2012 7:09:42 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Salvation

I have read The Harbinger and it is an excellent read.

I did not think I would like it, as the plot line seemed contrived, but as I read, I became intrigued.It drew me in and constructed a very plausible case for the spiritual roots of America and what may be in store for our country.

The role of St. Paul’s Church,on the first Presidential Inauguaration Day (April 30, 1789), where George Washington led the first Congress to a service of consecration immediately after his speech was amazing to learn.

Also amazing is that the steeple of St. Paul’s was originally on the front side of the church; the front entrance is now on Broadway, but that was origianlly the rear of the church; that is why the steeple appears to be on the rear of the church.

The church from the steeple side directly faces Ground Zero.

If you go to Google maps or Bing maps and look at an overhead view of St. Paul’s and Ground Zero, the whole premise of the book comes into very sharp focus.


33 posted on 07/10/2012 7:20:40 PM PDT by exit82
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To: liege

It does sound interesting. I’m just concerned about the mixing of truth and error. From what I’ve read, the author isn’t someone who should be trusted on theological matters.


34 posted on 07/10/2012 7:28:15 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

It is a novel based on fact.

I just read a novel that was pretty accurate with the fact — the displacement of the Japanese during World War II.

Story line was fiction, but the dates, etc. were factual.

From what I saw of the Catholic theology — it might not be something you agree with, but I have been saying — ever since 011 that Esperanza’s predictions should be followed.

I think she called for three small non-denominational churches to be built on the Ground Zero land, and if that plan was not followed, that it would be destroyed again.


35 posted on 07/10/2012 7:46:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: .45 Long Colt
My sister recommended it to me. On finishing the book, I came away with an overall awareness of the awful spiritual state the US is in, including the church. That the "fix" for the US is spiritual and not political.

This isn't anything new to most thinking people, myself included, but it did underscore that fact.

If the book only serves as another wake up call for anyone who would be listening, then it is worth the read. Read it with your "filter" on though. Only nine dollars on Kindle.

36 posted on 07/10/2012 7:50:21 PM PDT by bubbacluck (I'll pay more for tomatoes, thank you.)
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To: Steely Tom
Here you go

New scrutiny of airlines options deals

First two paragraphs:

"The Chicago Board Options Exchange said yesterday that it is looking into an unusual spike in trading in two airline stocks in advance of last week's terrorist attacks.

As reported in The Chronicle, options trading in the stocks of the parent companies of American and United airlines was unusually heavy in the three trading days prior to the attack."

37 posted on 07/10/2012 8:23:29 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Salvation
Bump

I have read this book 3X over. What is presented here can not be dismissed. If America ever needed to turn to God it is now. If we are to survived we need to humble ourselves before God Almighty and repent. One can not ignore the coincidences that line up exactly with God's word. Hopefully America will turn to God when we need Him the most.

38 posted on 07/10/2012 8:31:29 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: liege

**My sister recommended it to me. On finishing the book, I came away with an overall awareness of the awful spiritual state the US is in, including the church. That the “fix” for the US is spiritual and not political.**

Thanks for your frank discussion here.


39 posted on 07/10/2012 8:36:53 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Captain Beyond

You have read this book three times? Wow! I will get it, and recommend that everyone else does too.


40 posted on 07/10/2012 8:37:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
America was the most blessed nation on earth, its blessings shielded by a powerful hedge of national protection. As its founders had foretold, if the nation followed the ways of God, it would be blessed not only with prosperity and power but also with peace and security."

Our political problems are a reflection of the moral condition of the country, and of its individual people. And that is ultimately spiritual in nature. We obviously have to fight the political battles and we have to deal with the practical and military and financial realities we face but until we confront the fundamental moral and spiritual sickness the other problems are ultimately unsolveable.

The practical world and the spiritual one are not separate, the one is rooted in the other. I find as time goes on I am more and more impatient with political arguments when I see so clearly that the problem is of another kind.

41 posted on 07/10/2012 8:38:41 PM PDT by marron
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To: Salvation

oops

— ever since 911


42 posted on 07/10/2012 8:38:56 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Yeah the first time I read I was amazed. Then I had to read 2x and check the facts to make sure. This book is truly the real deal. So much of prophecy lined up it can not be ignore.

If anyone does not know Jesus as your personal savior now is the time to get to know him. Just say a smiple pray of “Jesus I am a sinner and I need your forgiveness.” this will began your journey to knowing a living, loving, God who does not forget.


43 posted on 07/10/2012 8:56:33 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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Salvation, don’t tell me you’re a ‘’9/11 truther’’, are you? Please, not you.


44 posted on 07/10/2012 9:18:52 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: dirtboy

The responsibility for 9/11 does not rest on “Islamic extremism’’ any more than the Holocaust rests on “Nazi extremism’’. It rests on Islam. Period.


45 posted on 07/10/2012 9:23:30 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Salvation

“the World Trade Center was attacked due to our sinfulness — including materialism”

This is crazy stuff.

We were attacked by evil men guided by a Satanic religion.

We were not attacked because we were sinful.

Otherwise God killed innocent victims on that day and made them choose between being burned alive or jumping 1,600 feet to their deaths.

We were not attacked by the Japanese in 1941 because we were sinful.

Every bad and evil thing that happens isn’t because God is punishing us. That is a stupid theology.

I blame the terrorist, not God.

If God acted like this, we would all be dead a long time ago.


46 posted on 07/10/2012 10:37:07 PM PDT by garjog
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To: liege

When a nation ignores God, they are turning away from His protections and blessings. History confirms this over and over. What is happening here in the USA (and other countries) is simply another example of that.

“Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.” — Alexander Solzhenitsyn


47 posted on 07/11/2012 4:50:21 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: marron

You see clearly.


48 posted on 07/11/2012 4:52:48 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Tucker39
Here’s what’s needed: 2nd Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

That is exactly the message he is giving in the book . The entire book is a call to repentance .
1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
49 posted on 07/11/2012 7:11:10 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Salvation

I have the book. Amazing!


50 posted on 07/11/2012 9:48:21 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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