The Elephant in the Room: Mitt’s Mormon Faith [Which is why one-third still don't know he's Lds]

ThyBlackMan.com ^ | July 10, 2012 | Kevin M. Jackson

[Colofornian]

From the article: If you remember during the 2008 Presidential election, there was a strong effort to try to expose the faith of then Senator Obama. Many tried to label him an extremist because of his connection with the Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright. I am curious to know if Mitt Romney will receive the same type of treatment given the lack of knowledge that most Americans have about the Mormon faith. I think that faith must be on the table since it was a factor in the previous election.

(But you don't understand, ThyBlackMan...faith was allowed to be on the table in '08 due to anti-Obama sentiment; but if you're anti-Romney, that = "anti-Mormon"...and the very same ones who had zero qualms about Zero's religious ties suddenly emerged as "Thou shalt keep religion to thyself" re: Romney.

From the article:

• The Mormon church has a very disappointing past of allowing blacks to become clergy men.

Well, this writer simply doesn't know that even 12 yr old boys become part of the Mormon "priesthood"...so Lds don't use "priesthood" as "clergy"...so in Mormonism -- while Mitt Romney was 31 years old -- a 12 yo white boy had more standing in the Mormon church than ANY black man. That boy could grow up to get married in the Mormon temple; no black man could. That boy could hold eventual "callings"; no black man could.

***************************** This mentions the polling data which say still a third of people don't know Romney is Mormon...http://www.mediaite.com/online/mitt-romney-is-a-mormon-get-over-it/

From the article: The Mormon faith teaches that God the Father was initially a regular man who had a wife and they both lived on a celestial planet. They conceived and produced celestial offspring which gave birth to spirits that created Jesus, the devil and mankind. Once babies are born, they receive one of these spirits. (Journal of Discourses Vol. 6 page 265)

(List for me the differences 'tween Mormonism and Scientology again)

Mormons do not believe in hell

(Clarification needed: Mormons believe in hell; just not eternal hell...which, when you consider a parallel of somebody who says they believe in heaven -- just not eternal heaven -- kind of amounts to the same thing)

[Colofornian]

From the article: Mormons believe that the gospel will be propagated through the Book of Mormon, not the bible. (Doctrines and Covenants section 10)

Yet, strangely, the Book of Mormon ISN'T the source for ALL kinds of key Lds teachings...yet the Doctrine & Covenants repeatedly claims the Book of Mormon contains the FULNESS of the Mormon gospel! Mormon "sacred" things not found in the Mormon "sacred" BoM:

1. Church organizational structure and titles of leaders [Hey, we don't need to provoke pagans into laughter by coming up with religious titles like the bishopric, do we?]
2. gods...plural [due to insistance by some FReeper Mormons that they only worship one godhead, a few FI have begun referencing that belief as polymonotheism]
3. Plurality of wives doctrine [Ah. Polymonogamy]
4. Word of Wisdom [I guess the people of South America weren't very wise about Brazilian coffee]
5. God is an exalted man [Who knew this facebook boy would make it big? Hmm...a god who worshiped his own god/gods once upon a time, eh?]
6. Celestial marriage [If you want to become an eternal polygamist, current Lds church policy says you can...just make sure you secure permission of anybody you've divorced & get "married" to your multiple SERIAL spouses one at a time in the temple for eternity]
7. Men may become Gods ["Hey, God, move over...you can go ahead & take my measurements for my throne"]
8. Three degrees of glory [Mormons tout resurrection for all; yet John says there's a resurrection unto "damnation" (John 5:29) -- not too glorious]
9. Baptism for the dead [monopoly on the religio-necro industry, that's for sure! I think we should call this a polymonopoly on necro-baptisms...when are they going to open up fast-food-like windows to meet the demand to grow with more genealogical records online?]
10. Eternal progression [at least til you hit the ceiling of your assigned glory...you terrestials aren't getting out!]
11. The Aaronic Priesthood [yeah, like the Bible -- apostle Paul -- says, these 12-year-old "elders" better keep to one wife!]
12. Temple works of washings, anointing, endowments, sealing; along with temple -- at least for its newly re-purposed usage [I guess the people of the Book of Mormon times weren't very "sacred" compared to contemporary Mormons]

From the article: Mormons believe that you can own your own planet if you are a good Mormon, married in the temple and tithe.

Strange that many Lds deny this obvious repeated teaching STILL taught in Mormon courses to its young today!

[Vaquero]

could be worse...

could be Islamic

could be a Scientologist

[Pollster1]

While I find most of the bullet points odd, at best, I don’t consider even one of them relevant when voting for a President of the United States. The real problem with Romney is his political views, which make him one of the ten worst major party nominees for president in history. The only relevant question is whether (a) being so far to the left is completely disqualifying or (b) running against the very worst occupant of our White House in history is enough to earn Romney our votes. His church’s views on the Trinity or on the geographic location to which Jesus will return strike me as completely irrelevant.

[ballplayer]

Fine,this strong effort to expose Obamas religion in the last campaign seems to have fallen flat as recent polls show many still don’t know what obamas religion is,so I would love to revisit that debate.We could , look in depth at Black Liberation Theology and see that all Obama thinks about is a Marxist Black ideology.So by all means bring it on

[P-Marlowe]

Strange that many Lds deny this obvious repeated teaching STILL taught in Mormon courses to its young today!

Mitt Romney. The Presidential Candidate from the Planet Kolob.

[IWONDR]

you are absolutely correct.

colofornian would rather have a practitioner of Islam as president than a mormon.

God save America from 4 more years of Obama.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

single issue poster alert.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

It’s his full time job...

[ScottinVA]

Yawwwnnnnnn....

Next subject.

[muir_redwoods]

There is nothing about the beliefs of Mormonism that strikes me as any stranger than the beliefs of other religions if one views them objectively. I’m not denigrating any faith but they all have elements that don’t succumb to reason in an objective sense.

[Tennessee Nana]

a 12 yo white boy had more standing in the Mormon church than ANY black man.
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Or any woman white or black...

and that 12 year old kid STILL has more standing than women...

In fact he has authority over his own mother...

so much for family...

an upside down out-of=control household is not a “nice family” by any means...

and definitely not Biblical...

[jeffc]

JFK’s Catholicism was in issue in the 1960 election, and he won. There’s a way to fight this.

[IWONDR]

* Mormons do not believe in the trinity.

[False: mormons believe in 3 separate beings in what they call the God Head: God, The Father, His Son, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. a slightly different interpretation of the Trinity than other Christian faiths.]

* Mormons do not believe in grace.

[False: mormons absolutely believe that it is only through the atoning grace of our Good Lord that mankind is saved.]

* Mormons do not believe in the original sin of man.

[False: mormons believe that Christ atoned for all our sins, including Adam’s, and as it says in the Bible, suffer little children to come unto me as such is the Kingdom of Heaven]

* Mormons do not believe in hell.

[False: mormons believe in what they call outer darkness, where those who deny Christ are sent.]

The writer of this article needs to get his facts straight by talking to a mormon before repeating what other non- or ex-mormons may have said or written.

[Tau Food]

I have mixed feelings about Romney’s relationship to Mormonism. Part of me worries that he believes in it and part of me says that Mitt Romney doesn’t really believe in anything but increasing his personal power over the rest of us. I’m not sure which is worse.

[CaptainK]

If you remember during the 2008 Presidential election, there was a strong effort to try to expose the faith of then Senator Obama.

I'll read the article after I stop laughing at the introduction sentence. That may take hours.

[TheRake]

Every day I stop by FR, mostly to lurk and peruse the articles posted. Rarely do I get half way through the first page before I find an article posted that’s purposely harmful to Mitt, and most often not relevant to the presidency. It’s tiresome frankly. For me personally, it is the single reason I’ve stopped contributing.

I believe I stand with many at FR that believes, that Miit is far from our favorite candidate, or first choice for that matter. But if you think that 4 more years of Obama, regardless of the house and senate count, is going to be better for this country in the near term or the long term, you’re delusional.

All the people on this site who say they support our military and are doing their best to tear down Romney, is supporting another 4 years of this madness. Obama despises our troops. I don’t believe for one second that Romney does. Yes, I’m tired of the RINO’s as much as anyone, but I believe this is a unique situation. Romney can be managed with a majority in both houses. Obama will push the envelope in his second term regardless of the house or senate (see russia comments). He’ll push it to the point that forces the Republicans to act and many will lose they’re spines. I’d rather take the chance of managing or reversing the decay than to help accelarate by electing BHO.