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Episcopalians Call for Repeal of DOMA; Approve Rites for Pet Funerals
The Christian Post ^ | 7/13/12 | Audrey Barrick

Posted on 07/13/2012 7:08:00 PM PDT by marshmallow

The Episcopal Church's 77th General Convention concluded Thursday with the adoption of a long list of resolutions, from one that calls on the U.S. Congress to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act to another providing rites for pet funerals.

Episcopal leaders, who met in Indianapolis for over a week, considered dozens of resolutions – the most controversial being the approval of transgender ordination and rites for the blessing of same-sex unions.

In protest, leaders from the Diocese of South Carolina, including its bishop, left the convention early after expressing clearly their belief that the decisions mark a departure from Scripture and Anglican tradition.

"These resolutions in my opinion are disconcerting changes to the doctrine, discipline and worship of the Episcopal Church – to which every bishop, priest and deacon is asked to conform," said S.C. Bishop the Rt. Rev. Mark J. Lawrence. "More importantly they mark a departure from the doctrine, discipline and worship of Christ as this Church has received them, therein making it necessary for me to strongly differentiate myself from such actions."

Twelve other bishops also released a report to record their dissent.

The Rt. Rev. Michael G. Smith, bishop of North Dakota, stated that the approved resolution on same-sex blessings makes it much harder for them to persuade theological conservatives to remain in The Episcopal Church.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Theology
KEYWORDS: anglican; doma; ecusa; episcopagans; episcopal; godgavethemover; homosexualagenda; religiousleft; reprobateminds; tec

1 posted on 07/13/2012 7:08:09 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Why don’t they just be done with it and don wizard caps and witches hats, complete with mooney-starry-planety robes and magic wands?

They could unite with the Universalist Unitarian “church” and become the Episcopalian Universalist Unitarian witch’s coven.


2 posted on 07/13/2012 7:13:32 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: marshmallow

Whatever is left of the Episcopal church can go to hell with their pc bs. It is very disappointing to see all these ‘bishops’ endorse sin. I can’t wait to hear their explanations to the Lord when they are called to judgement. Godless heathens.


3 posted on 07/13/2012 7:14:12 PM PDT by ABQHispConservative
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To: Westbrook

The Episcopal Church really has morphed into the Unitiarian Universalist Church, they are one and the same now. They certinly don’t believe in Christian doctrine. They are pantheists who see Jesus as a really neato guy who taught socialism.


4 posted on 07/13/2012 7:23:44 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("The cross opens its arms to the four winds; it is a signpost for free travelers." GK Chesterton)
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To: marshmallow

It appears that, unfortunately, the Episcopal church is well on its way to becoming a social club. Very little God fearing religion left.


5 posted on 07/13/2012 7:23:52 PM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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To: marshmallow

Godless.


6 posted on 07/13/2012 7:27:54 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: marshmallow

So when are the Episcopalians going to pass new rules on club membership, black ball procedure and amend their by-laws to make a Social Function Committee a required standing committee.

They are making themselves into a Moose Lodge. . . .


7 posted on 07/13/2012 7:28:26 PM PDT by RatRipper (Obama, YOU LIE!!! . . .again and again and again and again, ad infinitum. . . .)
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To: marshmallow

repeal the Defense of Marriage Act to another providing rites for pet funerals.
..........................................................
I was expecting it to say they were providing rites for pet marriages.


8 posted on 07/13/2012 7:40:33 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer
Those who donated to the Episcopalian Church for building Churches are spinning in their grave
9 posted on 07/13/2012 7:50:02 PM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: marshmallow

I think this very thing was predicted in the end times. They may be a church, but not a true Christian church ... something from the anti-christ side.


10 posted on 07/13/2012 7:59:36 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
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To: marshmallow

Now they are just becoming ridiculous.


11 posted on 07/13/2012 8:00:55 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: ABQHispConservative

This will further split the Episcopal church into two factions: Christian churches and religiously-themed social clubs.


12 posted on 07/13/2012 8:02:48 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: marshmallow

I think it’s time to go Baptist.

I certainly couldn’t go Catholic even though I’ve been invited back by the Pope.


13 posted on 07/13/2012 8:10:39 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: ABQHispConservative

left there years ago along with my family, if they want to try and think that being pro homo agenda, and pro what ever is marriage is alright in order to gain or think they will gain more poeple then they should call themselves the queer killing babies, what eevr goes in order to get money church


14 posted on 07/13/2012 9:00:15 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: marshmallow

These ARE interesting times we’re living in. Don’t forget, God wins.


15 posted on 07/13/2012 9:03:08 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: marshmallow

Unbelievable.

These people need a lot of prayers.


16 posted on 07/13/2012 9:03:58 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

left that so called church, my family and I have had it with them trying to be more open so they think they can get more people in order to get more money.

They’re a joke now and certainly have ignored the holy Bible.

Best more I ever and my family ever did was to get out of that so called religion.

They do not follow anything Christian IMHO.


17 posted on 07/13/2012 9:05:45 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
You might be surprised. Read some of these stories.



18 posted on 07/13/2012 9:06:29 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Not all Catholic Churches are lib spawning grounds. Check us out at St. Mary’s in Kutztown, if you’re ever on this side of the state.


19 posted on 07/13/2012 9:07:04 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Oh yea, ask for “Stevio”. ;^)


20 posted on 07/13/2012 9:08:09 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: scooby321

sco, “spinning in their grave”

“Episcopal” church, a classic example of entropy. On the flock it gorges, mmm, succulent, corpse of the of the fathers labors & their children, the sheeple.

Rab.


21 posted on 07/13/2012 9:39:22 PM PDT by Rabin
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To: marshmallow

The Episcopals are practically dead. Shame, it’s like Satan himself sent moles in to destroy this denomination.

Fascinating article from the Blaze:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cross-dressing-clergy-these-are-the-reasons-the-episcopal-church-could-be-near-collapse/

Seems the Episcopals have spent all their money keeping fleeing congregations from taking their buildings with them, and now are left with empty buildings they can’t use, fill, sell, or support. Something totally demonic about that.


22 posted on 07/14/2012 12:13:02 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: marshmallow

And it all started with what they attempted to assure everyone was just one homosexual bishop.

They should just renounce Christianity and be done with it.. never mind.. they already have.


23 posted on 07/14/2012 1:50:50 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: marshmallow

The Anglican/ Episcopal tradition was begun on a faulty premise and its demise will be caused by same.

Unless you eat of the flesh of the son of man and drink of his blood you will NOT have life within you.

Tu es Petrus...


24 posted on 07/14/2012 2:58:55 AM PDT by veritas2002
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To: marshmallow
The Rt. Rev. Michael G. Smith, bishop of North Dakota, stated that the approved resolution on same-sex blessings makes it much harder for them to persuade theological conservatives to remain in The Episcopal Church.

And the Episcopal Church continues to jockey to become the one world religion which will eschew God as the end times approach. What the hell is a "theological conservative" if not one who believes in the Word of God?

25 posted on 07/14/2012 4:02:18 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: marshmallow

Bring out your dead.
(BONG)
Bring out your dead.


26 posted on 07/14/2012 4:05:10 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: marshmallow

They are acting less and less Christian.


27 posted on 07/14/2012 7:52:07 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
I certainly couldn’t go Catholic

Because you want to contracept?

28 posted on 07/14/2012 9:40:53 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: marshmallow

“More importantly, they represent a departure from the doctrine, discipline and worship of Christ as this Church has received them”

Welcome to the party, pal. This departure is now >50 years old.


29 posted on 07/14/2012 10:09:55 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: trebb
And the Episcopal Church continues to jockey to become the one world religion which will eschew God as the end times approach.

At the rate they're shrinking, that's going to be a pretty small "world" ... maybe instead of a "one world religion," they'll be a "0.00085734 world religion".

No point in having a church that prostitutes itself to the zeitgeist at every turn. People don't need "church" for that; it's easier, simpler, and more honest just to be an atheistic hedonist.

30 posted on 07/14/2012 3:59:38 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: veritas2002; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice; HarleyD; HossB86; ...

Actually, the Anglicans move toward liberalism coincides with moving towards RC Eucharistic doctrine:

Representatives of the Anglican and Roman Catholic churches declared that they had “substantial agreement on the doctrine of the Eucharist” in the Windsor Statement on Eucharistic Doctrine[4] developed by the Anglican-Roman Catholic International Commission, as well as the commission’s Elucidation of the ARCIC Windsor Statement.

On January 6, 1994, the ARC/USA bishops affirmed “that Christ in the eucharist makes himself present sacramentally and truly when under the species of bread and wine these earthy realities are changed into the reality of his body and blood,” while stating “In English the terms substance, substantial, and substantially have such physical and material overtones that we, adhering to The Final Report, have substituted the word truly for the word substantially...” The bishops concluded “that the eucharist as sacrifice is not an issue that divides our two Churches.”[6]

This is understood as amounting to an acceptance of the doctrine, with an expression of a reservation about the use of the name of the doctrine in English because the word is misunderstood by English speakers .- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglican_Eucharistic_theology#Transubstantiation

Furthermore, RCs overall are typically close to Episcopalians in evidences of spiritual commitment, being close to last in such, as well as also being far more liberal in moral views than their evangelical counterparts: http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html

In addition, your interpretation of Jn. 6:53 would require one to believe in Transubstantiation to be born again, which is clearly contrary to scripture, as well as how Jesus lived by the Father, which is what He used to describe how we “live” by Him,” (Jn. 6:57), in which His “meat” was to do His will, (Jn. 4:34) as He lived by every Word of God, (Mt. 4:4), that being spirit and life, (Jn. 6:63) and in John and the rest of the N.T. is how souls gained life in themselves, (Jn. 20:31) by believing the gospel . (Eph. 1:13)


31 posted on 07/14/2012 4:14:00 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: marshmallow

Amazing how effective the left is at destroying institutions.


32 posted on 07/14/2012 4:34:53 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: A.A. Cunningham; PittsburghAfterDark; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice; ...

That would not be a real problem as most Catholics do not believe it is wrong to use contraceptives (which i agree should not be used), and while you can consider them all excommunicated by invoking latae sententiae, but Rome treats such and far more “nominal Catholics” as members in life and in death, which the examples of even such as Teddy Kennedy attest.

Nor are you the local ordinary to whom the judgment of such “notorious sinners” belongs, (Canon 1184) and which would be what is in conformity with Scriptural discipline. And which was part of a recent FR debate. (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2901874/posts?page=68#68)

In addition, most Catholic converts to evangelical churches do not do so because of doctrine, much less due to strictness of doctrine as effectually taught, but because of lack of spiritual fulfillment in Catholicism. http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html#DEMOGRAPHICS


33 posted on 07/14/2012 4:51:47 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: stevio

The Catholic Church is certainly not liberal. No homo marriage, no abortion for any reason, no women ordination. This has been the same for 2,000 years. The only thing the Church does that I have problems with is it’s lackadaisical attitude towards illegals. But I think the reason for that is 99% of illegals are Catholic. I can’t think of another reason. Most of my fellow Catholics believe in legal immigration.


34 posted on 07/14/2012 9:13:25 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

What some cafetereia catholic does has nothing at all to do with officlal doctrine of the Catholic Church. Committed Catholics that actually take their faith serious are conservative to the bone. I am not taking about the Pelosis and Bidens of the world, who should be excommunicated for bringing great scandal to the Church.


35 posted on 07/14/2012 9:20:01 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: daniel1212

Except that the Catholic Church considers Anglican orders invalid. Without a valid priesthood, there can be no Eucharist. That is why Anglican clergy who convert must be ordained Catholic priests if they desire Catholic priesthood.


36 posted on 07/15/2012 6:46:50 PM PDT by veritas2002
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To: PittsburghAfterDark; Salvation
Along with the Pope and some of the posters here, I would like to add my own voice to those inviting you home to the Catholic Church.    There are many good conversion stories at the "Coming Home Network" link that Salvation gave you, and I would also like to recommend a few books you might want to check out as well, relating to that subject.    Here they are:

  Evangelical is Not Enough: Worship of God in Liturgy and Sacrament  -  By Thomas Howard

  Lead, Kindly Light: My Journey to Rome  -  By Thomas Howard

  Apologia pro Vita Sua  -  By John Henry Newman

I sincerely hope you can use this opportunity to really look into this, and seriously consider coming all the way home.

37 posted on 07/15/2012 8:15:38 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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To: NKP_Vet

Well we do have some liberal leaning members. Thankfully our priest is a holy man, but getting up in years. I pray we continue to be a light to the world.


38 posted on 07/16/2012 5:30:28 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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