Posted on 07/15/2012 6:47:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
TAMPA (FBW) – Fred Luter and Barack Obama share historical distinctions as African Americans’ first Southern Baptist Convention and U.S. presidents, respectively, but on the major political-moral issue of gay marriage they are on opposite sides – a disagreement driven by Luter’s commitment to the Bible.
“I believe that nothing, nothing can be politically right if it’s biblically wrong,” Luter said July 10 in an interview with Florida Baptist Witness.
“The Word of God says marriage is between one man and one woman,” Luter said, adding that “no president, no governor, no mayor, no politician, no individual can change that fact.”
In light of the Bible’s teaching on marriage, Luter said he is “totally against” Obama’s support of gay marriage.
Luter sat down for a 30-minute interview with the Witness while in Tampa to preach at two Florida Baptist churches. In addition to Obama’s gay marriage position, Luter talked about a congratulatory phone call from President Obama, the state of race relations in the Southern Baptist Convention, his goals as SBC president, Calvinism, and the recent death of his mother.
The Tampa events were Luter’s first engagements since being elected SBC president last month, although the events were scheduled even before he decided to be a candidate for the presidency.
While Luter disagrees with Obama on gay marriage, he was quick to note that it’s not the first time he has disagreed with a president and he remains committed to pray for the president and his family.
Following Obama’s May announcement of his “evolved” views in favor of gay marriage, Luter said many members of his predominantly African American congregation, Franklin Avenue Baptist Church in New Orleans, asked for his reaction.
“I told my congregation, I support our president. I pray for him, but on this same-sex marriage deal, I’m totally against it,” he said. “When I said that on that Sunday morning, not everybody, to be honest with you, but the majority of our members, stood up and applauded because they’ve known me to be a man of the Book.”
When others became aware Luter’s comments to his congregation, he received emails of appreciation, “because not everybody’s taking a stand on that,” he said, apparently referring to other African American pastors.
“That’s one of the things I have to deal with – people feel that because I’m African American I’ve got to agree with everything that the president says because he’s African American,” Luter said.
“My mind is made up and set on this issue and it doesn’t make me uncomfortable” to disagree with his fellow African American president, he said.
Luter said he is willing to be a spokesman for Southern Baptists on the issues of the day with the news media, adding, “I think you cannot avoid it in this position.”
OBAMA’S CALL
President Obama called Luter two days after his election as SBC president – a call he at first suspected was a prank. He said Obama was gracious and the call “made my day.”
Luter said Obama asked him, “How does it feel to be the most popular president in America?” Luter said the president greeted his wife, Elizabeth, saying, “Hello, First Lady Luter. Make sure this doesn’t go to his head. OK?”
During the five-minute telephone conversation, Luter said Obama expressed a desire to meet him, although no plans were made.
Obama’s call caused Luter to conclude his election “must be a big deal. I mean I didn’t win an NBA championship. I didn’t win the Super Bowl. I didn’t win the World Series.”
RACE RELATIONS
The fact that he was elected the first African American SBC president on June 19 – Juneteenth, the day many African Americans celebrate the end of slavery in America – was important “symbolism,” Luter said, noting the SBC’s founding in connection with the defense of slavery.
“I really believe that it was God-ordained and that it was very significant, not necessarily to the masses, but it was significant to a lot of folk in the African American community,” Luter said of his election on Juneteenth.
As for race relations in the SBC, Luter said his election means the denomination “can turn the page. We can turn that chapter.”
Luter said he became emotional at the time of his election because of the response of the messengers – “just to see 8,000 folks stand up in unison and applaud – and nobody else ran.”
His election shows, “this is not your grandfather’s convention anymore. … Fred Luter is Exhibit A that says that this convention is open to everyone,” he said.
GOALS
Noting he has a relatively short time as president – two years, assuming his reelection next year – Luter said he has given himself three months to talk with various SBC leaders, seek counsel and pray about a “vision” or “platform” for his presidency.
“I don’t have a position of power, but I do have a position of influence,” he said.
“God has given me the gift of building bridges throughout the years,” Luter said, adding that he would like to “take the energy” resulting from his election and use it to find a way for the SBC to “get together.”
Given the SBC’s diversity Luter said he would like to “get us all on the same page as far as making the main thing the main thing – and that is evangelism and discipleship and winning lost folk to Christ and doing all we can as a convention.”
Luter compared dealing with the diversity in the SBC to the diversity in the local church.
“I tell people, ‘Listen, the church is not here to help you with your agenda. You’re here to help the church to carry out God’s agenda.’ And it’s the same thing in the convention,” he said.
“If we would let go of our egos, if we would let go of our own agendas and let’s come together – despite all of the diversity – let’s come together and do what’s best for the kingdom of heaven, I really think that this convention can really continue to make an impact,” he said.
CALVINISM
Asked about the debate about Calvinism that has become prominent in the Southern Baptist Convention in recent months, Luter said he is “still trying to wrap my mind around this thing,” noting that he is frequently asked about it.
Although he is studying the issue, admitting, “I don’t have a handle on it yet,” Luter expressed concern about the debate.
“One of the things I can say with surety, I have no doubt the enemy is behind it all. … I just believe that this may be an issue as other things have done in the past that the enemy has tried to divide brothers, divide churches, divide friends to keep our mind off the main thing,” he said.
MOTHER’S DEATH
Luter said he was grateful for the many expressions of support he received following the news of his mother’s death – just one week after his election.
“I was riding this high, then my mom died. Of course, that was a low,” Luter said. “But to see the response from people across the country … it’s been overwhelming.”
He was especially thankful that Frank Page, president of the Southern Baptist Convention Executive Committee, came to New Orleans for his mother’s memorial service. It was a “great, great testimony that Frank would come down to be a part of that,” he said.
Although Luter’s mother, Viola Blayton Brooks, 82, had been ill for about 10 months, her death was unexpected, he said.
“The greatest thing of all was that she was able to see her son make history,” Luter said, noting that she was very proud of him, both because of his pastoral successes and his SBC honor.
The day after he was elected SBC president, Luter said he visited her at her New Orleans home. Upon his arrival, she would typically greet him with the declaration, “Look at my pastor!”
“This time when I walked in her door … she said, ‘Look at my president! Look at my president!’ And she gave me a big old hug,” he recalled.
Pretty powerful words for sure.They're very likely to be well received within the SBC (and elsewhere) but not well at all by the pervert lobby,a wholly owned subsidiary of the DNC.
Barack Obama is half white! I doubt that Fred Luter is half white, although it’s, really, none of my business what his background is on anything and everything. It’s amazing what counts as being African American or black (or Indian, too) in a politically correct, leftist world.
Well Fred, will you still vote for him?
Sure will
The left is against smoking because it’s bad for your health, but more than half the gay men have hiv or some other kind of disease that is life threatening.
I can’t see how that recommends that lifestyle over smoking.
“.....it’s, really, none of my business what his background is on anything and everything.”
You can bet the farm that when the curtain is closed on the voting booth, da’ good rev’und will vote for the raghead precisely as he did in ‘08.
Parse what he said. The ONLY thing he’s against is Zero’s position on homo marriages......but he apparently applauds everything else./S
And this stalwart is the new President Elect of the Southern Baptist Convention? THE Southern Baptist Convention?! I would never use such language myself......but to quote Monica Crowley: “WTF?!”
And, many leftists are for the legal, recreational use of illegal drugs, too, despite being against smoking.
What’s an ‘African American’ ? Neither of these two have African citizenship, nor were they born there, nor do they speak any of the various languages of Africa.
He is probably a good man but I hate the thought that he was elected so they can say “we have a Black President of the Southern Baptist Convention”, thus proving to all that we go right along with all the other current fashions.
Good news!
All Pastors pray for the President. Fred’s answer on the Calvinism controversy nailed that bat to the freshly white washed fence. Dead perfect.
You would be shocked at the number of black Pastors who vote conservative. Daily they see the human wreckage left by politicians and their unread bills.
WADR, I don’t doubt that a few black pastors sometimes may vote conservative on some subjects. But I also don’t doubt that 97% of them voted for Zero in 2008, in spite of all the evidence that he was a complete fraud, a muslim and had never actually managed so much as a pushcart selling hotdogs in his entire life. And I am convinced that in 2012 95% of the ones who did it in 2008 will DO IT AGAIN!
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