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How I Met Your Father: Married Episcopalians Becoming Catholic Priests
US Catholic ^ | 7/16/12 | Katharine Saunders

Posted on 07/16/2012 6:24:27 PM PDT by marshmallow

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To: vladimir998

It has been done before just not in the last few cebturies.


21 posted on 07/17/2012 5:51:02 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: pbear8

I believe he was, others do not believe that.

Dp you really believe Jesus was Natural do you believe any natural could bring Lazarus back to life?


22 posted on 07/17/2012 5:52:19 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

No, it hasn’t been done in about 15 or 16 centuries at least. And it was never the ideal. Learn some history.


23 posted on 07/17/2012 6:09:46 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

You said it had never been done.,but I do apologise for making a statement in basically a religious post. I don’t know what got into me ,I knew better. Religious zealots do not care for opinions , THEY are the only arbiters .

Again I apologise.


24 posted on 07/17/2012 6:16:16 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer
Celibacy as a life’s work is a bit different from celibacy before marriage

Yes, because celibacy "as a life's work" is freely chosen by grownups. None of us get to choose celibacy before marriage; we're all born into it. Some people are happy that way; some aren't. Some aren't and never get the chance to change it.

Few people enter into marriage with an agreemnt of not having sex, it is usually the fault of an accident or medical problem and usually comes with age.

The "why" is not important to my point. Marriage vows don't become optional if your spouse becomes unable to perform the marital act.

I seem to recall that celebacy didn’t enter into the Church until the tenth century or so.

The Wikipedia article on the subject dispels that idea pretty adequately, I think. The history is much older than that, and much more complex.

25 posted on 07/17/2012 9:17:02 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Venturer
1. Celibacy has not been hypocrisy --> it started out amongst monks, following St. Paul's celibate example, then as it was noticed that monks are holier, it was extended to priests. Note of course that this is a discipline, not a dogma, so can theoretically change (as opposed to female priestesses which can never happen)

2. There are married Catholic priests -- that in fact is the norm among Eastern Catholic rites. And amongst the Eastern Catholics and the Orthodox and Assyrians and Orientals, married men can become priests, but priests can't get married -- it makes sense if you think about it

3. It's not a backdoor. Quite frankly there should be more ability for married men to become Eastern Catholic priests, but definitely no reason for priests to go about courtin

26 posted on 07/18/2012 12:04:04 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Campion

I am just sorryb that I ventured an opinion, I am sure I will try not to venture an opinion again, as opinions on religion are not wanted here.


27 posted on 07/18/2012 3:56:30 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Disagreement is not being unfriendly. Have any opinion you want, express any opinion you want — within the limits set by the moderators. Other people will have different opinions. They get the same right to express them that you have. Maybe we’ll all learn something.


28 posted on 07/18/2012 5:26:32 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Venturer

Learn Church History. Ordained men do not marry in either the Catholic or Orthodox churches. There was a history of married men being ordained, but not ordained men marrying. It has been that way for over 15 centuries.


29 posted on 07/18/2012 3:04:28 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Thnk you, Thank you , Oh most learned one. Now if you please go and spread your vast knowledge to someone else, I have stated repeatedly that I was sorry to even come on this post where so many knowledgeable theological experts know it all.


30 posted on 07/18/2012 3:57:36 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

You apparently didn’t know the tradition. Get over it.


31 posted on 07/18/2012 4:52:34 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

I still have the same opinion.

You still have yours. All the BS was a waste of time.

Get over that.


32 posted on 07/18/2012 5:08:02 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

You wrote:

“I still have the same opinion.”

Because it apparently isn’t informed or influenced by actual facts.

“You still have yours.”

Yes, and mine is right. It is reflective of the facts.

“All the BS was a waste of time.”

Do you even know how to make an argument?


33 posted on 07/18/2012 6:12:50 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

I am not here to make an argument, you are.

I just stated my opinion and listened to yours.


34 posted on 07/18/2012 6:32:17 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

You wrote:

“I am not here to make an argument, you are.”

I’m not talking about arguing. I’m talking about being able to defend your position with something other than, well...the nothing that you have posted so far.

“I just stated my opinion and listened to yours.”

The difference is my opinion matters because it is based on the facts and yours doesn’t because there’s nothing to back it up.


35 posted on 07/18/2012 6:52:04 PM PDT by vladimir998
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