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Gay Is Not the New Black
The Gospel Coalition ^ | 7-19-12 | Voddie Baucham

Posted on 07/21/2012 1:44:38 PM PDT by ReformationFan

It's hard to deny that homosexual "marriage" appears to be a foregone conclusion in America. This is a frightening prospect not only for those of us who understand marriage to be a testimony of the relationship between Christ and his bride, the church, but also for all who value the family and its contribution to the well-being of society and human thriving. And while it's difficult to watch a coordinated, well-funded, well-connected propaganda strategy undermine thousands of years of human history, it's especially disconcerting to witness the use of the civil rights struggle as the vehicle for the strategy.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: black; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; kenyanbornmuzzie; moralabsolutes; swrdswllwngsdshw; voddiebaucham
Good message from Calvinistic Baptist preacher Voddie Baucham.
1 posted on 07/21/2012 1:44:43 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Calvinism isn’t Southern Baptist. And Calvin himself was a tyrant who murdered someone who challenged his interpretation. Thats about as far from Baptist as i can imagine.


2 posted on 07/21/2012 1:54:50 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: ReformationFan

Why, they only want to ba able to visit their lover in the Hospital Nothing MORE


3 posted on 07/21/2012 1:55:25 PM PDT by ballplayer
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To: ReformationFan

I agree. Thanks for posting!


4 posted on 07/21/2012 2:05:20 PM PDT by koraz
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To: ballplayer

But though i think he is wrong about Calvinism, his sermon is dead on. It’s amazing to see a well oiled revolutionary movement that is so small overturn thousands of years of marriage, and make a mockery of it.

The bolsheviks were a very small group that essentially took over a city, it is as though a band of revolutionaries took over Washington DC and seized government. The homos have done this,,


5 posted on 07/21/2012 2:06:21 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: ReformationFan

Hussein is the new gay.


6 posted on 07/21/2012 2:10:50 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: ReformationFan

But though i think he is wrong about Calvinism being “southern baptist”, his sermon is dead on and ill argue that with him later. It’s amazing to see a well oiled revolutionary movement like the gays, that is so small, overturn thousands of years of marriage, and make a mockery of it.

The bolsheviks were a very small group that essentially took over a St Petersburg, it is as though a band of revolutionaries took over Washington DC and seized government. The homos have done this,,


7 posted on 07/21/2012 2:11:03 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: ReformationFan

Excellent piece. Thanks for posting, ReformationFan.


8 posted on 07/21/2012 2:12:15 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Libloather

They have hushed it, but i literally think Obama is gay.


9 posted on 07/21/2012 2:13:17 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: ReformationFan

I like his slippery slope argument.

If homosexuals can marry others of their own sexual preference because marriage is a “fundamental right” and they are “made that way,” how can the same right be denied to bisexuals, who want both a male and female spouse? Polygamy for both bis and heterosexuals must then be allowed.

Also, if we all have the right to a sexual partner of our sexual preference, what happens in the case of pedophilia?

If todays homosexuals are the “new blacks,” will tomorrows pedophiles be the “new gays”? Could the pedophiles “right to marry” take precedence over a child’s legal inability to consent? We as a country have already decided that the desire for homosexuals to adopt supersedes whatever problem that would pose for the innocent adoptee.


10 posted on 07/21/2012 2:14:49 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: DesertRhino

Yes, they have done this. And the sermon is dead on about how:

By making gay “the new black”, they have tapped into the American spirit of egalitarianism. They have rendered any other theory or idea about homosexuality (a behavior, a maladaption ) null and void by stamping it with the label of “bigotry”.


11 posted on 07/21/2012 2:16:18 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: keats5

“If todays homosexuals are the “new blacks,” will tomorrows pedophiles be the “new gays”? “

Well stated.


12 posted on 07/21/2012 2:21:07 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: keats5

Cable tv shows are already pushing incest as an alternative. There is NO limit with the Left’s perversion.


13 posted on 07/21/2012 2:24:34 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: scottjewell

His point is made so excellently here, and resonates so deeply with the spirit of logic and intuition, that the passage is worth copy pasting to highlight its emphasis:

“One thing that seems to escape most people in this debate is the fact that homosexuals have never been denied the right to marry. They simply haven’t had the right to redefine marriage. But don’t take my word for it; listen to the Iowa Supreme Court in their decision in favor of same-sex “marriage”: “It is true the marriage statute does not expressly prohibit gay and lesbian persons from marrying; it does, however, require that if they marry, it must be to someone of the opposite sex.”

There it is: not only in black and white, but in a legal decision. Homosexuals haven’t been deprived of any right. How, then, do those on the side of same-sex marriage continue to make the claim that this is a civil rights issue? The key is in the next paragraph:

[The] right of a gay or lesbian person under the marriage statute to enter into a civil marriage only with a person of the opposite sex is no right at all. Under such a law, gay or lesbian individuals cannot simultaneously fulfill their deeply felt need for a committed personal relationship, as influenced by their sexual orientation, and gain the civil status and attendant benefits granted by the statute.

I feel the need to remind the reader that this is a legal decision, since phrases like “gay or lesbian individuals cannot simultaneously fulfill their deeply felt need for a committed personal relationship” tend to sound out of place in such a document. Further, this is asinine logic. For example, following this line of reasoning, one could argue, “I have the right to join the military, but I am a pacifist. Therefore, I don’t really have the right (since it would be repulsive to me). Therefore, we need to establish a pacifist branch of the military so that I can fulfill both my desire to join, and my desire not to fight.””


14 posted on 07/21/2012 2:31:40 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: DesertRhino

You don’t know much about the SBC or Calvin.


15 posted on 07/21/2012 3:33:00 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Clock King

Don’t forget polygamy with “Big Love” and “Sister Wives”.


16 posted on 07/21/2012 3:55:54 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: keats5; scottjewell

“If todays homosexuals are the “new blacks,” will tomorrows pedophiles be the “new gays”?”

I figure the polygamists/polyamorists will come next, then the incestuous, then the pedophiles, and then the zoophile/bestiality crowd. To oppose any of these activities would be seen as “racism”.

‘Could the pedophiles “right to marry” take precedence over a child’s legal inability to consent? We as a country have already decided that the desire for homosexuals to adopt supersedes whatever problem that would pose for the innocent adoptee.’

Sad but true.


17 posted on 07/21/2012 4:00:22 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: achilles2000

http://www.reformedreader.org/ccc/1689lbc/english/1689econtents.htm

“The old truth that Calvin preached, that Augustine preached, that Paul preached, is the truth that I must preach to-day, or else be false to my conscience and my God. I cannot shape the truth; I know of no such thing as paring off the rough edges of a doctrine. John Knox’s gospel is my gospel. That which thundered through Scotland must thunder through England again.”—C. H. Spurgeon, the great English Calvinist Baptist preacher of the 19th century


18 posted on 07/21/2012 4:21:31 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

“‘Could the pedophiles “right to marry” take precedence over a child’s legal inability to consent? We as a country have already decided that the desire for homosexuals to adopt supersedes whatever problem that would pose for the innocent adoptee.’”

Yes, and not only this, but homosexuals are actually CREATING children with the aid of surrogacy, egg and sperm donation, with the whole idea of bringing them into the world to be without a father or mother, and to know their mother carried them or donated her egg for money, and never planned to know them.

This goes even beyond the adoption thing, which at least is giving a home (although not an ideal one) to an orphan.

But for 2 gay men to deliberately, cunningly, set about paying an egg donor and surrogate to create in Frankenstein fashion a “child of two daddies”-—it is despicable and ought to be outlawed.


19 posted on 07/21/2012 4:22:20 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

I agree. I worked at a job a few years back where one of the managers was a lesbian. (It wasn’t too hard to figure out since she looked, dressed and sounded like a junior high school boy.) Anyway, she and her girlfriend were having what Michael Savage so appropriately calls a “turkey baster child.” What made this even worse was the fact that TPTB at the office put all sorts of social pressure upon us to celebrate this occurence with a baby shower(which I did not attend). Then later, she showed up with the child to show to the office. I merely said that the baby was cute and made no mention of how he entered this world and would live without his father. But I greatly resented(and still resent) this. We come to work for one thing: to earn a paycheck in order to pay our bills. We do not come to work to endorse the life decisions of our co-workers which I thought were supposed to be private and off company time anyway.


20 posted on 07/21/2012 4:34:15 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

but
The new black IS gay.


21 posted on 07/21/2012 8:36:16 PM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: ReformationFan

Good comment, but i wonder how many people out there will only be concerned that this is all going to lead to plural wives.

Never mind a queer generation, bestially, pedophilia, adultery, and you name it, but we can not let it lead to
a man having more than one wife? we just simply can not have that.


22 posted on 07/22/2012 9:49:21 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: ReformationFan

T appreciatre your posing this, ReformationFan. It is a very well-formulatred argument, better-stated than mnay. I had never heard of Voddie Baucham or TGC before, but now I’ve put TGC in my favorites fot future browsing. Thanks again.


23 posted on 07/22/2012 3:34:24 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Veritate Splendor.)
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To: ReformationFan

Oops,an un-grammatical tagline. I meant “Veritatis Splendor”.


24 posted on 07/22/2012 3:36:20 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Veritatis Splendor..)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You’re welcome. Here is his church website-

http://www.gracefamilybaptist.net/voddie-baucham-ministries/


25 posted on 07/22/2012 9:26:35 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Thanks, RF. Good site.


26 posted on 07/23/2012 7:12:44 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stet.)
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To: ReformationFan

Excellent preacher


27 posted on 07/23/2012 1:27:28 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: DesertRhino

Historically baptists were “reformed’

http://www.vor.org/truth/1689/1689bc00.html (1689)

http://www.ccel.org/creeds/bcf/bcf.htm (1677 creed)

No where in scripture do we fine “free will” or “ altar calls “

There is disagreement on Calvins roll in the death of a heretic..but i would remind you that david killed a man to cover his sin..and he was called a man after Gods own heart..


28 posted on 07/23/2012 1:34:16 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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