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Black Jews Gain Wider Acceptance
forward.com ^ | 27 July 2012 | Len Lyons

Posted on 07/23/2012 8:22:36 AM PDT by Cronos

The ordination took place on a sun-drenched Sabbath, in a synagogue used many decades ago by Lithuanian Jews. But on June 23, it was 200 mostly black worshippers, many in brightly colored African dress, who were on their feet, eyes fixed on a procession of eight white-robed rabbis with ceremonial miters crowning their heads as they strode, single file, down the aisle separating the men’s and women’s seating.

..For many mainstream Jews, this is a ceremony that might seem alien. But today, the differences between them and these black Jews, who have long been ignored or dismissed as inauthentic by the Jewish establishment, seems more like one of culture and ethnicity than Jewish identity.

The ordination pageant is rooted in biblical imagery. But that is not unusual for a movement whose modes of worship are at once traditional and steeped in black religious expression. The earlier three-hour Sabbath morning service, or shacharit, for example, was based on the Orthodox ArtScroll prayer book. But the inspirational preaching, punctuated by frequent cries of hallelujah, emet (truth) and ken (yes) from the worshippers, would be unusual in most synagogues. Even more so the joyful music of the choir, and its full rhythm section of keyboard, guitar and drums to sanctify the day.

Yahath, the movement’s newest cleric, began studying Hebrew and attending Sabbath services in the early 1970s. “When I returned from Vietnam in 1972,” he told the Forward, “I knew Christianity didn’t satisfy me. I was searching spiritually, until a friend talked to me about the idea that black people in America were connected to the Israelites in the Torah. That was the beginning.”...

(Excerpt) Read more at forward.com ...


TOPICS: Judaism; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: african; chicago; illinois; jew; judaism

1 posted on 07/23/2012 8:22:39 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Yeah, man!

2 posted on 07/23/2012 8:35:12 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: edpc

Hebros.


3 posted on 07/23/2012 8:40:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Cronos

100% FRAUD. These are racist, phony “Jews” led by Michelle Obama’s cousin. They have said in the past that European or white Jews were “fake” Jews. The Forward is a Marxist publication like Israel’s Ha’aretz, with an agenda to destroy religious Judaism.


4 posted on 07/23/2012 8:46:29 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Cronos

The connection to the Israelites of the Torah is spiritual, not genetic. These are my spiritual landsmen.


5 posted on 07/23/2012 8:51:10 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Cronos

“black Jews, who have long been ignored or dismissed as inauthentic by the Jewish establishment..”

Who is this that speaks for “the Jewish establishment”?

This is such BS.

Israel airlifted and saved tens of thousands of Black Ethiopian Jews (Falasha’s) from starvation and slaughter. in “Operation Solomon”

Maybe Israel is not part of “the Jewish establishment”?


6 posted on 07/23/2012 9:00:11 AM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: Cronos

If they are willing to follow the Jewish religion, in all its precepts, they are just as authentically Jewish as anybody else who becomes Jewish.


7 posted on 07/23/2012 9:00:47 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

As with Christianity, some of the oldest Jewish communities in the world are in Ethiopia.


8 posted on 07/23/2012 9:03:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Jonty30
If they are willing to follow the Jewish religion, in all its precepts, they are just as authentically Jewish as anybody else who becomes Jewish.

Untrue. These frauds have created their own council and go through phony 'conversions' that are not recognized as legitimate. Only if your Mother is a Jew are you a Jew. Otherwise you must convert. Orthodox do not recognize Reform conversions. They would consider these guys a total joke.

9 posted on 07/23/2012 9:05:52 AM PDT by montag813
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To: cripplecreek
As with Christianity, some of the oldest Jewish communities in the world are in Ethiopia.

The Ethiopian Jews are legit and can trace their heritage back via DNA testing. These frauds - who are led by Michelle Obama's cousin - not only do not claim such a heritage but claim that European Jews are illegitmate. This is why the Forward published this crap - to confuse and divide. That is their true agenda: to undermine Judaism and replace it with secular humanism.

10 posted on 07/23/2012 9:11:03 AM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

As I said, if they are following the Jewish religion, in all their precepts, they are Jewish. I didn’t say that if they just call themselves Jewish, they are Jewish.


11 posted on 07/23/2012 9:18:09 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Cronos
Sorry, I couldn't help it.


12 posted on 07/23/2012 9:24:13 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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13 posted on 07/23/2012 9:38:44 AM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: montag813; Daveinyork; silverleaf; Jonty30

Some of these people are Jewish, as established by legitimate conversions, some aren’t. And it’s true that the Orthodox community might not recognize those who underwent Conservative or Reform conversion. As to who is the Jewish community who determines who is a Jew, it’s perfectly reasonable to identify that community as the recognized denominations, various Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist, which excludes disconnected start up religious groups. It’s my understanding Rabbi Rabbi Funnye’s congregation is recognized by the Conservative movement and that’s he’s ordained, which is enough for me. It’s also my understandin that many of his members and many nationally are not Jewish, converts or otherwise.


14 posted on 07/23/2012 9:49:48 AM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: Cronos
Yaphet Kotto is the son of a Cameroonian crown prince and Jewish. His paternal family from Cameroon have been African Jews for many generations. Kotto campaigned for Steve Forbes in the 2000 Republican primaries. In "Raid on Entebbe", Kotto steals the movie with his portrayal of Idi Amin. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001433/bio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaphet_Kotto Yaphet Kotto Pictures, Images and Photos
15 posted on 07/23/2012 10:39:14 AM PDT by DFG ("Dumb, Dependent, and Democrat is no way to go through life" - Louie Gohmert (R-TX))
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To: SJackson
It’s my understanding Rabbi Rabbi Funnye’s congregation is recognized by the Conservative movement and that’s he’s ordained, which is enough for me.

Well it's NOT enough for me, given that the Conservative movement recently - unanimously - endorsed same-sex marriage.

16 posted on 07/23/2012 11:34:32 AM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Reasonable position, I noted it wouldn’t be accepted by everyone. Same sex marriage aside, I question how a Congregation can have non-Jewish membership as a matter of policy. Members should be require to convert in the manner of the Conservative movement.


17 posted on 07/23/2012 12:54:25 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: silverleaf
well, Ethiopian Jews are Jews genetically -- they have the haplogroup and they are also historically descendents of Jews who moved to Ethiopia millenia ago

The Bene Manashe (in n-e india) are not genetically jews, unlike the Bene Israeli (from bombay and southern india).

These black Jews are not genetically Jewish.

19 posted on 07/24/2012 4:53:30 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Jonty30

I did not know that. I thought Jewishness was limited to genetic descendents of Jacob


20 posted on 07/24/2012 4:54:40 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: cripplecreek; Jonty30

for ethiopian Jews that’s a different case — they are genetically descendents of Jews. For many of those mentioned in the article, this is not the case. They are not genetic descendents of Jacob.


21 posted on 07/24/2012 4:58:11 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: montag813; Jonty30
Only if your Mother is a Jew are you a Jew.

that was my understanding

Otherwise you must convert. -- I don't understand that -- Jonty corrected me that a person who is not genetically descended from Jacob can become a Jew. I'm confused by your statement montag -- what of someone who is not descended from Jacob -- can they convert?

22 posted on 07/24/2012 5:25:54 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

A Jew is born to a Jewish mother or converted ACCORDING TO HALACHA (Jewish law). DNA does not have direct legal status in Jewish law, nor do conversions not in accord traditional religious law.

It must be noted that each case is handled individually, but, generally, in cases where there is doubt as to the status of one’s mother, there is sometimes a kind of abbreviated conversion. This would be the case of certain Ethiopian (and other) Jews who are serious about their Judaism.

It should also be noted that a status granted by the State of Israel does not confer status under Jewish religious law.


23 posted on 07/24/2012 7:13:21 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto
A Jew is born to a Jewish mother or converted ACCORDING TO HALACHA (Jewish law)

the first one I understand. The second -- is it possible for a black person with no Jewish heritage or genetics to convert according to HALACHA?

24 posted on 07/24/2012 8:20:55 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: cripplecreek

Falashas. Read “The Sign and The Seal”.


25 posted on 07/24/2012 10:32:17 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: cripplecreek

Falashas. Read “The Sign and The Seal”.


26 posted on 07/24/2012 10:32:29 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: Cronos
is it possible for a black person with no Jewish heritage or genetics to convert according to HALACHA?

Anyone from any ethnic group can convert according to Halakhah. Technically there are some restrictions placed on certain historical groups (male Moabites and Ammonites), but since we no longer know who belongs to these groups (or even if they still exist) no one is disbarred ethnically from converting to Judaism.

27 posted on 07/24/2012 10:47:35 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Cronos

Absolutely, the same as any other non-Jew who may convert. These days, almost any Orthodox community of some size has a few black converts.

http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/2001/02/African-American-And-Orthodox-Jewish.aspx


28 posted on 07/24/2012 2:33:46 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto; Zionist Conspirator

thanks, both those posts give me more information. what about acceptance by the wider, non-reform Jewish community?


29 posted on 07/24/2012 11:07:29 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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