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City Removes Franciscan University Chapel from Logo
The Cardinal Newman Society ^ | 7/25/12 | Matthew Archbold

Posted on 07/26/2012 6:51:20 AM PDT by marshmallow

The effort to erase any public sign of Christianity in American took yet another step forward recently with the announcement that the city of Steubenville, Ohio is removing the image of the Franciscan University of Steubenville’s chapel from the official city logo.

Here’s a pic of the offending city logo which was unveiled just last year:

The city of Steubenville, faced with the threat of an expensive lawsuit from the Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc., a Madison, Wisconsin-based atheist group, decided to drop the image of the chapel and the cross. They will be asking an artist to create a new logo in the near future.

Law Director S. Gary Repella told The Herald Star, “We were contacted in May by the Freedom from Religion Foundation Inc. in Madison, Wis., who said one of our citizens had complained about the city logo. During the past several months the foundation sent me their research and past case law regarding religious symbols. I researched current case law and found a lot of case laws that do not allow religious symbols in government symbols.”

Franciscan University reacted to the announcement with the following statement from Michael Hernon, vice president of Advancement:...........

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.cardinalnewmansociety.org ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Skeptics/Seekers
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1 posted on 07/26/2012 6:51:23 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

It’s not just Christianity that they want to delete, it’s God. Woe be unto us when they succeed. But He will have the last laugh...........


2 posted on 07/26/2012 6:54:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: marshmallow

This just in: Zion, Illinois has been disbanded.


3 posted on 07/26/2012 6:56:22 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: marshmallow

Somebody needs to initiate a class action suit against “Freedom from Religion” or whatever they’re called.

Maybe we can use WePay.com to raise the funds.


4 posted on 07/26/2012 6:59:25 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: marshmallow

Somebody just has to stand up to these people and tell them to FOAD. They will keep bullying otherwise. I learned that back in the 1970’s when I was bullied, why won’t these people stand up to them?


5 posted on 07/26/2012 7:01:40 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (June 28th, 2012, the Day America Jumped The Shark.)
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To: marshmallow

Can’t cities just ignore these lawsuits? Send the Athe-Nazis a nice note, “Thank you for reaching out to us, but we like the logo we have. Visit us any time.” And then do nothing else.

What would happen?


6 posted on 07/26/2012 7:01:40 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You have all been given written notice of my mid-life crisis. You have, understand?)
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To: marshmallow

They must have figured they would lose the lawsuit.


7 posted on 07/26/2012 7:02:22 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: marshmallow

How long has that been the city symbol?
Will they remove the citizen-soldier and gun, too?


8 posted on 07/26/2012 7:07:09 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: marshmallow

Perhaps someone will sue them to remove the giant masonic dividers from the middle of the logo.


9 posted on 07/26/2012 7:07:42 AM PDT by agere_contra (Vote ABO. Don't choose the Greater Evil and then boast about how principled you are)
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To: marshmallow
Law Director S. Gary Repella told The Herald Star, "...I researched current case law and found a lot of case laws that do not allow religious symbols in government symbols.”

I'm underwhelmed by the competence of the "Law Director." Is he totally cut off from current events, such that he doesn't know that the Freedom From Religion people are targeting every Christian representation with any connection to any level of government? Why would he not have considered, in advance, the possibility of this lawsuit, and either decided not to include the university chapel, OR decided in advance to tell the professional aggrieved to pound sand?

I think Mr. Repella owes the city a refund of his salary.

10 posted on 07/26/2012 7:10:42 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You have all been given written notice of my mid-life crisis. You have, understand?)
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To: marshmallow

If we on the Right are the evil rich, how come we don’t have the financial resources to battle the ongoing, destructive infestation of predatory lawyer scum that is eroding EVERY aspect of our society?


11 posted on 07/26/2012 7:12:23 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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To: marshmallow

The Franciscan University of Steubenville’s presence gave an aura of class to an otherwise impoverished and decaying small city. Stupidville was chiefly known as the hometown of the now deceased crooner Dean Martin. Now it wants to be known for nothing.


12 posted on 07/26/2012 7:18:34 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: marshmallow

City of Steubenville “leaders” = spineless cowards


13 posted on 07/26/2012 7:19:08 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. - Modified Descartes)
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To: marshmallow

Steubenville... Where You Always Have A Home (Unless You’re A Christian)

I hate Ohio Nazis.


14 posted on 07/26/2012 7:21:32 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: marshmallow

I have long believed that there are people in charge that want to make this type of change but know they would bring down a world of hurt on them self if they do.

So they work in collusion with outsiders to threaten to sue the organization to provide cover, and they quick agree to the changes before anyone is aware of what is happening and then present a “ Fait accompli

Is it true, I don’t know, but it seems a threat to sue only works for the left to get something they don’t like changed


15 posted on 07/26/2012 7:38:09 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem it has a spending problem)
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To: marshmallow

Those are actually the things you see as you enter the city from the West Virginia side. The Fort, the Veterans Bridge, and Franciscan University.


16 posted on 07/26/2012 7:48:22 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Nowhere Man
“Somebody just has to stand up to these people and tell them to FOAD”.

Exactly. PC be Damned. This is how they have been getting away with it for so long. A Self Appointed Smoking Nazi stood before me, and the cute Blonde I was with at an OUTDOOR pool in Ann Arbor, Mi. this last weekend, and started spouting, Al Gore, second hand smoke, asptma, blah, blah, blah. I let here go for about 20 seconds, before I rudley cut her off, and stated I do not argue with, Nazi's, Democrats, and, or Fools. I explained that there was no smoking policy that forbid smoking at the pool.Thems the facts ma'am. You now have two choices. You can call the Cop's, or move along, because this conversation is now over. Goodbye. I was quite surprised,that in all places like Ann Arbor,many people thanked me for standing up to this busy body. Our side needs to learn to start pushing back. Peace MCB

17 posted on 07/26/2012 7:49:28 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: marshmallow

The problem is, with erasing God, people are erasing their own history.

Kids today have no idea on how religion shaped their world because every mention is removed from their textbooks and lives.

I was reading on the Donner party the other day. On the PBS site, which is considered an excellent resource, they have the many excerpts from the actual diary of one of the settlers. I went to check on the “edited” parts - it seems every other sentence is a prayer to God. None of those parts seem to have gotten into any of the quotes tho - you think ONE prayer would have, to give the true gist?

http://www.oac.cdlib.org/ark:/28722/bk0004b217j/?order=1&brand=oac4

If you want to give your kid’s history text the acid test, check the “Mayflower Compact”. Some will do pretzel twists to avoid any mention of deity, just like Obama does when he reads the Declaration, edit out the parts that are offensive to them and mention God.

I’m sure that raising uneducated kids is PART of the socialist plan, though, not an accident.


18 posted on 07/26/2012 7:50:10 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: stuartcr
They must have figured they would lose the lawsuit.

Not even that. As a struggling former mill town, just the initial filings and court procedures might have bankrupted them.


19 posted on 07/26/2012 7:50:24 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: marshmallow
You did not build that, the government did !

20 posted on 07/26/2012 7:54:36 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I am curious. What would really happen if they ignore the suit. I mean don't even answer. I know they default. But then what? Can the court order damages? What basis do they use to determine “harm”? Do the courts order the city to change the logo? What if the city says NO? What happens if they don't comply? OK. Arrest warrants. But who gets arrested?
Who enforces the arrest warrant? Local cops? Are the local LEO’s gonna arrest the mayor? Might be interesting to call the bluff.
I would love someone with experience in this area to comment.
21 posted on 07/26/2012 8:24:03 AM PDT by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: IbJensen

Franciscan U. was one of the colleges my daughter applied to.

It looked like almost the only employment in Steubenville, barring the jail.

Nice Victorian houses with neatly kept yards, only the paint is peeling and roofs failing because people can’t keep them up.

Steel mills with no cars parked.

UPS offering employment - union shop - mandatory dues at an extortionate percentage.

The opposite riverbank carved into a stripped, oppressive cliff for the highway, walling off the world, instead of the wooded bluff there once was.

One of the saddest towns I’ve ever seen.


22 posted on 07/26/2012 8:45:07 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: agere_contra
It was creepy to look this upm but you are correct.

Square and Compasses

Due to slight Masonic jurisdictional differences around the world, this symbol does not always look exactly the same to all Freemasons.

  Some jurisdictions call this symbol the Square and Compass, (non-plural) and a few jurisdictions omit the "G" at its center.

But, no matter its slightly different look, all Freemasons are in unison as to what this symbol means to them within the fraternity.    

The Letter G stands for "Geometry", which is the mathematical science upon which Architecture and Masonry were founded.


23 posted on 07/26/2012 8:55:39 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow
Freedom from Religion Guilt (but not Judgment) Foundation Inc.

Have a nice day, Heathens.

24 posted on 07/26/2012 8:58:42 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: marshmallow

I perceive a threat to me, my family, friends, loved ones, and all that hold dear. When does it become our Christian duty to rise up en masse and slaughter the enemy within the gates?


25 posted on 07/26/2012 8:59:51 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Salvation; agere_contra

No, the thing on the Steubenville logo is a stylized representation of the Veterans Memorial Bridge over the Ohio River. It doesn’t have anything to do with Freemasonry.


26 posted on 07/26/2012 9:48:48 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: IbJensen

The Franciscan University of Steubenville should change its name to the Franciscan University of Ohio. Stop giving free publicity to the city of Steubenville.


27 posted on 07/26/2012 10:01:38 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: marshmallow
From here:

Steubenville leaders asked Franciscan to create a new symbol to be a part of the city's logo, Franciscan declined, because the university is strongly associated with and recognized by that symbol.

In other words, FUS isn't ashamed of the cross of Christ and isn't interested in participating in the de-Christianization of society. :-)

28 posted on 07/26/2012 10:52:47 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Campion

Hopefully you are right.


29 posted on 07/26/2012 3:45:56 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SERKIT

really? why?


30 posted on 07/27/2012 2:07:54 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Salvation
I'll let you be the judge. :-)

Veterans Memorial Bridge, Steubenville, OH

31 posted on 07/27/2012 5:30:42 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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