Skip to comments.Israel and Edom: The Seesaw
Posted on 07/27/2012 7:38:52 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
In this week's Torah portion, Devarim, Moses relates how G-d directed him not to have the Nation of Israel pass through the land of Edom, the descendants of Esau. G-d promised the land of Edom to Esau, and Israel was directed not to initiate any hostilities with his descendants. Even today, we cannot think of warring with America, Russia or Europe, all of whom are Esau's descendants.
Our Sages teach that Jerusalem and Rome, which represents Edom's capital, have a symbiotically inverse relationship: When one ascends, the other descends.
It will be reality, a.k.a. G-d, Who will avenge the rivers of Jewish blood spilled by Edom. It is mind-boggling to witness the crumbling of the 2,000 year old civilization that emerged from Rome. Those who want their children to be able to manage in America or Europe one generation from now, had best teach them Arabic or Spanish.
Rome is descending. Jerusalem is on its way up.
'Edom is Rome. The Arabs (not all moslems) are Yishma`'el.
Thank you for correcting the three thousand year old wisdom received at Sinai with your personal opinion.
I'm not Jewish, so Arabs are no more my cousins than they are yours.
On a slightly different topic - have you seen this?
Wait a minute ZC, are you saying that at Sinai, G-d revealed that Edom was Rome? I must have missed that scripture, where is it?
Since there are no vowels or punctuation in the Scriptures (they were preserved by the Oral Tradition), you'd better take all the vowels and punctuation out of your Protestant translation. As a matter of fact, since your Protestant translation assumes the authenticity of the Oral Tradition to preserve the correct vowels and punctuation, maybe you'd better throw it away, since it is based on "the doctrines and commandments of men."
You know, the Torah commands in some places that offerings be "heaved" and in others that offerings (and sometimes people) be "waved." But I can't seem to find the scripture where it gives the instructions of exactly how to do this. Do you think you can find it? What's that . . . you can't??? Oh dearie me . . . whatever shall we do? [/sarcasm]
Please spare me your sola scriptura Protestant apologetics. Save that for the Catholics.
OK, I’m Catholic. Please tell me also how 3000 years ago Moses was told Rome is Edom?
in other words, you have no scriptural support whatsoever for your Rome equals Edom theory?
Edomites are the offspring of Esau, who was a descendent of Abraham. They are true Semites - descendents of Shem.
Romans are probably not Semites, unless you believe that the Trojan (Turk)refugee Aeneas founded Rome. Neither are the Khazarian (Turk Mongol) Jews, who converted in the 9th century.