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Black couple denied wedding at Mississippi church July 30, 2012
ABC ^ | 7.30.2012 | ABC

Posted on 07/30/2012 4:16:00 PM PDT by Morgana

A rally will be held Monday night in Crystal Springs, Mississippi after a black couple wasn’t allowed to get married at their church because of their race.

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The Wilsons were told they couldn’t wed at the town's First Baptist Church because it goes against tradition since a black couple had never been married there in its 129-year history.

Charles Wilson and his fiance, Te'Andrea, wanted to get married there, but church members got upset. The paster then asked the couple to take their wedding elsewhere.

"This had never been done here before, so it was setting a new precedent, and there were those who reacted to that," said Pastor Stan Weatherford.

"All we wanted to do in the eyes of God was to be man and wife in a church where we thought we felt loved,” said Charles Wilson.

Pastor Weatherford presided over the couple’s wedding at a nearby church. He says he wanted to avoid controversy and protect the couple.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian
KEYWORDS: baptist; charleswilson; church; gannett; lamestream; leftism; liberallies; mississippi; stanweatherford; teandrea; weatherford
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So it's 1950 again?
1 posted on 07/30/2012 4:16:06 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Facepalm.


2 posted on 07/30/2012 4:18:19 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: Morgana

I think I read tis story on another thread over the weekend. Unless this is becoming more common.


3 posted on 07/30/2012 4:19:23 PM PDT by rem_mitchell
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To: Morgana

They can go to the church, but they can’t get married there? Time to find another church.


4 posted on 07/30/2012 4:20:01 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: Morgana

A friend of mine told me that back in the 70s members of his church were knocking on doors inviting people to church. One guy asked what they were supposed to do if a black answered the door. My friend told him “Invite them to church or tell them to go to hell”.


5 posted on 07/30/2012 4:20:53 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Morgana

You can be married in the eyes of God without a church being involved. “Church” is any time two or more come together in HIS name.


6 posted on 07/30/2012 4:22:48 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Morgana

If this is really true, shame on those church people that would not support this. We rail against Blacks because there are no men in the house and then when a Black man and a Black woman want to get married, refuse to allow them to do it in a church of their choice. This is despicable.


7 posted on 07/30/2012 4:24:23 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Morgana

8 posted on 07/30/2012 4:27:59 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Terry Mross
The illiterates at ABC refer to the preacher as a paster [sic]. What other aspects of this story are also wrong? The All Barack Channel will stoop to any depths to disparage the South in general and Mississippi in particular. Until a credible source confirms this story, I remain skeptical.
9 posted on 07/30/2012 4:28:17 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Grams A

This whole story smells funny to me.


10 posted on 07/30/2012 4:29:08 PM PDT by Walrus (ICH BIN EIN ARIZONAN!)
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To: rem_mitchell

>>A rally will be held Monday night in Crystal Springs, Mississippi after a black couple wasn’t allowed to get married at their church because of their race.

Ahh wonderful. A rally! The media is stirring the pot on this, keeping this week-old story alive. This church will probably burn down or be vandalized and that’s another victory for the secular media.


11 posted on 07/30/2012 4:29:08 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Grams A; Morgana

Not just “a church of their choice,” but the church where they were regular attendees. (I think it’s reasonable for a church not to hold weddings for people who aren’t members of the congregation.) The pastor should have said, “Guess what, folks: we have a new tradition! Anyone who attends this church can get married here!”


12 posted on 07/30/2012 4:30:54 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("To contracept is to rebuke a woman for being a woman." ~ Donald DeMarco)
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To: Morgana
I call BS.

More likely this is a Dnc/msm campaign stunt to gin up the Obama voter base.

13 posted on 07/30/2012 4:32:55 PM PDT by rhinohunter (DraftWalkerNow)
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To: Morgana
Why would they want to be married at a church that refuses to marry them? There are plenty of other churches that will gladly do it.

But before anyone suggests forcing the church to marry them, consider the consequences. IMHO, the government should never have any power to compel anything of a church-and vice versa.

14 posted on 07/30/2012 4:33:08 PM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
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To: Walrus
This whole story smells funny to me.

I'm with you - my finely calibrated BS detector tells me that there's probably a lot more to this story.

15 posted on 07/30/2012 4:33:25 PM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (Mandrake gestures hypnotically)
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To: Morgana

WTH? Are we sure it isn’t a Westboro Baptist God hates everyone church?

This makes no sense and it is racist. Against tradition because no other blacks have been married there? Just dumb, I wonder how big they are.


16 posted on 07/30/2012 4:34:02 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: GeronL

Totally agree!

AFAIAC this is a distraction. How many members does this church have?

I seriously doubt they gather in His name.


17 posted on 07/30/2012 4:34:34 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Morgana

18 posted on 07/30/2012 4:36:02 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Lx

I missed something.

The Pastor who refused their marriage at his church then marries them at another church?

I agree with the people who thinks something is wrong about this story.


19 posted on 07/30/2012 4:38:01 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: prisoner6

Seriously, I bet this stupidity is going to cost them a lot of members and donations. I am not sure it should be illegal since churches should be free to make their own rules and stuff, though.


20 posted on 07/30/2012 4:38:20 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Tax-chick

“The pastor should have said, “Guess what, folks: we have a new tradition! Anyone who attends this church can get married here!””

Most Baptist Pastors serve at the pleasure of the Board of Elders. They typically live in church owned parsonage. The pastor is hostage to the whims of the church leadership.


21 posted on 07/30/2012 4:39:13 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: re_nortex

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20120728/NEWS/207280337/Church-closes-door-black-couple-denies-wedding?odyssey=nav|head


22 posted on 07/30/2012 4:42:30 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: Morgana
The paster then asked the couple to take their wedding elsewhere.

>So it's 1950 again?<

In the 1950s local journalists and their copy editors knew how to spell pastor.

I question the veracity of this column. Were the bride and groom members of the church?

23 posted on 07/30/2012 4:43:02 PM PDT by Jacquerie (I want my America back.)
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To: Rebelbase

Oh, then I can see that’s being a problem for the pastor.

Maybe other posters are right about there being more to the story. For instance, if the church building is a desirable historic venue, the congregation should be within their rights to say, “We only hold weddings for church members.” However, an earlier article I read said the couple attended the church.


24 posted on 07/30/2012 4:43:31 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("To contracept is to rebuke a woman for being a woman." ~ Donald DeMarco)
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To: All; Morgana
This doesn't make sense. It's their regular church, so they're members. Is the building going to take offense? Too weird and, obviously, the minister still performed the wedding at another location so it wasn't his objection.

What part did the Obama administration reelection operation play in this?

Where's Holder?

25 posted on 07/30/2012 4:43:53 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Pontius Pilate 'voters' are arrogant, delusional, lilly-livered collaborators.)
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To: Morgana

If this story is true, it’s disgusting. Shame on the parishioners. Shame on the pastor.


26 posted on 07/30/2012 4:46:06 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Tax-chick

Attending a Baptist church does not make you a member. You either have to be baptized in that church or join by letter from another church that states you have been saved and baptized by their church OR you can join by a statement of faith which states you have been saved and baptized. Just attending for 50 years does not make you a member.

I honestly do not know if our church constitution allows only for members to get married in the church or not and I honestly do not remember a single couple getting married in our church that were not members.

The church constitution rules though if it states members only then it is members only. Our Pastor may perform a wedding at another church or at a secular place that rents out for weddings and receptions.


27 posted on 07/30/2012 4:52:38 PM PDT by mikesmad
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To: Morgana

Even ignoring the racism, since when does “not ever having done something before” constitute a “tradition”? I’ve never eaten yogurt but that doesn’t make it a freaking tradition.


28 posted on 07/30/2012 4:57:20 PM PDT by Sloth (If a tax break counts as "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should be a "deposit.")
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To: Rebelbase
Thanks for the ping and a link to an article in the Jackson newspaper. The Clarion-Ledger is owned by Gannett, the far left pack of liars that runs USA Today. While this does seem to confirm the crux of the story, I have to wonder what facts are being omitted? It seems to me that an liberal agenda or a setup may (emphasis intended) be involved, especially considering the community of Crystal Springs is 55% black.
29 posted on 07/30/2012 4:57:53 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Morgana

hmmmmmmm....As presented, the church is way wrong on this.


30 posted on 07/30/2012 4:58:30 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Morgana

Should have just said we only marry church members in good standing.


31 posted on 07/30/2012 5:04:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Sloth
It's not that the "church" somehow decided that they couldn't be married there. The story from people claiming to be members is that a few members "bullied" the minister into not having the wedding. If that's the case they probably had clout for one reason or another.

So I guess there's a kind of deniability here in that those people aren't going to identify themselves and, if they are identified, they can always say that race wasn't the reason, that it was just that they weren't "our kind of people," that this wasn't the sort of wedding you wanted to have here, or something of that sort.

32 posted on 07/30/2012 5:04:05 PM PDT by x
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To: Rebelbase

The Rev. Stan Weatherford is a gutless coward if he allowed the membership to force his hand here. He should have told off the members who complained to him in the first place and placed the right choice over the whims of a few peckerwoods.


33 posted on 07/30/2012 5:04:57 PM PDT by Last of the Mohicans
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To: Morgana

Of course, if nobody had ever been married in the church, it might explain alot. The article never says anybody had been, merely no black couple had been married there in 129 years.


34 posted on 07/30/2012 5:14:18 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Tax-chick

I hear bits and pieces of church saga from some of GF’s family that attend the neighborhood Baptist Church. I’d bet a month’s paycheck that the elders board there would be hiring a new pastor if the current one crossed into any cultural territory that broke tradition.


35 posted on 07/30/2012 5:14:32 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: Morgana

http://www.wlbt.com/story/19125864/black-wedding-banned-by-baptist-church

http://www.wlbt.com/category/240213/video-landing-page?clipId=7556244&autostart=true


36 posted on 07/30/2012 5:15:16 PM PDT by IAMIUBU
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To: Bryanw92

And you don’t think the community should make a statement about the church’s position?


37 posted on 07/30/2012 5:16:34 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: re_nortex
Until a credible source confirms this story, I remain skeptical.

I too feel like we're not hearing the whole story. Could there actually be another reason they were denied? This doesn't pass the smell test.
38 posted on 07/30/2012 5:22:45 PM PDT by 762X51
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To: Morgana
Okay . . . most of the time I'm lambasting Blacks for being so stuck in the past and stubbornly left wing, but this? Godfrey Daniel.

A Black heterosexual couple who attend that church can't get married in it because no Black couple had ever been married in it before? Why did it admit them as members if they were going to have to go elsewhere to get married?

Are the members of that church against the idea of Blacks procreating or something?

As a very loud and unapologetic defender of poor Southern rural whites, I'm going to say something I will probably regret later, but here it goes: some stereotypes really are true.

39 posted on 07/30/2012 5:22:51 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: re_nortex

Have you ever lived in the South?


40 posted on 07/30/2012 5:28:49 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will j rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Morgana

I’m having a hard time believing this.


41 posted on 07/30/2012 5:30:16 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Rebelbase

Most Baptist don’t have Elders, have Deacons. The pastor is still in charge. I attended one of the largest Baptist churches in the country. The pastor said that people of any color were welcome to worship and if someone didn’t like it they could go elsewhere.


42 posted on 07/30/2012 5:35:07 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will j rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I have no idea if there is any truth to this article or not but see my previous post. It says they attended this church which means nothing. Our church has had people that attended for years and years and because they are not members, which occurs in a very specific and defined manner, they cannot teach a class, they cannot keep the nursery, they cannot fill any church office, and it is possible, as I stated, that they cannot get married but I am not sure about that because I do not have a copy of our constitution handy and cannot remember anything about that.


43 posted on 07/30/2012 5:36:00 PM PDT by mikesmad
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To: Morgana

Lizzie Warren is black.....when it’s to her advantage.


44 posted on 07/30/2012 5:40:23 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: mikesmad
I have no idea if there is any truth to this article or not but see my previous post. It says they attended this church which means nothing. Our church has had people that attended for years and years and because they are not members, which occurs in a very specific and defined manner, they cannot teach a class, they cannot keep the nursery, they cannot fill any church office, and it is possible, as I stated, that they cannot get married but I am not sure about that because I do not have a copy of our constitution handy and cannot remember anything about that.

Knowing the nature of our enemies, your skepticism is healthy. The article states specifically that the couple was refused a wedding because of their race. If this is not so, if the refusal was for some other reason, then this church should sue for libel. This type of trick (if that's what it is) is just what the Dems need to get folks' minds off of Obama's endorsement of "gay marriage."

However, if the story is accurate, those responsible for this decision should be ashamed of themselves and subjected to church discipline, if it is available.

45 posted on 07/30/2012 5:42:12 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: 9YearLurker

>>And you don’t think the community should make a statement about the church’s position?

I want to hear the church’s story first. Something sounds fishy about this. The couple says they just wanted to get married someplace where they could feel loved. Obviously, they aren’t members, or have even attended that church. We’re not hearing enough details to condemn this congregation, but the media is certainly using all the keywords to guarantee community outrage.

My church had to turn away a couple this year who wanted to get married and insisted that we let them “borrow” all the tables and chairs from our fellowship hall to take to their house for the reception on a Saturday afternoon. They said that they’d return everything by Sunday morning. We explained that we aren’t in the furniture rental business and they got angry that we’d charge them (as non-members or even attendees) $300 to use the church and not let them take all our tables and chairs off-site.

But, I’m sure their side of the story is that we care more about our furniture than people in the community.


46 posted on 07/30/2012 5:43:57 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

The pastor himself seems to confirm the story and the couple said they’d thought they felt loved at the church, so I’m not seeing anything saying they’ve not at least attended previously.


47 posted on 07/30/2012 5:49:40 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: blueunicorn6

I’m waiting for the NASA thread where you claim she is Martian........when it is convenient.


48 posted on 07/30/2012 5:57:15 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Morgana

If these folks are members of the church or one of them is a member of the church then they should be able to get married to deny that because of race is racism. On the other hand if neither where members then the church has the right to deny them use of the church, most churches have bylaws to govern such things.


49 posted on 07/30/2012 6:03:41 PM PDT by wild74
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To: 9YearLurker; Bryanw92

The article linked in #22 says she’d been attending for about a year, and he had for a month. Actual membership is a different issue, of course.


50 posted on 07/30/2012 6:04:51 PM PDT by Sloth (If a tax break counts as "spending" then every time I don't rob a bank should be a "deposit.")
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