Spam? You have been provided with detailed and laser-precise rebuttals and you call them “spam”! If you are unable to appreciate the depth of these arguments just say so. Why not just admit that the explanations are well beyond your intellectual grasp. I guess Aquinas and Benedict XVI whom TIME magazine has been referred to as the “theological Einstein of our time” are all misguided.
As to the total whitewash within the above concerning the Inquisition, there is a book which tells quite a different story, though I'd bet that in the world of apologetic, there is bound to be some web page somewhere with an in-depth pack 'o lies ad hominem attack against the author D. Juan Antonio LLorente
Available in Google books;
Go read that and get back to us.
Even the "insistence of popes" finally putting an end to it, is overall misleading, as it neglects large portions of the history of it all (only about 1500 years all told).
In the book one can indeed find that popes at various times tried to reign in the worst of the abuses, but even those changes if enacted would still have left many to be burned alive at the stake, starved to death in some cases, tortured in many others.
The details are chilling, but not simply for the results. The methodology of accusation and trial was a great injustice. The author outlines how such came to be, how it grew, and how it finally ended.
I dare say I find the same "spirit" that brought us that horror, still lurking in the shadows of the "Catholic mind". We have seen on these pages previously, not only the horrors of it all excused, when those things could not be fully minimized or explained away, but from some of those same apologists has been expressed the desire to resume the proceedings.
The denials we find today, are exceedingly weak, and believed seemingly only by the RCC faithful whom cannot face the truth concerning those dark centuries of ignorance & fear which had such a nightmarish grip on the minds of people, and was such a real terror among them, for so many centuries. All done in the name of God, in the name of Jesus Christ.
It was the devils work, plain and simple. For those who cannot see that, there is little hope for understanding.
You must be hitting your Priest’s secret stash of consecrated wine if you expect me to read a chapter out of a freakin book, when most of it doesn’t appear to be on the subject at hand. Hurts my eyes just attempting it. Can’t you at least excerpt the relevant part?
“If you are unable to appreciate the depth of these arguments just say so. Why not just admit that the explanations are well beyond your intellectual grasp.”
Please confine your comments to rational statements, rather than attacks on my intelligence. Personal attacks benefit no one.
I’ve posted for years on these threads. There are not many who would claim I lack the intelligence to read your very long cut & paste - if I wanted. However, as I pointed out from just a small clip, your C&P is in error. Tyndale was not attacked for having an inaccurate translation - at least, no one has ever shown why his translation was more inaccurate than any other translation attempted. Thomas More tried and made a fool of himself.
“I guess Aquinas and Benedict XVI whom TIME magazine has been referred to as the theological Einstein of our time are all misguided.”
To the extent that they contradict the clear teaching of scripture, yes. There is no Purgatory. There are no indulgences. The scriptures know nothing about human priests offering sacrifices for our sins, a claim clearly rejected in the book of Hebrews. When forced to choose between Benedict XVI and scripture, I’ll choose the latter.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.