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To: Mountain Mary

Because AA is ill equipped to truly deal with the root of addiction which is a spiritual issue. I not only desire to see a man free from addiction, but living a productive, peaceful, and joyous life. Jesus Christ alone can truly set the addict free. “For whom the Son sets free is free indeed.” Under AA, a man will always be tied to his addiction, he will be an addict for life. Thank God, I’m free, I’m a new person, no longer an addict. Not only am I free, I have an eternal home in an eternal kingdom. AA cannot offer that! I spent a few years in AA before discoveing and coming to understand and experience this great truth. What good is a sober man, if he still dies and goes to hell? Was he really free, or chasing after a lie? A supernatural transformation performed by Christ goes far beyone the reformation offered by AA, as well as other secular programs. GARP offers life!


4 posted on 08/10/2012 4:23:08 PM PDT by evangmlw
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To: evangmlw

I agree with you. I think we all complicate sobriety by thinking it calls for rehab or we have to do it for our kids, etc., etc., but the fact is, it is submission to God and Jesus Christ that heals us.

Your post reminds me of the scripture (I’ll butcher it) that talks about the woman that sweeps out her house but does not believe in God, and the house fills up 7 fold with demons...we MUST replace the addiction with a relationship in Jesus Christ for us to be made whole


5 posted on 08/10/2012 5:29:42 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: evangmlw

Well, whatever helps break the grip of addiction is a plus...

I have been sober for 22 years and AA is the reason.

And it is a spiritual program. You admit powerlessness, identify a power greater than yourself(for most of us: God)and then turn your will over to Him. Works for me!


9 posted on 08/10/2012 7:22:50 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: evangmlw

“I’m a new person..no longer an addict”.

Denial is not a river in Egypt, ev. You may be a new person but you are still an addict.

That said, I am happy for you that you have found such a powerful antidote.


15 posted on 08/11/2012 7:11:29 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: evangmlw
Because AA is ill equipped to truly deal with the root of addiction which is a spiritual issue.

That runs completely counter to my experience, in which the Basic Text and the Big Book (and my sponsor) all specifically state that the root of alcoholism and addiction is a spiritual malady. The solution to 'staying stopped' is spiritual in nature and they lay out practical steps to removing the obstacles between you and God and to serving Him in all your daily affairs.

45 posted on 08/14/2012 6:23:30 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I love the Universe, and it loves me.)
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