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God Wants You Healed
08-17-12 | Frank Broom

Posted on 08/17/2012 8:38:47 PM PDT by Frank Broom

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1 posted on 08/17/2012 8:38:52 PM PDT by Frank Broom
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To: Frank Broom

And he did!


2 posted on 08/17/2012 8:42:22 PM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Frank Broom

Punctuation is also good.


3 posted on 08/17/2012 8:48:10 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

And this has what to do with the subject of the post?


4 posted on 08/17/2012 8:53:10 PM PDT by doc1019 (Given my choices, I will not be voting this time around.)
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To: Frank Broom
God wants all his children to have a resurrection or changed body, like unto Christ's body, too, and it is purchased by the Blood of Christ, but not yet the case.

God wants all the saved in His presence, and it is purchased by the Blood of Christ, but hasn't happened yet.

God wants His Son ruling on David's throne, and it is purchased by the Blood of Christ, but our Lord is not on David's throne in Jerusalem yet.

If all the sick were well . . . it would be the Millennium.

5 posted on 08/17/2012 9:02:07 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: doc1019

God isn’t the author of confusion, but the post is confused.

God does allow adversity to take place in our lives. While the Adversary might intend it for evil, God is still able to use it for good.


6 posted on 08/17/2012 9:02:23 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Frank Broom

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7 posted on 08/17/2012 9:15:00 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Frank Broom

great post. thank you.


8 posted on 08/17/2012 9:17:48 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Frank Broom

Yes. He has brought significant healing to my life and continues to do so. However, there are times when He does not heal. Sometimes we pray for things and the answer is “No.” But we are always to pray and to trust.


9 posted on 08/17/2012 9:19:20 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Frank Broom

This is good stuff, Deacon Broom.

Our Pastor promotes God’s healing power through His Son Jesus. He has opened our eyes to God’s healing power.

Isaiah 53:5(NKJV):

5 But He was wounded for our transgressions,
He was bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
And by His stripes we are healed.

Note well: not “we might be healed, someday” — but “we ARE healed”. In His love for us and His death on the cross of calvary, He already purchased our healing. It’s a “done deal”. Healing is ours for the taking, if we simply in faith reach out and take it.

Praise be to GOD, and to His Son Jesus!

God bless you, and FRegards


10 posted on 08/17/2012 9:20:22 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: Frank Broom

So, how do people who have the kind of faith that brings about God’s healing die?


11 posted on 08/17/2012 9:32:07 PM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname (I really hate not knowing what was said in the deleted posts....)
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To: John Leland 1789

There will be mortals and immortals (ie resurrected in Christ ruling and reigning with Him) in the Millenium.

Remember they talk about the man who died at 100 during this time and people will say he died so young.

besides at the end of the Millenium Satan leads a final rebellion, who do you think will side with Him? Not the resurrected in Christ.


12 posted on 08/17/2012 9:45:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Frank Broom

Why was Paul not healed of the “Thorn in his flesh”?

Why do bad things happen to believers?

A better/higher view of God is required to hint at the answers to the above.


13 posted on 08/17/2012 9:55:27 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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But this is a slap in the face of those with physical suffering. They have faith they claim the healing and this type of preaching would suggest they do not have faith. This is not only wrong but a stumbling block for others. Read some of the writings of Joni Earecksen Tada’s works to find out how this effects people. Her life is an amazing story of faith and inspiration while still suffering in the body. I put her kind of faith into my life on a daily basis.


14 posted on 08/17/2012 10:04:57 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Frank Broom

So, in theory, our Charismatic brothers and sisters should never die.

Or wear eyeglasses.

Or have cavities.

Or any other infirmity.

We ought to see them strolling around a couple thousand years old.


15 posted on 08/17/2012 10:12:45 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Nifster

I agree with you.


16 posted on 08/17/2012 10:21:54 PM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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Jesus wondered if there would be any faith on earth when he came back. With the faith of a mustard seed you can move a mountain. Jesus said that he that believed, the same works would he do as Jesus Himself did, and greater. Faith is compared to gold, which is rare and precious.

For thousands of years people thought about flying, but did not. It wasn't until very recently in time that anyone flew. In all of time it was as possible to fly as it is now, but nobody knew how. An airplane must have all of it's components, plus fuel to fly. Take out any one of many important parts, or change them in the least, and it will not take off.

Faith, I believe, is like this. One must believe correctly, and live correctly, before Almighty God, for Him to answer you with mighty works, impossible apart from His intervention. To have faith, one must believe, and believing defies everything that one has experienced, or has known about the natural world and much of it's history. One, in all reality, must believe in God's ability, and His willingness to do works, that go way beyond our common understanding of how the material world operates.

Because not very many mighty, nature defying, completely unexplainable, apart from God's intervention, feats of faith have been seen or experienced, doesn't mean that they are any less possible then flight by man. It means that few know what it means to believe in God in such a way that He will perform them.

17 posted on 08/18/2012 12:33:09 AM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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So, how do people who have the kind of faith that brings about God’s healing die?

Because the flesh dies, does not mean the soul dies. We are souls; we have bodies. We may receive physical healing on this Earth, but it is the healing and life everlasting that matters most.

At 30 years old, I suffer every day. I have difficulty walking, lifting my children, prolonged standing, prolonged sitting, grocery shopping, cooking, etc etc. It wasn't all that long ago that I could run better than a 6 minute mile.

But, I still count myself fortunate for the Grace of God....I should be dead. Save for the Grace of God, I survived having shrapnel blasted into my lung from an RPG. Save for the Grace of God, I survived being ejected from a HMMWV, walking into a building booby trapped with 3200lbs of explosives, walking down IED laden streets, and being in one of the most intense battles in which 25/46 guys in my platoon were wounded in the course of single day. Save or the Grace of God, I have survived four combat deployments.

While I suffer every day, I still have every day.

While some may question how that means I am better off by retaining this life.......my boys don't because it was after this that they received theirs.

18 posted on 08/18/2012 1:20:17 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded.)
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To: Bellflower

re: “Because not very many mighty, nature defying, completely unexplainable, apart from God’s intervention, feats of faith have been seen or experienced, doesn’t mean that they are any less possible then flight by man. It means that few know what it means to believe in God in such a way that He will perform them.”

No one is denying that God can heal - but, it is according to His will and purpose, not ours.

If you know the scriptures, you’ve read of Paul’s asking God to heal him of an infirmity - but, God said no to Paul,

“My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.” 2 Corinthians 12:9

You guys who preach that healing is a given if only you have the right kind of faith, live the right kind of life, if only you practice/understood real faith, if only you did this or that - you would experience healing.

You take Jesus’s words and twist them out of their context and put burdens on people making them think they are deficient in their faith, that they are the reason they are still suffering. That is sick and the Lord will rebuke you one day for adding to people’s suffering with your unscriptural teachings.

I think most charismatics mean well, but wrong is wrong and you are hurting people’s faith and their spirit, adding to their suffering. God does NOT HEAL everyone. Yes, God does, in His mercy, often heal, remove consequences that we rightfully deserve. God can do anything He wants, but He is not OBLIGATED to heal - that is up to Him.

Yes, faith is absolutely important and the lack of it can be a barrier to receiving all that God wants us to do for Him. Someone quoted Jesus’s words, “Thy will be done on earth, as it is in Heaven”, saying that this means because no one is sick or hurting in heaven means that it can be that way on earth just for the asking, by faith.

That passage is not talking about that at all. The disciples asked Jesus to teach them how to pray, He gave them what is often called the Lord’s Prayer. That phrase, “Thy will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven” is a request. It is a declaration of devotion and desire on our part, as His children, that God’s will be done on the earth, just as it always is in Heaven. This recognizes that not everything that happens on this earth may be God’s moral will - even though He ulimately works all things into obedience to His will.

An example of this is when Jesus was praying over Jerusalem in Luke 13:34 -

“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!”

Notice Jesus says “how often would I have gathered thy children together. . ., and ye would not!” Jesus desired, He WANTED the people of Jerusalem to turn to Him in belief and obedience so He could protect them and save them, but they refused.

This may open a can of worms with our Calvinsit brothers, but that is not my intent or desire at this point in the discussion. I’m just trying to point out that not everything we want, even if asked in faith, in proper attitude, proper understanding, proper living of a holy life - sometimes God just says “No”. He has His reasons and He doesn’t always tell us what those reasons are.

Please, my charismatic friends, stop adding burdens and added suffering to those God choses not to heal - ultimately we will all be “as He is” in Heaven one day. Maranatha, Lord Jesus!


19 posted on 08/18/2012 2:13:49 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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But this is a slap in the face of those with physical suffering. They have faith they claim the healing and this type of preaching would suggest they do not have faith. This is not only wrong but a stumbling block for others. Read some of the writings of Joni Earecksen Tada’s works to find out how this effects people. Her life is an amazing story of faith and inspiration while still suffering in the body. I put her kind of faith into my life on a daily basis.

On this earth until Christ returns our bodies remain under the curse of physical death which includes ailments etc for it is flesh. Although sometimes healings do happen. It is the spirit that is healed and is set free and will inherit a new body in GOD's chosen time.

Adversity can be a tempering tool used to form GOD dependence to His Glory. The question has to be asked. Would Joni have accomplished what she has done and formed the ministry she has if the accident not happened to her? In her weakness we see GOD's Glory manfested. She has reached millions with very serious disabilities. Even in the past year to year and a half she went through yet another serious health trial.

20 posted on 08/18/2012 2:35:07 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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