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Post-Christian America
The Catholic Thing ^ | August 19, 2012 | Fr. C. John McCloskey III

Posted on 08/19/2012 1:51:28 PM PDT by NYer

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Fr. C. John McCloskey III is a Church Historian and Research Fellow at the Faith and Reason Institute in Washington, DC.
1 posted on 08/19/2012 1:51:36 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 08/19/2012 1:52:33 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer
What is the definition of a Christian country?

One in which the government as a whole, supports Christianity.

Does ours?

3 posted on 08/19/2012 2:02:48 PM PDT by Errant
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To: NYer

Problem: There is little or no evidence that Catholics in America, as a group, are more attached to biblical morality than Protestants, particularly conservative Protestants.

Not that this is saying much.


4 posted on 08/19/2012 2:47:55 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: NYer

I’d bet that the majority of Americans could honestly confess the Apostles’ Creed.

I can’t prove it, but I think so. At least all adult Americans.

Which would make this a Christian country, in the cited author’s opinion.


5 posted on 08/19/2012 2:51:30 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: NYer

Reads more like wishful thinking that those “pesky” Protestants will finally go away.


6 posted on 08/19/2012 3:08:16 PM PDT by chargers fan
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To: NYer

Maybe the U.S. should be more like France, a country whose history is saturated with Catholic morality and dominance as well as the blood of those the Catholic church deemed “heretics”.


7 posted on 08/19/2012 3:36:53 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: All

Last time I checked our Government has been a secular plus
the seperation of church and state thing.


8 posted on 08/19/2012 3:49:09 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Romney / Ryan 2012)
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To: NYer

A different alternative would be that conservative Protestants and Roman Catholics meet in conclave to end the 500 year old Reformation schism in the Christian communion.

Many Protestant faiths today have almost forgotten why they split off from each other and the Catholic church. As such many could merge without offense until perhaps just a few remained.

The liberals, of course, would reject such a reunion entirely, as it would be done under the auspices of faith and shared belief, instead of for the purposes of the leftist agenda. But without the conservatives, the religions of liberals evaporate as inconsequential.

The end result would still be the Catholic church and one or more Protestant faiths, but no longer in contention and argument.


9 posted on 08/19/2012 5:06:10 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: count-your-change

Your description might fit France in the 17th Century or before, but Catholicism in France has been in serious decline since the revolution.


10 posted on 08/19/2012 5:07:11 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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As such many could merge without offense until perhaps just a few remained.

Merge into the Catholic Church, right?

11 posted on 08/19/2012 5:10:42 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Campion

Thus “Catholic morality” is in no way superior to any Protestant morality.


12 posted on 08/19/2012 5:34:55 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

In practice or on paper?


13 posted on 08/19/2012 5:48:59 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Unlikely, at least at first. Several Protestant denominations could merge with each other first.

But even a potential merge between the Catholics and Anglicans, who are very doctrinally similar, and wanted by many in both faiths for a very long time, has only recently become possible, after a fashion. Anglicans can now “become Catholic”, while still practicing their Anglican version.


14 posted on 08/19/2012 6:12:29 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Anyone can talk a good fight but the practice is what tells the tale.

Overall, is there a great difference between Catholic and non-Catholic in abortion rates or premarital sex, etc.?

I doubt there is.


15 posted on 08/19/2012 6:53:14 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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You can tell the quality of what a church teaches about Christianity, by which party it’s adherents vote for.

The Catholic church, Episcopalians and other liberal churches produce voters who support the left’s morals and they vote for that.


16 posted on 08/19/2012 7:17:10 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

Yes, liberal sympathizers the whole lot of them.


17 posted on 08/19/2012 7:29:05 PM PDT by AmericanSamurai
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To: Sherman Logan

I would make a distinction between mainline Protestants and the growing number of Evangelical Protestants.


18 posted on 08/19/2012 9:17:32 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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The primary reason is the lack of dogmatic authority in Protestantism and the reliance on the principle of private judgment. Leaving people to rely on only their opinions or feelings as moral guide is not enough to sustain a country that was once Christian and now is increasingly pagan.

Ah, yes, the Protestants are the reason America is going down the toilet! Fr. McCloskey, as the nuns used to tell us in grade school, "Clean off your OWN doorstep before you try to clean off someone else's."

What's with you guys this weekend? Beat up on those Protties so you can feel better about yourselves? So far, you are NOT scoring any points and I highly doubt our Heavenly Father is pleased.

19 posted on 08/19/2012 9:45:48 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: chargers fan
Reads more like wishful thinking that those “pesky” Protestants will finally go away.

When the Rapture happens, we WILL go away - to be with the Lord!

20 posted on 08/19/2012 9:51:34 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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