Posted on 08/28/2012 1:31:45 PM PDT by NYer
.- Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan of New York has accepted an invitation to offer the closing prayer at the upcoming Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, N.C.
“It was made clear to the Democratic Convention organizers, as it was to the Republicans, that the Cardinal was coming solely as a pastor, only to pray, not to endorse any party, platform, or candidate,” New York archdiocese spokesperson Joseph Zwilling said in an Aug. 28 statement.
As previously announced, Cardinal Dolan will also give the benediction at the close of the Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla.
Cardinal Dolan accepted the invitation after consulting and gaining the consent of Bishop Peter Jugis of the Diocese of Charlotte, N.C., since the convention will be taking place in his diocese.
In preparation for the Sept. 3-6 convention, the Diocese of Charlotte has posted two “larger-than-life” banners to publicize the Church’s beliefs about marriage, human life and religious freedom, the Catholic News Herald reported Aug. 25.
The banners are hanging on two buildings owned by the diocese and are within feet of where the convention will take place.
A six-foot by 10-foot banner proclaims, “Religious Liberty, The Soul of Democracy,” while a six-foot by 27-foot banner at another location reads, “Protect the Unborn, Defend Marriage, Safeguard Religious Liberty.”
Cardinal Dolan has been an outspoken critic of the federal contraception mandate issued by the Obama administration in January 2011. It requires employers to offer health insurance plans that cover contraception, sterilization and abortion-inducing drugs, even if doing so violates their consciences.
Numerous dioceses, non-profit organizations and Catholic-owned businesses have sued the administration, arguing that the mandate violates the First Amendment by forcing them to compromise their deeply held religious convictions.
President Obama has also consistently supported legalized abortion and is the first U.S. president to openly advocate a redefining marriage to include homosexual couples.
"His ilk" includes the so-called "Catholic leadership" in this country that has capitulated to a radically secular government whose agenda for this country is an utter abomination by any objective measure.
Ann Barnhart is right. The shepherds have ingratiated themselves with the wolves and invited them into the pasture, while the flock is left to fend for themselves.
"By their fruits you shall know them." -- Matthew 7:16
The real invitees are:
She should stick to market commentary where she has established some credibility . The fact she is also a so called “traditional” Catholic who loves the Latin Mass is admirable. However, it does not follow that this gives her the charism of reading souls. Her slanderous attacks on Cardinal Dolan and her interpretation of his motives is a disgrace. This undermines any credibility she thinks she has in this regard. Here are a few examples
“ YOU are the poster child for the "ravening wolves" class of wretched clergy.”
“We both know that you don't even believe in hell”
“Cardinal Dolan, along with the majority of the bishops and priests in the western world today DON'T ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, HIS CHURCH, OR THE EUCHARIST.”
Ann needs to be called to repentance rather than be held up as some type of Catholic hero.
I don't know much about Dolan,
Obviously
but if he is honoring Obama and any of the other pro-abortion, pro-communist, thieves in Washington, then she is right about him.
Has anyone seen an endorsement by Dolan for Obama or Romney? Is engaging the enemy a bad thing?
All I can say is that if the rest of the US had the same balls as Barnhardt, we would have overthrown this corrupt government by now and re-instituted the US Constitution, instead of hoping and praying that a corrupt, immoral jackass like Romney is going to save us.
Ann is fine within her area of expertise. She is not an expert on Dolan, his motives or the state of his soul.
Last I checked the Bishops led by Dolan are fighting the HHS mandate, abortion and same sex marriage. In what area have they capitulated?
Ann Barnhart is right. The shepherds have ingratiated themselves with the wolves and invited them into the pasture, while the flock is left to fend for themselves.
Ann needs to get over herself. Earlier this year she had a post on her blog that stated she expected Cardinal Dolan to cave quickly on the HHS mandate and prayed she would be wrong. I sent her an e-mail and said not to worry, her prayers would be answered and Cardinal Dolan won’t cave. Now she predicts
“ Dolan will eventually tell Catholics that they should "comply under duress" with the HHS mandate, and that it will be "morally acceptable" to pay for abortion, contraception and sterilization, so long as the Catholic "doesn't like it" and does it only "under protest".
She’s a fool and this prediction will also not come to pass. I would suggest all the Dolan bashers take of their secular hats and replace with their spiritual one. The truth of the matter is nothing will happen to the Church unless God permits it. He’s in charge not us. There’s a reason Cardinal Dolan is leading the effort and not Ann Barnhardt.
I don’t believe it’s a stretch to infer Obama, and Romney for that matter, know full well the position of Dolan and the Bishops. The position statement and the lawsuits are out there.
Inviting him to participate in a dinner, without engaging him, is an honor.
I trust the judgment of Cardinal Dolan on this. He knows what he’s doing.
I have been following Cardinal Dolan since he became Chairman of the USCCB. His body of work suggest he’s a bright, articulate defender of the faith.
Or are you just assuming he knows what he's doing because he's so high up in the ranks?
I don’t assume anything. I also take the word of Catholic League president Bill Donohue who is a personal friend of his. He posted on his site the following:
“The fundamental difference between Cardinal Dolan and these critics comes down to one thing: he is a man of principle and they don’t know how to spell the word. He invited President Obama to the Al Smith Dinner, knowing he would receive flak from some on the right. Then he agreed to speak at the RNC, knowing he would be blasted by some on the left. Now he has accepted an invitation to speak at the DNC and none of his critics—on both the left and the right—can figure him out.”
“What this shows is that Cardinal Dolan is able to rise above the politics of the moment. But to those who view the world exclusively through the lens of power, this is completely unintelligible.”
He does. To some maybe not loud or long enough but it’s difficult to please everybody.
Abortion and homosexuality are two issues about which the Church speaks rather firmly, yet Dolan, as well as other American clergy, has not condemned the Left's positions on these issues.
Yes they have.
Under those conditions, how can Dolan consider being impartial to be a good thing?
His position is well know to those who pay attention.
How can he hobnob with Democrats, or tacitly support their convention by appearing there, and still consider himself to be a servant of God and the Church?
Dolan isn’t tacitly supporting their convention. You sound like a modern day Pharisee. Does “Hobnobbing” with sinners not meet your expectations of what a Cardinal or Bishop is expected to do? Did Jesus set an example regarding this?
in this instance appears to mean that he refuses to take a stand on these very fundamental issues so that he can be friends with both parties.
Donohue was correct, “those who view the world exclusively through the lens of power, this is completely unintelligible.”
The Catholic bishops in this country can't even figure out how to deal with prominent Catholics in our national leadership who are complicit in these kinds of abominations ... to the point where a Catholic family has to turn to the civil court system to deal with an abomination like this involving a CATHOLIC public official. Sorry to be blunt about this, but if these bishops had any b@lls they would have publicly excommunicated people like Nancy Pelosi and Kathy Sebelius by name years ago.
It's one thing to "engage the enemy," as you've said elsewhere on this thread, but the time for engagement is over when your institution is involved in lawsuits against that "enemy." Under no circumstances should a religious leader extend an invitation to a civil government official who has openly engaged in the exercise of his or her civil authority in a manner that udnermines the moral foundation of those religious believers and threatens to persecute them. "Rendering unto Caesar" does not mean inviting him to dinner (for a major fund-raiser, by the way) or showing up at his palace for a photo-op when he has already taken such an adversarial stance.
“Her slanderous attacks on Cardinal Dolan and her interpretation of his motives is a disgrace.”
I do believe her remarks are slanderous.
There are many times when I believe that the cyber world has robbed us of our need to weigh the prudence about the words we write and to consider their consequences.
The last time I looked, the word “contumely” was still there in my (Catholic) “Moral Guidance” book.
As a prominent Catholic in New York City, I wonder if Bill Donohue himself is attending the Al Smith Dinner in October with Barack Obama and Mitt Romney.
Can’t say I disagree with you on this.
Under no circumstances should a religious leader extend an invitation to a civil government official who has openly engaged in the exercise of his or her civil authority in a manner that udnermines the moral foundation of those religious believers and threatens to persecute them.
Says you
"Rendering unto Caesar" does not mean inviting him to dinner (for a major fund-raiser, by the way) or showing up at his palace for a photo-op when he has already taken such an adversarial stance.
Who said this was a photo-op? Do you also have the charism of reading souls like Ann Barnhardt does?
Don’t know and don’t care. I can tell you for a fact I didn’t get an invite :-)
I only provided a few examples of some of her comments and if you really believe they aren’t slanderous then I would suggest you pay closer attention.
I also posted one of her Cardinal Dolan predications she totally whiffed on and her most current one which will also be a whiff. She has zero credibility regarding Cardinal Dolan. But if you want to join her little band of disgruntled Catholics go for it. For me it’s no sale.
On a side note, I do enjoy her Market Commentaries.
Well, I suppose we’ve beaten this subject to death by now. I actually hope you are right about Dolan. It’s just that, in this day and age, it is so rare to find someone who actually believes in anything enough to stick their necks out for it, that I pretty much assume they are milquetoasts until I see concrete evidence otherwise.
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