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To: pegleg
“What this shows is that Cardinal Dolan is able to rise above the politics of the moment. But to those who view the world exclusively through the lens of power, this is completely unintelligible.”

This does not sound like a positive to me. A cardinal is not a politician - he is not supposed to be bi-partisan. He is supposed to be a shepherd of his flock. To me, that would mean that he needs to speak loudly about issues regarding the faith and Church doctrine.

Abortion and homosexuality are two issues about which the Church speaks rather firmly, yet Dolan, as well as other American clergy, has not condemned the Left's positions on these issues. Obama has not only supported abortion all the way up to partial birth abortion, but he has just recently declared his support for gay marriage. In fact, I believe the Democrats are adding gay marriage to their platform (abortion is already there).

Under those conditions, how can Dolan consider being impartial to be a good thing? How can he hobnob with Democrats, or tacitly support their convention by appearing there, and still consider himself to be a servant of God and the Church? "Rising above politics" in this instance appears to mean that he refuses to take a stand on these very fundamental issues so that he can be friends with both parties.
30 posted on 08/29/2012 7:19:51 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak
To me, that would mean that he needs to speak loudly about issues regarding the faith and Church doctrine.

He does. To some maybe not loud or long enough but it’s difficult to please everybody.

Abortion and homosexuality are two issues about which the Church speaks rather firmly, yet Dolan, as well as other American clergy, has not condemned the Left's positions on these issues.

Yes they have.

Under those conditions, how can Dolan consider being impartial to be a good thing?

His position is well know to those who pay attention.

How can he hobnob with Democrats, or tacitly support their convention by appearing there, and still consider himself to be a servant of God and the Church?

Dolan isn’t tacitly supporting their convention. You sound like a modern day Pharisee. Does “Hobnobbing” with sinners not meet your expectations of what a Cardinal or Bishop is expected to do? Did Jesus set an example regarding this?

in this instance appears to mean that he refuses to take a stand on these very fundamental issues so that he can be friends with both parties.

Donohue was correct, “those who view the world exclusively through the lens of power, this is completely unintelligible.”

31 posted on 08/29/2012 7:55:33 AM PDT by pegleg (Lies will seek you out, but the truth must be sought.)
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