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New revelation: Mormons can drink Coke or Pepsi
National Post ^ | Sep 4, 2012 | Religion News Service

Posted on 09/04/2012 8:06:42 AM PDT by freedomlover

SALT LAKE CITY — Maybe now, reporters, bloggers, outsiders and even many Mormons will accept that the Utah-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not forbid drinking cola.

On Aug. 29, the LDS church posted a statement on its website saying that “the church does not prohibit the use of caffeine” and that the faith’s health-code reference to “hot drinks” “does not go beyond (tea and coffee).”

A day later, the website wording was slightly softened, saying only that “the church revelation spelling out health practices … does not mention the use of caffeine.”

The same goes for the church’s two-volume handbook, which LDS leaders use to guide their congregations. It says plainly that “the only official interpretation of ‘hot drinks’ … in the Word of Wisdom is the statement made by early church leaders that the term ‘hot drinks’ means tea and coffee.”

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1 posted on 09/04/2012 8:06:51 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: freedomlover
The mormons but a bunch of Coke cola stock and put their mark on the cans a couple decades ago and could drink it in the 80’s.
2 posted on 09/04/2012 8:09:32 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: freedomlover

The lds-org denies that Jesus is the Creator, that everything was created THROUGH Him, BY Him and FOR Him.

They deny that Jesus created even the angels out of nothing.

They do NOT teach the truth about Jesus.

3 posted on 09/04/2012 8:10:20 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: freedomlover

One of my fellow Platoon Leaders in my first unit was a pretty devout Mormon, and even he drank the occasional soda. I asked him about it, and he said it had been OK to do for a few years at that point. This was back in 2005.


4 posted on 09/04/2012 8:10:31 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Meanwhile this long running drink seems to have Paul Ryan (look alike) on the can.

5 posted on 09/04/2012 8:12:51 AM PDT by raccoonradio (")
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To: freedomlover

Those silly mormons can’t make up their minds. Thousands of changes to their scriptures and now they can drink caffeine as long as it’s not hot.

Next they’ll be able to wear Hanes.

And if Romney gets in, we’ll probably have gay marriage followed by polygamy and then they can restore the mormon’s “eternal covenant” of polygamy that they so quickly abandoned just to become a state.


6 posted on 09/04/2012 8:13:18 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: mountainlion

I am curious as to what “mark” you are refering to. Food sometimes has onr or two marks indicating it is kosher. Perhaps that is what you saw.


7 posted on 09/04/2012 8:14:27 AM PDT by Pecos (Double tap: the only acceptable gun control)
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To: freedomlover
So Gløgg ia allowed?
8 posted on 09/04/2012 8:15:24 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: freedomlover

That’s a step in the right direction. So now you can drink Iced Tea and Ice Coffee? When they let you drink an occasional glass of wine or beer, let me know.

The Mormon Church was founded in a period of American History that was very strong in the Temperence Movement. Maine was the first dry state in 1851. The passage of the law, which prohibited the sale of all alcoholic beverages except for “medicinal, mechanical or manufacturing purposes,” quickly spread elsewhere, and by 1855 twelve states had joined Maine in total prohibition.

The Republican Party was founded by a coalition of Whigs, Anti-Slavery, No-Nothing Nativists and Temperance Movement


9 posted on 09/04/2012 8:16:21 AM PDT by StevenFlorida
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To: Pecos
I never saw the mark but read about it. It was a mormom type of kosher mark though.
10 posted on 09/04/2012 8:16:24 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: fishtank

O.K.

Remember that when there is an election for Pope or Bishop, or Pastor, or whatever, in your church. Don’t elect any Mormon.

Now, be a good boy and go out and support Mitt Romney for President because he is a damn site better than the Marxist Muslim Kenyan Keynsian liar in the Oval Office now.

By the way, I’m not a Mormon and I love caffeine - always did. A good beer too.


11 posted on 09/04/2012 8:17:08 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: DannyTN

Bigotry isn’t funny. I am not a Mormon, but I do respect people’s (even yours) religious beliefs.


12 posted on 09/04/2012 8:17:45 AM PDT by StevenFlorida
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To: freedomlover

Grape Nehi futures crash...


13 posted on 09/04/2012 8:18:44 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1324 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: freedomlover

WOW! Mormons letting their hair down. but anyway.....

Hebrews 13:8
New International Version (NIV)

8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.


14 posted on 09/04/2012 8:19:18 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: freedomlover
I tell you, I won't live in a town that robs men of the right to marry their cousins!

Shelbyville Manhattan

15 posted on 09/04/2012 8:24:29 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: StevenFlorida

I don’t respect a religion that is constantly changing it’s scripture or rules.

I don’t respect a religion that became a religion by denigrating previous scripture saying it was full of errors and omissions like Islam and Mormons claimed about previous scripture.

I don’t respect a religion that claims to be “I’m Christian too”, but is really there to lure Christians away. And the first thing you learn is that Joseph Smith had a vision where all the Christian denominations were abominations.

The magic underwear just lends itself to ridicule. I find it funny.


16 posted on 09/04/2012 8:25:48 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

What is your denomination? I will do some research on it and trash it. Thanks . Specifically , I need the name of the church.


17 posted on 09/04/2012 8:28:36 AM PDT by StevenFlorida
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To: StevenFlorida

I try to follow the teachings of Christ. Said another way, I try to be a disciple of Christ.

Trash away.


18 posted on 09/04/2012 8:31:00 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: freedomlover

That’s not fair. What denomination is it? I wanna have some fun, like you.


19 posted on 09/04/2012 8:33:30 AM PDT by StevenFlorida
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To: DannyTN

When I was little, you could only have fish on Friday. By the time I grew up, meat was optional.

Things change. Mormons haven’t cornered the market on it.


20 posted on 09/04/2012 8:33:51 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Romney/Ryan 2012)
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To: DannyTN

Yeah, so inconsistent. Not like those Catholics. Meat on Friday is a mortal sin, going to hell. Oh wait, never mind!


21 posted on 09/04/2012 8:35:49 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: StevenFlorida; DannyTN
What is your denomination?

I'm curious too. People do not vigorously spar about what they know to be true, only what they fear may not be true.

22 posted on 09/04/2012 8:36:10 AM PDT by Reeses (An optimist believes the Republicans nominated their best. A pessimist knows they did.)
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To: raccoonradio
That's funny. We were invited to a bizarre party on a float the other afternoon to celebrate completion of restoration work on two motor yachts. One of them was named the Moxie, so they served Moxie as well as the usual stuff. Since it was too early in the day for me to start on alcohol, I had a couple of Moxies. Not bad, although this may be the only time I ever drink it.


23 posted on 09/04/2012 8:37:03 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: freedomlover

For that refreshing Nuke-Clear Taste!

24 posted on 09/04/2012 8:38:10 AM PDT by KC_Lion ( Wherever I find myself standing, I forever stand with Israel.)
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To: DannyTN
I will take the fake Christian any day to the EVIL MUZZIE!
25 posted on 09/04/2012 8:38:10 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will j rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: StevenFlorida
"What is your denomination? I will do some research on it and trash it. Thanks . Specifically , I need the name of the church."

Southern Baptist

Here's a news flash. All religions and all cultures are not equal. It's why the world rejected Cannibalism.


26 posted on 09/04/2012 8:38:50 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: StevenFlorida

Steven, there are many of us who are non-denominational, who follow scripture, not man-made organizations. Many of us.

We call ourselves Christians. We worship with other non-affiliated believers in local groups.

We consider our church to be the universal body of believers to which God the Father adds us when we believe in his Son. (Acts 2, when the church began). We welcome you, and any other believer, to join us.


27 posted on 09/04/2012 8:39:12 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: mountainlion

I suppose that lime flavored jello with small carrot strips embedded is still OK too?


28 posted on 09/04/2012 8:40:16 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: freedomlover; StevenFlorida
I try to follow the teachings of Christ

You mean like these?

Judge not, that ye be not judged.

So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

29 posted on 09/04/2012 8:40:42 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: mountainlion

The mormons but a bunch of Coke cola stock and put their mark on the cans a couple decades ago and could drink it in the 80’s.


Yup.

This was not new news to me either. It’s weird it’s being presented that way.


30 posted on 09/04/2012 8:41:12 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: StevenFlorida

I don’t belong to a particular denomination. I have attended Baptist, Catholic, and most recently, Mormon churches. You are welcome to bash them if you wish. In my opinion none of them are perfect.

Frankly in my opinion whenever “man” gets involved, he tends to screw things up in light of mans ego and thirst for control of others. At the same time, Jesus encouraged his followers to meet in his Name, and in my opinion meeting with other like-minded followers can strengthen one’s faith.

Back to the thread, is there something about its posting that upsets you or you consider to be “bashing”? As far as I know, it is true, and was discussed in at least two Sunday church meetings in a local Mormon church, so it is a relevant discussion point.

Thanks


31 posted on 09/04/2012 8:45:06 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: DannyTN
The magic underwear is funny to those of us who don't share that faith. But every faith is loaded with absurdities. More mainstream faiths just have the benefit of longevity on their side. Although I can't think of any kneeslappers coming out of Judaism off the top of my head.
32 posted on 09/04/2012 8:45:06 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Larry Lucido; SaxxonWoods
"When I was little, you could only have fish on Friday. By the time I grew up, meat was optional."

Yeah but the Catholics never changed their scripture. The Friday fish was never based on scripture. It was just a tradtion.

I don't know if the Mormon hot drink rule is based on their scripture or not. But the "eternal covenant of polygamy" is in their scriptures. And it is worthy of ridicule.

33 posted on 09/04/2012 8:45:14 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Larry Lucido

Common denominator in your examples is that men’s rules always change. And men always make rules. And men always mess things up, complicate things till they’re corrupted.

Take our government, for example. Look at what the Constitution says and what a colossal mess the courts have made of it. The tax code, myriad other examples.

Everything manmade changes, deteriorates.

We wouldn’t have an epidemic of pedophile priests if some robed churchmen hadn’t decided to alter nature and enforce celibacy on its leadership. Of course it attracted the perverted.

Ought to get some incoming fire for that, but it’s true.


34 posted on 09/04/2012 8:45:33 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: MNJohnnie
MNJohnnie, with all seriousness, do you think it is possible to criticize someone or something and still to be Christlike?

Must one be perfect, as Christ was, in order to be able to criticize?

35 posted on 09/04/2012 8:53:21 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: freedomlover

You are not acting in a Christ like spirit and you know it.


36 posted on 09/04/2012 8:54:32 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
"Judge not, that ye be not judged."

That's a frequently misunderstood scripture. Scripture commmands us to "Rebuke our neighbor frankly, so that we do not share in his sin." It tells us to warn the wicked. It tells us to discern spirits.

The kind of judging that we aren't supposed to do. Is the kind that Jonah did. (You should read it, it's short, only 4 chapters). Jonah knew that the city of Ninevah was wicked. Everyone did, including God and Jonah. That's not judging them in the context of the above scripture. That's just recognizing evil.

Jonah was unwilling to go preach to them. He was supposed to go warn them and offer them God's mercy if they repented. Jonah didn't want them to repent. He wanted them to get what was coming to them.

So what follwed is Jonah ran away, ended up in the belly of a fish for three days and got burped out back on land. Which convinced him that maybe he should go preach to Ninevah. Ninevah did repent and Jonah became angry because he had judged them unworthy of God's grace. And in chapter 4 God takes Jonah to task for judging them.

It's not ridiculing evil or the false beliefs that is judging. Prophets of God did that in scripture. It's failure to see their potential and failure to love them despite their actions. That's judging.

"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

No one is suggesting we kill the Mormons. We're simply pointing out their errors in hopes they will see the Light.

37 posted on 09/04/2012 8:56:08 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: freedomlover
It is too bad that people fall into the deception of Mormonism because they don't know Scripture (real Scripture, not the made-up stuff of Joseph Smith). All of Colossians 2 speak to the regulations of man-made religions but verses 21-23 summarize their value:

21 “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch”

22 (referring to things that all perish as they are used)—according to human precepts and teachings?

23 These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.

When confronted by my Mormon friends about coffee, I always ask them about their meat consumption on hot days. It seems that even Mormons don't take all the "Words of Wisdom" too seriously. I then take them to Colossians 2 and show them that God thinks their little regulations are foolishness. They always leave me alone about my coffee after that.

38 posted on 09/04/2012 8:56:38 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: StevenFlorida
ah, No. Smith had his alleged vision in 1832. Smith had a bar in his house.

His wife wrote about it her journal, Smith and his cronies would hang around drinking while smoking cigars.

The Republican Party was founded by a coalition of Whigs, Anti-Slavery, anti-polygamy people.

39 posted on 09/04/2012 8:57:10 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: DannyTN

Yep


40 posted on 09/04/2012 8:57:56 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: freedomlover
BREAKING NEWS! BREAKING NEWS! BREAKING NEWS! BREAKING NEWS! BREAKING NEWS! BREAKING NEWS!

"ATTENTION: This week's revelation from the Planet Kolob is that soft-drinks are now OK to drink. However, do not spill them on the Sacred Underroos which as you know, have secret Masonic Symbols. This remains a sin. ALL mormons must now drink soft drinks publicly to make our religion look more "normal" and improve Mitt's odds of putting one of us into the White House. That is all. Obey."

41 posted on 09/04/2012 8:58:18 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Sorry, gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: MNJohnnie

So posting an article is not Christ like, what He doesn’t like us to read newspapers?


42 posted on 09/04/2012 8:58:58 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: Mr. Bird
"Although I can't think of any kneeslappers coming out of Judaism off the top of my head. "

Well there was the bruised face pharasees. So called because when they saw a woman they would so violently turn away that they would bash into walls.

But you won't find a command to do that in their scripture.

43 posted on 09/04/2012 8:59:22 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

“I ridicule Mormonism in hopes that some of it’s adherents will wake up”

You should reevaluate your tactics. You are only making yourself look bad.


44 posted on 09/04/2012 9:00:27 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: MNJohnnie

Source?
Do you know what those verses mean?
If you read before and after, we are to judge everything against the Word of God.
Mormonism has been judged and it is found lacking.


45 posted on 09/04/2012 9:01:59 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: DannyTN

The Friday fast (only one main meal a day and two light meals that do not equal another main meal) and the abstinence are ways of honoring the death of Christ on the Cross.

We choose our way for a purpose.


46 posted on 09/04/2012 9:03:17 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: StevenFlorida

Tell me, when did truth become bigotry?


47 posted on 09/04/2012 9:04:32 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Could you provide a citation from the Catholic Catechism indicating when eating meat on Friday was a mortal sin? Just asking. Thanks


48 posted on 09/04/2012 9:08:31 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: MNJohnnie

“You are not acting in a Christ like spirit and you know it.”


Not sure how you know that much about me.

Again, seriously, if Person A has an issue with how Person B is portraying the teachings of Christ (which I will admit I do vis a vis Mormanism), is it appropriate for Person A to “call out” Person B while still acting in a Christ like spirit?

Some would say that such “calling out” is exactly what Christ did with that aid of a whip to the money changers.

These are not easy issues. That is what makes them appropriate for Religion threads.


49 posted on 09/04/2012 9:08:40 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: roylene; DannyTN

Romney or Obama will be the next President. When you spend all your time like this trash talking Romney, you are actively working to re-elect 0.

Romney agrees with 85% of our position. Obama is 100% opposed to everything we claim to be for.

Obama is pro infanticide, Romney is not.

So why are some of you so desperate to help reelect a Pro-infanticide President?

That might not be the intent of your actions, it is the result of them

And spare me the bluster about being in a “safe” state. How your state is likely to go in no way absolves your active campaigning for 0.


50 posted on 09/04/2012 9:08:55 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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