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To: G Larry

“Author is an idiot:

“nuns are considered laypeople and women are barred from ordination in the Catholic Church.”

Nuns are Religious who have taken vows, and certainly are NOT “laypeople”.

“Many, many religious people, including many dissenting Catholics, believe their faith supports marriage equality, supports access to reproductive healthcare, supports equal roles for women and LGBT people within the faith.”

No they don’t believe their faith supports these things, they just pretend it doesn’t matter.

“the convention’s full-throated celebration of equality for women “
It was about killing babies, which has nothing to do with “equality”.”

My thoughts exactly. Ms. Posner certainly is an idiot.

BTW, I have been at more than a few functions in which a nun has given benediction. The difference is that it was not an apostate nun.

37 posted on 09/08/2012 8:13:09 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: paterfamilias
The teminology is somewhat less than crystal clear.

Actually, nuns are not strictly clergy, in that they are not ordained and cannot perform any of the functions which are restricted to men in Holy Orders, e.g. hearing Confession, saying Mass, administering Confirmation or Anointing of the Sick. They are not deacons, priests, or bishops.

In that sense, they are laity.

Although ascetics, nuns, and unordained members of religious associations of men are not "clerics," as members of canonical congregations they are sometimes included under the title clergy in its wider sense as vowed religious.

This indicates that as people who have not received the sacrament of Holy Orders, they are still in a special way dependent under ecclesiastical authority.

46 posted on 09/08/2012 9:32:22 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Holy God, Holy Mighty, Holy Immortal, have mercy on us and on the whole world.)
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