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Franciscan U of Steubenville Under Investigation for Teaching Homosexuality as Deviant
Life Site News ^ | 9/11/12 | Johanna Dasteel

Posted on 09/12/2012 6:35:38 AM PDT by marshmallow

STEUBENVILLE, OH, September 11, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The national agency which grants accreditation to social work courses is questioning Franciscan University of Steubenville over a course which lists homosexuality as a deviant behavior. Attention was drawn to the course by a group of Franciscan University alumni, identifying themselves as “Franciscan Gay Alumni & Allies”, who are demanding publicly that the university “revise its course descriptions and to stop contributing the culture of hate and ignorance.”

The course is called ‘Deviant Behavior’ and the part of the course description in question states, “The behaviors that are primarily examined are murder, rape, robbery, prostitution, homosexuality, mental illness, and drug use.”

In the press release issued by “Franciscan Gay Alumni & Allies” and published by the Daily Kos, further accusations and demands are made, based solely on the ‘Deviant Behavior’ course description. Among them are the group’s accusation that students are “being taught ideological falsehoods in the classroom,” and that the classification of homosexuality as a deviant behavior “feed(s) cultural biases and promote hatred for lesbian and gay individuals.”

The group goes on to make a broad demand that the university “revise its course descriptions,” “stop contributing the culture of hate and ignorance,” and “conduct an audit of its entire curriculum and remove any information being taught on this subject that is outdated and not substantiated by sound scientific fact.”

Regarding the last demand the group states, “It is about time the University aligns itself with the truth of this matter.”

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: franciscan; franciscanuniversity; homosexualagenda; ohio; persecution; rape; steubenville

1 posted on 09/12/2012 6:35:49 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

by definition, an activity engaged in by less than 1% of the population for which the body was not designed for is “deviant”


2 posted on 09/12/2012 6:38:54 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: marshmallow

‘Twould seem to me that a couple of percent of the population doing something that the rest wouldn’t even want to think of might be devient...but then again, math is not the friend of the politically correct.

And yup, libtards, it’s that low of a percent.


3 posted on 09/12/2012 6:38:59 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: marshmallow
Franciscan U of Steubenville Under Investigation for Teaching Homosexuality as Deviant

Are they also being investigated for teaching that the sky is blue and the grass is green?

4 posted on 09/12/2012 6:40:45 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (When the Obama poster fades, the portrait of Che Guevara beneath it shows through.)
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To: marshmallow

**“It is about time the University aligns itself with the truth of this matter.”**

According to God’s word, they are aligned with the truth of the matter.


5 posted on 09/12/2012 6:45:58 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow

What these fruits need to do is find themselves a new place to study.

Sick Deviant bastids refusing to see the Truth.


6 posted on 09/12/2012 6:49:29 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: marshmallow

“Franciscan U of Steubenville Under Investigation for Teaching Homosexuality as Deviant”

IT IS! Case closed.


7 posted on 09/12/2012 6:53:32 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Yes, indeed.

I’m guessing that Franciscan’s ALSO teaching that it’s sinful; but that doesn’t seem to be a problem for the gay alums.


8 posted on 09/12/2012 7:00:50 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: marshmallow

The issue that really counts is that God declares homosexuality to be against His Law. But to be fair to His words, He declares in no uncertain terms (see for example Revelation 22:15) that one of the conditions of His free gift of eternal life is that the person does not violate God’s Law in his life, including his sexual behavior.

So, there may be many Freepers who believe in the Ten Commandments, and who think they are obeying God in their live, but are living with their “significant others”. If you are acting like you are married, why not live in complete harmony with God’s Law , get married, and settle the issue?


9 posted on 09/12/2012 7:02:05 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: marshmallow
Everything is topsy turvy in Steubenville.

In Steubenville in August, a 16 year old cheerleader, 4.0 GPA girl was drugged unconsious, gang raped by numerous members of the student body at a party, the rape was videotaped, photos and video posted on youtube/twitter, and tweets followed such as "how can she sleep with a wang in the butthole"? and "no foreplay needed lol" went viral and pics of the girl passed out with let's say "fluid" on her was sent to her dad saying "look at your whore daughter now" and telling him to pick her up.

This story never made the local news except a small burb in the paper until a blogger broke it and saved all the tweets etc. which are available online on her site.

Guess what? the alleged guys who particpiated are from either old/new money, local officials son's and most are honor roll students themselves etc..the two arrested out of the 5-7 boys are poor with no influential families...

A woman poster on FR who is from Steubenville saw the photos herself and said it gave her shudders.

10 posted on 09/12/2012 7:04:46 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Da Coyote

“‘Twould seem to me that a couple of percent of the population doing something that the rest wouldn’t even want to think of might be devient...but then again, math is not the friend of the politically correct.

And yup, libtards, it’s that low of a percent.”

However the pecentage of that group is much higher in the socialolgy and psycology set. (Not to mention our media)


11 posted on 09/12/2012 7:06:04 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again")
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To: marshmallow

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states that homosexuality is intrinsically disordered, so I don’t see how Franciscan U can teach any different. The Catechism also teaches that masturbation is intrisically disordered too, and any sex at all outside a valid marriage is gravely sinful.

Catholicism is not for the faint of heart.


12 posted on 09/12/2012 7:08:04 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: marshmallow

The goal of the gays IMO is to overwhelm the ages old conception of morality, and normalize their abhorrent behavior. This goal is their assigned goal promoted by, and supported by those that would destroy morality, ie; Christian belief to control the Human existance, to manipulate humankind for the benefit of themselves, and those deemed as their loyal cronies.

I see the radical Left as liberals under the influence and guidance of radicals, aka; Criminal elements.

I note the similarities in goals, and the apparent alliance of the radical Left, and Islam. Christianity is the major obstacle in this World to them both.


13 posted on 09/12/2012 7:09:56 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: marshmallow

I live in Steubenville and the city has no better ally than Franciscan. It provides many jobs and pumps a lot of money into our local economy. I do not think that this investigation is spontaneous. Their Christ the King Chapel is in our city logo and the day last spring that the university made national headlines for stating that they will not follow obamacare laws, the Freedom From Religion Foundation filed a suit against our city because of the cross. Now this. I do not believe that this is a coincidence. This is a planned attack from the left, and they are fighting this war now on two fronts. Their plan is to make multiple issues uncomfortable until Franciscan totally capitulates.


14 posted on 09/12/2012 7:10:22 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: marshmallow

I guess ACADEMIC FREEDOM only applies if you are teaching subjects in a politically correct manner!


15 posted on 09/12/2012 7:11:02 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: marshmallow

Julian the Apostate tried a similar course.

Make the teachers unable to teach and be Christian.

Thing is, it will work. If they can regulate the religious schools, they can regulate all religious education.


16 posted on 09/12/2012 7:13:38 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: marshmallow

“The behaviors that are primarily examined are murder, rape, robbery, prostitution, homosexuality, mental illness, and drug use.”

The bisexuals, transgendered, poligamists, pedophiles, and those who engage in bestiality are upset they were left off the list. People need to learn to be inclusive.


17 posted on 09/12/2012 7:14:16 AM PDT by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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To: marshmallow

I was reading this thread and agreeing with most of the posts and then I thought of all the repugnant things that liberal professors are teaching and really got mad. Maybe we should encourage conservative students to fight back against the liberal bigotry too and give them a taste of their own medicine.


18 posted on 09/12/2012 7:14:23 AM PDT by tiki
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To: marshmallow

Intrinsically disordered is the correct phrase.


19 posted on 09/12/2012 7:17:16 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: GeronL

The male copulatory organ was not designed for insertion into the bodily orifaces of other males. If it was, such an action would lead to reproduction. Since it does not serve the natural function of said organ, homosexuality IS a DEVIANT activity.

And WHAT is so difficult to understand as THAT????


20 posted on 09/12/2012 7:21:54 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: ZULU

I have no idea.

Seems obvious.


21 posted on 09/12/2012 7:23:34 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL; Da Coyote

These are Franciscans, shouldn’t their standard for deviancy be God’s standard? Or do we now define deviancy and morality by the number of people who do it. If enough people steal does it become normal? If they cheat on their taxes do we celebrate it?

Even if Homosexuality infects 100% of the population it will still be deviant by our Creator’s standards.


22 posted on 09/12/2012 7:28:58 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: trailhkr1

I am the FReeper that you are referring to. The case has slowed down because special prosecutors have been called in and they essentially must restart the process. This means that if the boys’ statements change at any time they can also be charged with perjury.


23 posted on 09/12/2012 7:41:17 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: marshmallow

“[O]nly a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.” - Ben Franklin


24 posted on 09/12/2012 7:42:05 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: trailhkr1; marshmallow

Not surprised.

That is the major problem with private schools. They have a vested interest in protecting the cash flow.
Not that public schools are much better in that respect. They will select a different group to protect more often though.


25 posted on 09/12/2012 7:53:46 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: marshmallow

Heh, it was just a matter of time...
it worked with Georgetown, Catholic U., etc...
go after the last holdouts...
where are the Bishops of America and where is the Vatican ?????


26 posted on 09/12/2012 7:54:44 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Salvation

Yes. And according to the truth of statistics, psychology,and Natural Law as well.


27 posted on 09/12/2012 8:59:11 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (When I reflect that God is just, I tremble for my country.)
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To: Salvation

May God give Steubenville officials courage and comfort as they suffer persecution for Jesus Christ with all the saints militant.
Hear from Romans 1 what is God’s word on the matter:

20 ever since the creation of the world, the invisible existence of God and his everlasting power have been clearly seen by the mind’s understanding of created things. And so these people have no excuse:

21 they knew God and yet they did not honour him as God or give thanks to him, but their arguments became futile and their uncomprehending minds were darkened.

22 While they claimed to be wise, in fact they were growing so stupid

23 that they exchanged the glory of the immortal God for an imitation, for the image of a mortal human being, or of birds, or animals, or crawling things.

24 That is why God abandoned them in their inmost cravings to filthy practices of dishonouring their own bodies-

25 because they exchanged God’s truth for a lie and have worshipped and served the creature instead of the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 That is why God abandoned them to degrading passions:

27 why their women have exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural practices; and the men, in a similar fashion, too, giving up normal relations with women, are consumed with passion for each other, men doing shameful things with men and receiving in themselves due reward for their perversion.

28 In other words, since they would not consent to acknowledge God, God abandoned them to their unacceptable thoughts and indecent behaviour.

29 And so now they are steeped in all sorts of injustice, rottenness, greed and malice; full of envy, murder, wrangling, treachery and spite,

30 libellers, slanderers, enemies of God, rude, arrogant and boastful, enterprising in evil, rebellious to parents,

31 without brains, honour, love or pity.

32 They are well aware of God’s ordinance: that those who behave like this deserve to die — yet they not only do it, but even applaud others who do the same.


28 posted on 09/12/2012 9:08:54 AM PDT by Repent and Believe ("God abandoned them to degrading passions...")
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To: marshmallow

All he did was the same thing racist putz prez bo. Chant racism any time a white guy approaches you.


29 posted on 09/12/2012 9:24:35 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: marshmallow
Genesis 19:5 (NIV) 5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

Leviticus 18:22 (NIV) 22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

Leviticus 20:13 (NIV) 13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Romans 1: 21-32 (NIV) 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV) 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men.

1 Thessalonians 4:3-8 (NIV) 3 It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; 4 that each of you should learn to control your own body [a] in a way that is holy and honorable, 5 not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God; 6 and that in this matter no one should wrong or take advantage of a brother or sister. [b] The Lord will punish all those who commit such sins, as we told you and warned you before. 7 For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. 8 Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction does not reject a human being but God, the very God who gives you his Holy Spirit.

I Timothy 1:9-10 (NIV) 9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine.

“The Bible, the Church, and Homosexuality: Exposing the ‘Gay’ Theology” by Timothy J. Dailey, Ph.D., © 2004 by the Family Research Council, (46 page, downloadable booklet, PDF)
http://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF05K11.pdf

... conservatives need to understand both the strategy and argument of those who seek to revise or redefine historic Christian teaching regarding homosexuality. Called “revisionists,” these scholar-activists (1) advance the notion that homosexuality is an issue over which people of good will can differ. (2) Or they claim that there is no “clear answer” to the issue. (3) Then they recommend, under the rubric of “fairness,” that churches appoint task forces to study the issue.

Once the “studies” begin, the (1) revisionists claim that biblical passages that proscribe homosexual acts do not actually refer to homosexuality; (2) they at most only condemn an “abusive” form of homosexuality. Or they may concede that Scripture condemns homosexuality, but then argue that the (3) biblical writers are only reflecting “culturally conditioned” moral beliefs of a pre-scientific culture. As these arguments fail to persuade, (4) a final ploy is an appeal to an overarching theological ethic—such as the presence of “love,” “commitment,” “mutuality,”—that allegedly trumps explicit moral imperatives and justifies homosexual relationships.

INTERPRETING THE OLD TESTAMENT
Deuteronomy 23: Cultic Prostitution
Judges 19: The Outrage of Gibeah
1 Samuel 18 and 2 Samuel 1: David and Jonathan
Ezekiel 16:1–3 … 48–52 Sin of Sodom
Jude 1:1-15 Sodom and Gomorrah

30 posted on 09/12/2012 9:48:05 AM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: trailhkr1

I think it’s important to note that according to Ohio news sources, this rape DID NOT occur on the FSU campus and indeed had nothing to do with FSU.

Both of the perps were students at Steubenville (PUBLIC) High School.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/08/high_school_football_players_i.html

Regards,


31 posted on 09/12/2012 10:10:41 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: rbg81

Dug.


32 posted on 09/12/2012 2:29:49 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: rbg81

Duh.


33 posted on 09/12/2012 2:30:30 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: redgolum; trailhkr1
Just to be clear, the party and the "student body" trailhkr1 refers to have to do with Steubenville High School, not Franciscan University, so redgolum's comment about "private schools" is a non sequitur.

Steubenville is indeed a tough town, but that's not the University's fault.

34 posted on 09/12/2012 3:01:02 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: redgolum
In the other thread, the source of the fuss is Stephen Holloway, director of the office of accreditation at the Council on Social Work Education. The course is "Social Work 314", indicating it would be taken by those majoring in Social Work.
35 posted on 09/12/2012 3:16:05 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Campion

Thanks for the clarification, though I have seen similar things happen in upper education.

I went to a Big 8/12 school, and if you were from a “connected” family or good at sports, you could not be touched.

Which is one of the major reasons I no longer enjoy sports anymore.


36 posted on 09/12/2012 5:35:11 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

My son is a senior & a student athlete at Steubenville. I am also pretty familiar with the University to which I think you’re referring. (Maybe has to do with corn, and the color red?). There’s a world of difference between the two.


37 posted on 09/12/2012 5:51:58 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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