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Libya: there is good reason to ban the hateful anti-Muhammad YouTube clips
The Guardian ^ | September 12, 2012 | Andrew Brown

Posted on 09/12/2012 12:42:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The material I have viewed, said to be linked to the US embassy attack, is purely and simply an incitement to religious hatred.

I have just watched a YouTube video of clips from a film which, it is claimed, provoked the attack on the American embassy in Libya. It is impossible to completely authenticate them at this stage, or exclude the possibility the clips could have been doctored in some way by the uploaders. However, we do know that the film has been linked to riots in Egypt and the attack in Benghazi in which four embassy staff, including the ambassador, were killed. It's a really nasty piece of lying propaganda: something which deserves to be called hate speech, since hatred is its wellspring and the propagation of hatred is its goal.

It is – obviously – blasphemous to Muslims. Less obviously, it offends against the central values of liberal democracy. The justification of free speech put forward by John Stuart Mill is that the remedy for bad speech is better speech. But this presupposes an interest in truth, and perhaps some agreed means of deciding on it. It's a system that breaks down when confronted with determined and malevolent liars.

The film portrays Muhammad as a pathetic fraud, a child molester. He is an unwanted bastard at birth, and only gains his self-confidence after an older woman summons the cringing young man to her tent and pushes his head under her skirts where he nuzzles her crotch. When he emerges, he has seen visions...

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Current Events; History; Islam; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: egypt; freespeech; islam; libya; mohammed; muhammad; muslims; sharia; syria
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Which part of that is untrue, Andy?
1 posted on 09/12/2012 12:42:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Guardian is left of Lenin, loves Hamas, hates “the zionists,” etc.


2 posted on 09/12/2012 12:43:28 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I am well aware of their slant. They have avowed communists, such as Gary Younge, on their staff.


3 posted on 09/12/2012 12:44:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dhimmi douchebag, following the leader.


4 posted on 09/12/2012 12:44:54 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They say kill all the Christians and Jews...and we’re supposed to respect their contrived “religion” and say nothing. They’re nuts..


5 posted on 09/12/2012 12:45:37 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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I have just watched a YouTube video

Does he want medal?

6 posted on 09/12/2012 12:46:58 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FUG.


7 posted on 09/12/2012 12:46:58 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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there is good reason to ban the hateful anti-Muhammad YouTube clips

This is true. Here are some reasons:

Very poor acting.

Sloppy editing.

Ridiculous 'voice-overs'.

Very poor acting.

Very bad acting.

Lack of continuity.

8 posted on 09/12/2012 12:47:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Obama Obama There Are A Billion Osamas”

What does that line from the protests have to do with this video?

The Hate Department is making Terry Jones a scapegoat because he apparently said “macaca”.

Meanwhile the ACLU is okay with taxpayer dollars funding a piece of “art” called P!ss Chr!st.

F-the-media.


10 posted on 09/12/2012 12:48:00 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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There was a release of an Alqueda video on Monday night calling for Libyians to attack America in response to killing #2 AQ leader per Sen. Nelson just on Fox. Per coincidence...


11 posted on 09/12/2012 12:48:16 PM PDT by shotgun
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Thank you Travis
The Guardian is a lefty rag
Anywhere you see the word hate speech —you know it’s coming from a leftie.
Now, something can be in bad taste —but there are a lot of things in bad taste.
But do you go rioting and killing in the name of your god?
Well Muslims seem to think so.
Another word is outraged —lefties are always outraged. WHY? — because their life blood depends on it.


12 posted on 09/12/2012 12:48:33 PM PDT by brooklyn dave
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just ban them in muzzy occupied areas. That filth thrives on ignorance anyways.


13 posted on 09/12/2012 12:49:34 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m thinking of producing my own movie...

SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS goes to MECCA.


14 posted on 09/12/2012 12:49:56 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Revolting cat!
Spike Jones and Walt Disney are just gonna make the Germans mad.


15 posted on 09/12/2012 12:50:11 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hunt the press f*ckers down.


16 posted on 09/12/2012 12:50:58 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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In other words, there is good reason to ban free speech, because tyrants hate it.


17 posted on 09/12/2012 12:51:09 PM PDT by Maceman
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Absofreakinglutely.

“If you want to know who your master is, find out who you are not allowed to insult.”


18 posted on 09/12/2012 12:53:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

will youtube capitulate?


19 posted on 09/12/2012 12:54:05 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You are an effing loser Andy Panzy.

Your people weakass Pooosies. Bottom line.

When some D&*(head painted the Virgin Mary and plopped elephant poo all over it no one went crazy in the Christian world.

We just called it as we say it. Guy is an idiot.

I’d like my military to really, really, really hurt their feeling by F^*)king up their world with kerosene and napalm indiscriminately and with the “Mostest” Extreme Prejudice possible.

and then release 10 million feral hogs so they can feast on their hurt dead feelings and run the whole country down to the point it’s not worth fixing whatever ecological problem ensues.


20 posted on 09/12/2012 12:54:05 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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