Skip to comments.Benedict XVI: “Real Believers Don’t Kill”
Posted on 09/16/2012 2:27:03 PM PDT by marshmallow
The Holy Father met with Lebanese political and religious leaders in the Baabda Presidential Palace, where he was welcomed by the countrys President Michel Suleiman and his wife
The Popes second day of his three-day Apostolic Visit to Lebanon is being marked by a series of political and institutional meetings and an encounter with a group of young Middle Eastern people in the afternoon. After lunching with Lebanese patriarchs and bishops in the Armenian Catholic Patriarchate of Cilicia, Benedict XVI will move on to Bkerke, to meet with Lebanese and Middle Eastern young people.
Thousands of people waving Lebanese and Vatican flags gathered this morning in Beirut to greet Benedict XVI, who left the Apostolic Nunciature in Harissa (north of the capital) at 9:30 am to visit the Presidential Palace in Baabda.
The Pope was welcomed by Lebanons Marronite Catholic president, Michel Suleiman, in person, who invited locals yesterday to gather in the streets to greet the Pope. Today was declared a national holiday in Lebanon on the occasion of Benedict XVIs Apostolic Visit to the country. A part from the President, the Pope also met with other State officials and leaders of the Muslim communities.
The Pope planted a Lebanese cedar tree (the countrys national emblem), together with President Suleiman in the Baabda Presidential Palace. The brief ceremony was held before the Pope addressed his speech on peace to Lebanese political, intellectual and religious figures in the May 25th Hall (the date of the Israeli retreat from Lebanon after the war in 2000) of the Baabda Presidential Palace. When Benedict XVI entered the Hall he was greeted with applause and music by Mozart in the background.
In an inflamed Middle East, Benedict XVI has called for collaborative action and authentic dialogue bearing....
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Believers have often practiced human sacrifice. The Aztecs thought the sun coming up deserved a fresh human heart.
Proving once again Islam is a Satanic cult. You are not a good muslim unless you are killing.
Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution of Muslims is worse than slaughter of non-believers...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."
Sura (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
Sura (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"
Sura (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
Sura (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
Sura (47:4) - "So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make them prisoners,"
From the Hadith:
Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power."
Ibn Ishaq: 327 - Allah said, A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.
Ibn Ishaq: 992 - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."
Real Believers don’t murder,they might have to kill.
The Pope sounds alot like Bush’s “Religion of Peace” talk...
What is wrong with these people?
Islam is for World Conquest and enslavement of all Infidels...
There can be no agreements with Lying Murderers.
For there to be a one world system, all must be herded to the same place, by whatever methods works on the masses.
He’s doing well; one necessary component in bringing about the end of jihad is to separate it from its wellspring in the minds of those who don’t engage in it.
BS. Believers in mohammed kill like rabid animals.
Authentic faith does not lead to death... verbal and physical violence must be rejected......”
He said this with a straight face, did he?
The one time I’ll disagree with His Holiness.
We need a Pope Benedict like the one who launched the Crusades.
Pope Benedict is WRONG.
...what he should have said,
instead of real believers don’t kill,
is real religions don’t condone murder.
(of course, Islam even has an “out” for that.
since in Islam, killing one innocent,
is like killing the entire world...
except innocent is defined as muslim only...)
but, Benedict is still wrong.
the problem isn’t with the believers.
the problem, is with ISLAM.
If I could ask the Holy Father one question, it would be this:
“should we passively allow ourselves to be made subject to sharia, or oppose it?”
How does that work?
one necessary component in bringing about the end of jihad is to separate it from its wellspring in the minds of those who dont engage in it.
respectfully, in the minds of who?
the mythical moderate muslims?
a moderate muslim, is already NOT following Islam.
you CANNOT remove jihad from Islam.
it is commanded, IN the Holy Quran!
and the Holy Quran, are the literal unalterable words,
Islam CANNOT go through a reformation. impossible.
the closer they return to the original texts,
the more they will kill and terrorize.
(as FatherofFive so excellently showed,
with direct quotes.)
this isn’t a problem of a tiny minority of muslims
they, are the ones, who DO understand what it says.
we are simply fortunate, that MORE muslims don’t read and obey their own book.
(and i KNOW what they believe. i spent many months INSIDE a “moderate” mainstream Sunni masjid.
it was... educational.)
This new so-called "pope" has learned NOTHING. The last so-called "pope" kissed the Koran and proclaimed it a "holy book". Since then Muslims have been BUTCHERING Christians all over the globe in the name of Islam... and he is talking "authentic dialogue".
Pope Benedict thoroughly understands the Koran. He is a great scholar.
I couldn’t disagree more strenuously; Pope Benedict understands these issues more profoundly than you or I. Perhaps it is a syllogism: true believers don’t kill; you are a killer; therefore...
And only three weeks after the anniversary of the St Bartholemew Day's Massacre, no less.
1* There is an appointed time for everything,
and a time for every affair under the heavens.
2A time to give birth, and a time to die;
a time to plant, and a time to uproot the plant.
3A time to kill, and a time to heal;
a time to tear down, and a time to build.
4A time to weep, and a time to laugh;
a time to mourn, and a time to dance.
5A time to scatter stones, and a time to gather them;
a time to embrace, and a time to be far from embraces.
6A time to seek, and a time to lose;
a time to keep, and a time to cast away.
7A time to rend, and a time to sew;
a time to be silent, and a time to speak.
8A time to love, and a time to hate;
a time of war, and a time of peace.
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