Posted on 09/17/2012 5:47:53 AM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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Preterism.
People are looking for ANYTHING to get away from the evil that is 0bama and his regime!
I keep having this nagging suspicion that all my “preps” are simply God “keeping me busy” until He decides to “roll up the scroll”.
I would think in 456 when the Huns crossed into Northern Italy and were about to overrun all of Europe the Rapture index was much higher
Please always be prepared for it to take longer than you expected.
Could somebody please explain this ‘rapture index’ to me? I have a vague notion of what it is, but some clarification would be appreciated.
There is no “rapture” in the BIble.
The second coming of Christ occurs at the END of times.
Don’t kid yourself into believing that YOU will be spared any coming tribulations, simply because you clicked your heels 3 times while saying “there’s no place like home”.....
This is an Onion bit, don’t fall for it.
The TIME is drawing NEAR.
http://www.patburt.com/
Great, more rapture fetishists.
Besides being saved, how exactly do you “get ready”? Call in sick from work? Put out lawn chairs?
Well, not exactly correct Ezekiel 13:17-23 was told to put into writing about those that teach 'souls' to fly.
“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ Matthew 22:37-39
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen. (Matthew 28:18-20)
“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ Matthew 22:37-39
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen. (Matthew 28:18-20)
“Don’t kid yourself into believing that YOU will be spared any coming tribulations, simply because you clicked your heels 3 times while saying “there’s no place like home”.....”
As it turns out, you are confusing the Scriptures with The Wizard of Oz story.
“Could somebody please explain this ‘rapture index’ to me?”
Sure. The “rapture index” is a web page maintained by a Christian. Let’s break it up into a couple of parts.
1) The Rapture
Whether you believe there is a rapture or not is a matter of your interpretation of the Bible. Some people believe there will be a rapture and others don’t. The pros and cons of this are too complicated to go into here; if you want to see the arguments on both sides (or just understand what the phrase “the rapture” means), just google “rapture bible”.
The author of the web-page believes in the rapture.
There is also among rapture believers about whether it occurs at the beginning, in the middle, or at the end of the 7 year great tribulation described in Revelation.
The author of the web-page believes it occurs at the beginning of the 7 year great tribulation.
2) Timing
The Bible states nobody knows the exact time “end times” (which will include the rapture), but it does say there are signs that will let us know it is imminent—very close. This is what the author of the rapture index web page is attempting to track—the signs given in the Bible that the end times are close.
The author seems to be absolutely opposed to date setting (setting a hard, definite date), so he has avoided that non-Biblical trap. The overall message of the web page seems to be: Jesus could come at any minute, so Christians need to be prepared for his coming.
How valid an exercise this is depends on your overall theology. From a pre-tribulation rapture theology standpoint the author’s end-times theology seems fairly solid.
Of course, if you don’t believe in a pre-tribulation rapture (of the rapture period), then you wouldn’t consider his theology valid, but that’s an entirely different debate (a debate I hope would be carried on somewhere else, and not this thread).
You do that anyway, not because the rapture has been penciled in for next week.
LMAO!! I love Freepers!
Sounds like you're READY.
Yes, it is later than it’s ever been before!
As it turns out the Rapture myth is only a few years older than the Wizard of Oz.
I think it was a little higher than now when the Black Death killed a third of Europe's population.
Also:
37 Earthquakes: Two strong quakes kill 240 people in Iran.
That ranks a 5. Was it a 6 when the December 26, 2004 when a quarter million were killed by an earthquake its tsunami?
I’ve been hearing that for over 50 years. Something tells me my grandkids will hear about too.
Yes, but forget about that rapture stuff. We are all going to be right here to witness and fight for right. Anything else just wouldn’t be fair! : )
“As it turns out the Rapture myth is only a few years older than the Wizard of Oz.”
As it turns out, your knowledge of Church history outside your own area is deficient.
And that is when the "rapture" or "harpazo" or "catching up" (whichever one you want to call it) will occur.
He’s right. “Rapture” is not in the Bible.
For example the KJV differs from newer translations in the NIV. Why? Deceitful translations. False prophets.
Too bad that many Christians are prepared to “fly away” and leave the two witnesses to stand against the anti-christ completely alone.
(The pretribulation rapture) that’s an entirely different debate (a debate I hope would be carried on somewhere else, and not this thread).
> Since the “Rapture Index” webpage is in actuality a “Pretribulation Rapture Index,” I don’t how in the world you can be upset at the reaction it is bound to cause.
For people like myself, Historic Premillennialist (post-trib), who believe a pretribulation rapture, a “first” second coming, with another coming, a “second” second coming at the end of the tribulation, is bogus, but a man made theory, throwing a Pretribulation Rapture Index at us, as if it is fact, is red meat. I’d say this so called Rapture Index has been put in the crosshairs, a target for serious debate and exmination.
I hasten to add, as a Historic Premillennialist, not a Preterist, you might get the wrong impression from my post. I am in total agreement with the heightened concern of which the “Rapture Index” is based, what we see going on in the world. The middle east, not to mention the ongoing apostasy about us everywhere, the coming election, etc. My beef is only with the pretribulation rapture which the index is based.
We should be sounding the alarm of getting conservatives like what we have here on FR, prepared (mentally, spiritually, and theologically) for what we are going to be facing in the great tribulation.
“We should be sounding the alarm of getting conservatives like what we have here on FR, prepared (mentally, spiritually, and theologically) for what we are going to be facing in the great tribulation.”
Well said...onward Christian soldiers!
It’s like jumping on a thread where people are trying to discuss some point of Catholic theology (say whether Mass should be in Latin or English) and declaring “all that Catholic stuff is bogus.” Not really appropriate.
It seems the context of this thread is the rapture INDEX, and how it compares to the overall theology of the rapture. Like the Catholic debate, it should probably be for people that support the theology (premillenialist).
If you like to start a thread to debate the theology of the rapture itself...great idea.
I thought the Rapture Index webpage was a sort of measuring stick of anxiety in expectation of an imminent, or any moment, rapture, a central concept of the pretrib rapture doctrine.
“Rapture” is not in the Bible.”
“Bible” is not in the Bible.
Well, not exactly correct Ezekiel 13:17-23 was told to put into writing about those that teach 'souls' to fly.
I flew out to Portland Oregon a couple of weeks ago via Minneapolis and returned via Dallas. I must have missed Ezekial. Perhaps he was off shift.
However, it would conflict with the kids' soccer games, not to mention the big meeting with Boeing. Just wouldn't work for me. Perhaps God might delay it for a couple of weeks until I wrap up the loose ends...
So? Are you accusing the Heavenly Father of being 'off shift'? Take your complaints up with Him.
So? Are you accusing the Heavenly Father of being 'off shift'? Take your complaints up with Him.
Ahh, the advantage of an American public school education. I said that I must have missed Ezekial; perhaps he was off shift.
Now you turn that into accusing me of saying that the Heavenly Father (you aren't Mormon by any chance, are you?) is off shift. The Rapture thus far to any evidence simply doesn't exist and will not, no matter the hysteria of its supporters. Now we have the disingenuousness of its supporters to add to its veracity.
You mean the pre-trib rapture, right? The post-trib one, which is coincident with the return of Jesus, is pretty well-characterized biblically.
Partially correct and thanks for the post. The Church has definitively ruled against the pre-trib rapture. It has, certainly since and even before St. Augustine, been amillennial.
I take God very seriously. It is people who are full of themselves that I take lightly.
No I am not a Morman.
That's a relief.
Yes, I sure know what you mean about people who are full of themselves! Some of them haven't a clue about what God told Ezekiel to foretell.
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