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Should we have the right to disobey Islamic law?
Hot Air ^ | September 19, 2012 | Laura Curtis

Posted on 09/19/2012 11:18:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Should we have the right to disobey Islamic law? The future of western civilization hinges on our response to this question. Right now people are suggesting that “hate speech” should not be free speech because when people blaspheme Mohammed, Muslim extremists riot and kill.

“When some people use this freedom of expression to provoke or humiliate some others’ values and beliefs, then this cannot be protected in such a way.” – U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon

The extended liberal argument is that if you make Islamists mad, you know they’re going to kill, so you bear some responsibility for those deaths, too. Even Salman Rushie, after a quarter century of living with a fatwa on his head, called the “Innocence of Muslims” filmmaker “disgusting” and said, “He did it on purpose. I mean, he set out to create a response, and he got it in spades.”

When Ezra Levant was hauled before a tribunal in Canada to defend his right to publish the Mohammed cartoons, he was asked what his intent was. He replied,

“Why is that a relevant question? We published what we published. The words and pictures speak for themselves. So if I were to say, hypothetically, that the purpose was to instill hatred, incite hatred and cause offense, are you saying that’s an acceptable answer? My answer to your question is as follows. We published those cartoons for the intention and purpose of exercising our inalienable rights as free born Albertans to publish whatever the hell we want no matter what the hell you think. I’ve probably given 200 interviews to people other than the state where I’d give a very thoughtful and nuanced expression of my intent, but the only thing I have to say to the government about why I published it is that it’s my bloody right to do so. … My answer to these two fascists, the one trained in Saudi Arabia and the other one piling on, is that I reserve the right to publish those cartoons for exactly what they complain about. I reserve the right to publish those cartoons to do every offensive thing that they claim is in my heart.”

Liberals don’t care about protecting the tender feelings of the religious, as evidenced by decades of offenses against Christians and every other faith. They are simply afraid of a group who is willing to kill because they’re offended. And what liberals are really saying, if they were honest, is that we have a moral obligation to obey Islamic law in order to prevent more bloodshed.

They are saying that non-Muslims, living in non-Muslim countries, should voluntarily adhere to Muslim law.

These same people who scream like a goth in the sun at the sight of a nativity scene on public property, are suggesting that non-Muslim governments should use their non-Muslim citizens’ tax dollars to enforce Islamic blasphemy laws.

That’s insane.

Not only do we have the right to not obey Islamic law, we have the obligation to not obey it - because going along to get along will only result in further oppression. I’ve used the “secondary crime scene” analogy before: You’re in a parking lot, and a criminal sticks a gun in your ribs and demands you drive him somewhere. The parking lot is the primary crime scene, where your kidnapping takes place. The ‘somewhere’ is the secondary crime scene, where he can safely torture, rape, and murder you at his leisure. It’s obviously better to fight back at the primary crime scene – even if you are shot, at least it’s in public where help is more likely to be available. Fighting back at the primary crime scene may scare off an attacker – if you’re not an easy mark, he’ll probably move on to another victim. It also may get the attention of others who may help fight him off. Compliance always empowers your kidnapper, never you.

Here, at the primary crime scene is where we need to fight. If we do not forcefully challenge the concept of so-called “hate speech” not being protected speech, we will eventually lose our right to speak freely, and ultimately, our right to disobey Islamic blasphemy laws. And in that case, can sharia be far behind?


TOPICS: Current Events; Islam; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: blasphemy; blasphemylaw; canada; islam; muslims; sharia
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1 posted on 09/19/2012 11:18:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 09/19/2012 11:23:26 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Simple test

Tell a Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Pagan, and Muslim that their religion sucks. Then see which one tries to kill you.

The answer should be obvious. The NWO is alive and well.


3 posted on 09/19/2012 11:25:42 PM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: Windflier
“Civilize ‘em with a Krag!”
4 posted on 09/19/2012 11:26:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Also it is our duty to criticize Islam so as to expose Islam as the evil cult , and lies that it is.

We won’t surrender our freedom of speech to democrats/liberals and Muslims who want to shut us up. We must not give up our freedom to these statist maggots.


5 posted on 09/19/2012 11:27:32 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My prayer is that every person who follows Mo comes to know Jesus as Lord and Savior. That they turn from their evil ways, confess their sins and live accordingly.

That said, no, I have no obligation to obey their laws.


6 posted on 09/19/2012 11:30:56 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, dog-eating, cadillac-commie.


7 posted on 09/19/2012 11:37:55 PM PDT by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I plan to violate Islamic law at just about every chance I get.

Pork sandwiches for everyone!


8 posted on 09/19/2012 11:39:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“In the Religion forum, on a thread titled Should we have the right to disobey Islamic law?,”

For starters, this is a stupid question and would only be advanced if the author believed in Islam law, which we do not have thankfully in our good old U.S.A.
Giving Islamic law any credibility here is the stupidest idea so far advanced by the kooky left.


9 posted on 09/19/2012 11:40:08 PM PDT by Islander2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Islamic law means nothing to me. Islam feels free to attack everyone else’s faith but expects to be respected. The world doesn’t work that way.


10 posted on 09/19/2012 11:41:05 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Windflier

Sounds like Pershing was onto something we need to immediately re-instate as SOP for dealing with uppity Muslims.


11 posted on 09/19/2012 11:42:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

If ALLEN WEST should be named Secretary of Defense, this might damn well happen.


12 posted on 09/19/2012 11:50:17 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: Windflier

“The soldiers then soaked their bullets in the pigs’ blood, and proceeded to execute 49 of the terrorists by firing squad.”

Where O where is our General Pershing today?


13 posted on 09/19/2012 11:55:16 PM PDT by b9
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is not only our right, it is our duty.


14 posted on 09/20/2012 12:03:23 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Should we have the right to disobey Islamic law?

The question itself is perverted, ass-backwards and already presumes compelled obedience to sharia is justified.

"Laura Curtis" wrote this - on her knees.

But far worse, she's trying to get everyone down onto their knees to discuss the subject with her.

What Laura is doing here, folks, is profoundly evil. And she believe she's simply too smart for anyone to see it.

Oh yeah, "Laura." Shill for the Muslims. They'll treat you right.

You arrogant fool.

15 posted on 09/20/2012 12:31:01 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

You might want to read it first.


16 posted on 09/20/2012 12:32:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Talisker

RTFA!


17 posted on 09/20/2012 12:38:57 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A right??? We have a duty to disobey Islamic law!


18 posted on 09/20/2012 1:02:09 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“They are simply afraid of a group who is willing to kill because they’re offended. And what liberals are really saying, if they were honest, is that we have a moral obligation to obey Islamic law in order to prevent more bloodshed.”

As self appointed, know - it - all elitists, American liberals are actually patronizing Muslims. They have always patronized (I didn’t say respect) racial and ethic minorities, whom they consider too weak and ignorant to be responsible for their peccadilloes. The people the liberals really fear and loathe are the middle class “bitter clingers”, whom they regard as loose cannons, prone to get out of control when some unfortunate incident like the World Trade Center affair happens. It is these people who must be restrained in order to prevent more bloodshed.

As an analogy, there was an op-ed piece concerning the Trayvon Martin affair demanding that the “white hispanic” Zimmerman cop a guilty plea and spend ten years in jail in the interest of preventing a race war.


19 posted on 09/20/2012 1:16:08 AM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why would such a question even be asked? I have the right to call Mo a child molester and anything i wish even if i do offend some towel headed Arab. If i want to say i believe MOslems and their religious figures are the whores of the earth, so be it. It is the American way and it is called FREEDOM !
20 posted on 09/20/2012 1:40:18 AM PDT by Plumberman27
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Islamic *)Sharia(* law? Not in my back yard. Not in my lifetime.


21 posted on 09/20/2012 2:22:47 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, because Islamic law does not apply to non-Muslims.


22 posted on 09/20/2012 2:38:54 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: b9
Where O where is our General Pershing today?

Right here, of course...



23 posted on 09/20/2012 2:55:48 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: haroldeveryman

There is one word that describes liberals: cowards. Otherwise, there is another word that tells who not to obey:

“Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ [from the Greek word christos meaning Anointed]; and shall deceive many.... For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” (Matthew 24:4,5,24).

“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” ( Matthew 7:15)

“For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear.” (2 Timothy 4:3)


24 posted on 09/20/2012 3:25:14 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Talisker

What article did you read?


25 posted on 09/20/2012 3:35:01 AM PDT by dforest
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To: haroldeveryman

There is one word that describes liberals: cowards. Otherwise, there is another word that tells who not to obey:

“Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ [from the Greek word christos meaning Anointed]; and shall deceive many.... For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” (Matthew 24:4,5,24).

“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” ( Matthew 7:15)

“For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear.” (2 Timothy 4:3)


26 posted on 09/20/2012 4:16:01 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I learned as a child that in order to care about what someone says, I have to first care about what they think. since I don’t give a rats south side about what any stinking muslim thinks, I don’t care at all what he says. Since muslim garbage seems so offended by what I say about their drunken, murderous pedophile prophet, they must care what I think about their stupid death cult.


27 posted on 09/20/2012 4:28:01 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Should we have the right to disobey Islamic law?

Pretty silly question.
I DO HAVE THE RIGHT, I served this Nation in uniform to insure I kept that right and I will serve this nation with weapon in hand to insure that I and all Americans keep that right.


28 posted on 09/20/2012 4:31:13 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We won’t surrender to liberals/Democrats . We won’t shut up.

We should expose Islam for the lies it is to everyone.

The first thing we have to know it that Islam is all invented evil lies of a child molesting terrorist named Mohammad. It is no religion but something that Mohammad totally made up to gain power.

If you knew a hurricane was headed to someone you’d warn them of danger so then you should warn people of the threat of Islam.


29 posted on 09/20/2012 4:31:58 AM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Darn straight.

I think we need to have a new tradition in the US.

We’ll call them “Defiance Barbeques”

It will be all pork products grilled that day.

“Pork Steaks of Freedom!”


30 posted on 09/20/2012 7:34:52 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ain’t it funny that with moslems and homosexuals both running wild and making it all but impossible to disagree with them, they never seem to tussle with each other?


31 posted on 09/20/2012 8:13:29 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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Hey, Mudslimes....I've got your "offensive speech" right over here!
32 posted on 09/20/2012 9:22:44 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Right? We have a duty!


33 posted on 09/20/2012 9:30:39 AM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Ain’t it funny that with moslems and homosexuals both running wild and making it all but impossible to disagree with them, they never seem to tussle with each other?

FROM THE HIGH MULLAH IN THE HOLY CITY OF QOM TO ALL SONS OF THE PROPHET:

The blessings of Allah and the Peace of the Prophet be on all the soldiers of Islam.

Our alliance with the sodomites of the Great Satan has proven invaluable im turning the power of the infidel against his own kind. Victory is close at hand. All praise be to Allah!

I have heard your questions on the disposition of the sodomites once America is destroyed. In our new Caliphate they shall receive their recompense. Let the will of the Prophet be clear, you shall give unto them their reward:

Pump them and dump them.

In the name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate, all blessings be upon the Beard of Muhammad.

HIGH MULLAH OOK OOK FAROUK

34 posted on 09/20/2012 9:48:35 AM PDT by Tuanedge
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Comments?

Lock up the moon struck crazy people before they can hurt themselves or others.

Regards,
GtG

35 posted on 09/20/2012 4:09:37 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: jonrick46
There is one word that describes liberals: cowards. Otherwise, there is another word that tells who not to obey: “Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ [from the Greek word christos meaning Anointed]; and shall deceive many.... For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” (Matthew 24:4,5,24). “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” ( Matthew 7:15) “For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear.” (2 Timothy 4:3)

kind of brings to mind the protestant revolution doesn't it??

36 posted on 09/20/2012 9:15:47 PM PDT by terycarl
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