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Harry Reid: Mitt Romney Has 'Sullied' Mormonism': He's not the face' of the religion...
Newser ^ | September 25, 2012 | Evann Gastaldo

Posted on 09/25/2012 10:13:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Harry Reid is a Mormon, and he wants you to know that Mitt Romney is not the poster boy for his religion, the Salt Lake Tribune reports. Speaking on a conference call Friday about Romney's upcoming visit to Nevada, where many Mormons live, Reid said that he agrees with fellow Mormon Gregory A. Prince—who blogged last week that Romney has "sullied" their shared religion, according to Politico. Members of the LDS church "understand that [Romney] is not the face of Mormonism," Reid added.

The GOP pounced on Reid's comments, with Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz saying, “Harry Reid seems to be making this way too personal and consequently throwing the religion under the bus for his own personal gain. That’s not where anyone should be going with this. He’s taking this two steps too far.”


TOPICS: Current Events; Other Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: democrats; lds; mormons; nevada; romney; senate; utah
Now that, ladies and gentlemen, is what desperation looks like.
1 posted on 09/25/2012 10:13:27 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This could result in a great article on the many faces of Mormonism.


2 posted on 09/25/2012 10:16:28 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The church should kick Harry out. Since when did being a pedarest fit in with their beliefs. F U Harry


3 posted on 09/25/2012 10:16:34 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

Good it makes me feel less queasy voting for him if mitt is not the face of the church of jospeh smith


4 posted on 09/25/2012 10:19:02 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A lot of Baptist had that problem with President Carter. Makes me want to vote for Romney, which I am going to do, but not because I want to.


5 posted on 09/25/2012 10:19:25 AM PDT by Ramonne
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
and he wants you to know that Mitt Romney is not the poster boy for his religion

I live in Utah...Mitt Romney is very popular among the Mormon faithful...and he is probably the best public representative they have had for their religion since Steve Young was playing football.

6 posted on 09/25/2012 10:19:43 AM PDT by ghost of nixon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Harry Reid is the face of Moronism.


7 posted on 09/25/2012 10:21:03 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
not to compare our Lord and Savior Jesus to mere humans but Reed's comparison between his and Mitt's Morman faith is like Satan calling Jesus evil
8 posted on 09/25/2012 10:22:41 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: dfwgator

Ha ha!


9 posted on 09/25/2012 10:22:52 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: dfwgator

Dingy is a “Jack Mormon”.


10 posted on 09/25/2012 10:23:07 AM PDT by Internet Walnut
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi ARE criminals who should be frog marched to a life sentence in prison.


11 posted on 09/25/2012 10:23:30 AM PDT by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Harry is a great example of demon possession.


12 posted on 09/25/2012 10:24:04 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whoa. I had no clue Harry Reid is [nominally] Mormon. I would never have guessed based on his political stances. Kinda like Pelosi being a proud Catholic who says her abortion stance is somehow part of her faith.

WTH?


13 posted on 09/25/2012 10:25:13 AM PDT by verum ago (Be a bastard, and Karma'll be a bitch.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you Harry, for helping us secure Nevada’s electoral votes for Romney with those comments.


14 posted on 09/25/2012 10:28:22 AM PDT by zencycler
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reid has “sullied” his diapers. Nevadans, retire this babbling fool.


15 posted on 09/25/2012 10:30:49 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know some Mormons, and they don’t act like dingy harry.


16 posted on 09/25/2012 10:34:59 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The cadaver speaks again.


17 posted on 09/25/2012 10:35:58 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Based on his votes, Reid must be a member of the Mormon group Affirmation.


18 posted on 09/25/2012 10:43:22 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So far the Obama campaign and its allies have called Romney a tax fraud, a sullied Mormon,greedy,uncaring, accused him of killing a steel unionist’s wife,and a vulture capitalist. Their campaign is twofold- the other guy looking to replace me is the devil and anything bad happening on my watch is due to the devil that preceded me.Last time I heard those excuses from a underperforming employee, I fired him.


19 posted on 09/25/2012 10:43:48 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

how about Reid shows HIS tax returns,
and shows how much he gave to the Morman Church ?


20 posted on 09/25/2012 10:47:13 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: verum ago

Whoa. I had no clue Harry Reid is [nominally] Mormon. I would never have guessed based on his political stances. Kinda like Pelosi being a proud Catholic who says her abortion stance is somehow part of her faith.
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great point!
Obama, as a “Christian”, is a better muslim...
than Pelosi is a Catholic or Reid is a Mormon !


21 posted on 09/25/2012 10:52:14 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You know what? Harry Reid and his arrogant and dictator-like interpretation of what it means to be an elected servant/representative of "the People," under the People's written Constitution is shameful and does not reflect well either on his personal concept of citizenship or his religious faith.

On the other hand, another man of the LDS faith wrote many books on America's founding principles, one of which is entitled, "The 5000 Year Leap." If one reads the following summary of those principles, then one must conclude that Reid clearly would be in disagreement with that fellow LDS member also:

From the web site:

"These beliefs have made possible more progress in 200 years than was made previously in over 5,000 years. Thus the title "The 5,000 Year Leap".

"The following is a brief overview of the principles found in The 5,000 Year Leap, and one chapter is devoted to each of these 28 principles.

Principle 1 - The only reliable basis for sound government and just human relations is Natural Law.

Natural law is God's law. There are certain laws which govern the entire universe, and just as Thomas Jefferson said in the Declaration of Independence, there are laws which govern in the affairs of men which are "the laws of nature and of nature's God."

Principle 2 - A free people cannot survive under a republican constitution unless they remain virtuous and morally strong.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Benjamin Franklin

Principle 3 - The most promising method of securing a virtuous people is to elect virtuous leaders.

"Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. He therefore is the truest friend to the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue, and who ... will not suffer a man to be chosen into any office of power and trust who is not a wise and virtuous man." - Samuel Adams

Principle 4 - Without religion the government of a free people cannot be maintained.

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.... And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion." - George Washington

Principle 5 - All things were created by God, therefore upon him all mankind are equally dependent, and to him they are equally responsible .

The American Founding Fathers considered the existence of the Creator as the most fundamental premise underlying all self-evident truth. They felt a person who boasted he or she was an atheist had just simply failed to apply his or her divine capacity for reason and observation.

Principle 6 - All mankind were created equal.

The Founders knew that in these three ways, all mankind are theoretically treated as:

  1. Equal before God.
  2. Equal before the law.
  3. Equal in their rights.

Principle 7 - The proper role of government is to protect equal rights, not provide equal things.

The Founders recognized that the people cannot delegate to their government any power except that which they have the lawful right to exercise themselves.

Principle 8 - Mankind are endowed by God with certain unalienable rights.

"Those rights, then, which God and nature have established, and are therefore called natural rights, such as are life and liberty, need not the aid of human laws to be more effectually invested in every man than they are; neither do they receive any additional strength when declared by the municipal [or state] laws to be inviolable. On the contrary, no human legislation has power to abridge or destroy them, unless the owner [of the right] shall himself commit some act that amounts to a forfeiture." - William Blackstone

Principle 9 - To protect human rights, God has revealed a code of divine law.

"The doctrines thus delivered we call the revealed or divine law, and they are to be found only in the Holy Scriptures. These precepts, when revealed, are found by comparison to be really a part of the original law of nature, as they tend in all their consequences to man's felicity." - William Blackstone

Principle 10 - The God-given right to govern is vested in the sovereign authority of the whole people.

"The fabric of American empire ought to rest on the solid basis of the consent of the people. The streams of national power ought to flow immediately from that pure, original fountain of all legislative authority." - Alexander Hamilton

Principle 11 - The majority of the people may alter or abolish a government which has become tyrannical.

"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes ... but when a long train of abuses and usurpations ... evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." - Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence

Principle 12 - The United States of America shall be a republic.

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
And to the republic for which it stands...."

Principle 13 - A Constitution should protect the people from the frailties of their rulers.

"If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.... [But lacking these] you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself." - James Madison

Principle 14 - Life and liberty are secure only so long as the rights of property are secure .

John Locke reasoned that God gave the earth and everything in it to the whole human family as a gift. Therefore the land, the sea, the acorns in the forest, the deer feeding in the meadow belong to everyone "in common." However, the moment someone takes the trouble to change something from its original state of nature, that person has added his ingenuity or labor to make that change. Herein lies the secret to the origin of "property rights."

Principle 15 - The highest level of prosperity occurs when there is a free-market economy and a minimum of government regulations.

Prosperity depends upon a climate of wholesome stimulation with four basic freedoms in operation:

  1. The Freedom to try.
  2. The Freedom to buy.
  3. The Freedom to sell.
  4. The Freedom to fail.

Principle 16 - The government should be separated into three branches .

"I call you to witness that I was the first member of the Congress who ventured to come out in public, as I did in January 1776, in my Thoughts on Government ... in favor of a government with three branches and an independent judiciary. This pamphlet, you know, was very unpopular. No man appeared in public to support it but yourself." - John Adams

Principle 17 - A system of checks and balances should be adopted to prevent the abuse of power by the different branches of government.

"It will not be denied that power is of an encroaching nature and that it ought to be effectually restrained from passing the limits assigned to it." - James Madison

Principle 18 - The unalienable rights of the people are most likely to be preserved if the principles of government are set forth in a written Constitution.

The structure of the American system is set forth in the Constitution of the United States and the only weaknesses which have appeared are those which were allowed to creep in despite the Constitution.

Principle 19 - Only limited and carefully defined powers should be delegated to government, all others being retained by the people.

The Tenth Amendment is the most widely violated provision of the bill of rights. If it had been respected and enforced America would be an amazingly different country than it is today. This amendment provides:

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Principle 20 - Efficiency and dispatch require that the government operate according to the will of the majority, but constitutional provisions must be made to protect the rights of the minority.

"Every man, by consenting with others to make one body politic under one government, puts himself under an obligation to every one of that society to submit to the determination of the majority, and to be concluded [bound] by it." - John Locke

Principle 21 - Strong local self-government is the keystone to preserving human freedom.

"The way to have good and safe government is not to trust it all to one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to every one exactly the functions he is competent [to perform best]. - Thomas Jefferson

Principle 22 - A free people should be governed by law and not by the whims of men.

"The end of law is not to abolish or restrain, but to preserve and enlarge freedom. For in all the states of created beings, capable of laws, where there is no law there is no freedom. For liberty is to be free from restraint and violence of others, which cannot be where there is no law." - John Locke

Principle 23 - A free society cannot survive as a republic without a broad program of general education.

"They made an early provision by law that every town consisting of so many families should be always furnished with a grammar school. They made it a crime for such a town to be destitute of a grammar schoolmaster for a few months, and subjected it to a heavy penalty. So that the education of all ranks of people was made the care and expense of the public, in a manner that I believe has been unknown to any other people, ancient or modern. The consequences of these establishments we see and feel every day [written in 1765]. A native of America who cannot read and write is as rare ... as a comet or an earthquake." John Adams

Principle 24 - A free people will not survive unless they stay strong.

"To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." - George Washington

Principle 25 - "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations -- entangling alliances with none."- Thomas Jefferson, given in his first inaugural address.

Principle 26 - The core unit which determines the strength of any society is the family; therefore the government should foster and protect its integrity.

"There is certainly no country in the world where the tie of marriage is more respected than in America, or where conjugal happiness is more highly or worthily appreciated." Alexis de Tocqueville

Principle 27 - The burden of debt is as destructive to human freedom as subjugation by conquest.

"We are bound to defray expenses [of the war] within our own time, and are unauthorized to burden posterity with them.... We shall all consider ourselves morally bound to pay them ourselves and consequently within the life [expectancy] of the majority." - Thomas Jefferson

Principle 28 - The United States has a manifest destiny to eventually become a glorious example of God's law under a restored Constitution that will inspire the entire human race.

The Founders sensed from the very beginning that they were on a divine mission. Their great disappointment was that it didn't all come to pass in their day, but they knew that someday it would. John Adams wrote:

"I always consider the settlement of America with reverence and wonder, as the opening of a grand scene and design in Providence for the illumination of the ignorant, and the emancipation of the slavish part of mankind all over the earth."


22 posted on 09/25/2012 11:03:55 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: factoryrat

I don’t believe that Romney is the face of the church.

I believe that Jesus Christ is the face of the church. And we as members are his disciples and His representatives.

Is Reid the face of the Democrat party? A party who has in their political platform gay marriage, pro-choice abortion), Anti-Israel language, and a weighing down of future generations with debt and government dependence. Everything that the LDS church and a majority of the faithful stand against.

I am truly speechless (or maybe not) with this man.


23 posted on 09/25/2012 11:10:38 AM PDT by xenedra
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mormonism was sullied the moment a con artist came up with the caper of sticking his face into his hat. More gold, less digging. And the fringe benefits were out of this world.


24 posted on 09/25/2012 11:22:29 AM PDT by Tuanedge
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So is Harry Reid, the inveterate liar and mob-connected crook, the face of Mormonism?


25 posted on 09/25/2012 11:23:22 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

This actually may help Mitt. I read that some people aren’t voting for him simply because he is a Mormon.


26 posted on 09/25/2012 11:32:58 AM PDT by GYPSY286 (Politicians must USE their heads or Americans will LOSE their heads.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Willard is a busy little Bee mixing politics with his religion ...

and Reid is afraid he will be Tweded if he doesnt pick the Mormon Corporation over Willard...


27 posted on 09/25/2012 11:36:49 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: GYPSY286

I thought the same thing. This should relieve all of those who were worried about Mitt being a Mormon.


28 posted on 09/25/2012 11:39:04 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, that’s low, even for Harry Reid.

Just what demographic was he going for here?

I guess the millions of dollars and countless charitable deeds for Mormans done by Romney aren’t the face of Mormanism? Does Harry spend his free time walking the walk too? How much of his income goes to the church in Salt Lake City?


29 posted on 09/25/2012 11:47:09 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: xenedra

I believe that Jesus Christ is the face of the church
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So where deoes Adam fit in ???

While The LORD Jesus Christ is the God of the Christians, he is not for the Mormons...

The god of the Mormons is Adam AKA Michael the Archangel...

as Brigham Young an early Mormon prophet said “Adam is our father and our god and the only god with which we have to do”

“When the prophet speaks the thinking has been done”

“Follow the leader even when he is wrong” Dallin Oakes...

Oh dear...


30 posted on 09/25/2012 11:47:21 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Ramonne

“A lot of Baptist had that problem with President Carter.”

Yup; we Baptists had huge issues with Carter and Clinton, both Southern Baptists. They weren’t good Baptists. JFK wasn’t a good Catholic. Romney may or may not be a good Mormon; I don’t know.

I don’t care about a person’s denomination or religion. I care if a president is a strict Constitutionalist; if so, all else will fall into place when it comes to freedom, religious and otherwise.

And Harry Reid has an invisible friend — the one who tells him info about Romney’s taxes. Are invisible friends part of the “face of Mormonism”? That old cook needs to check himself into a rubber room with a drool cup and stfu.


31 posted on 09/25/2012 11:52:18 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I bet a lot of Mormons hope that people think Mr Romney is the face of Mormonism, but this Reed jerk has let the cat out of the bag.

How many people even knew that Reed was a Mormon until just recently? While it is very well known that Romney is a Mormon.

i believe reed will make the Mormons pretty unpopular.


32 posted on 09/25/2012 12:16:16 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here is where Prophet Monson and the Twelve Apostles can hit a grand slam homerun for Mitt Romney:

EXCOMMUNICATE Harry Reid.


33 posted on 09/25/2012 12:23:30 PM PDT by bigoil (Study Thy Nixon)
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To: Tennessee Nana

So where deoes Adam fit in ???


But it don,t sound like his God is reid or Obama, oh dear,,,


34 posted on 09/25/2012 12:27:16 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: bigoil

For what ???

If they excommunicate Reid they woulod have to excommunicate the fair haired boy, Willard...

Both are equally progressive liberals...

What has Harry done that Willard has not done ???


35 posted on 09/25/2012 12:44:46 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SE Mom
I guess the millions of dollars and countless charitable deeds for Mormans done by Romney aren’t the face of Mormanism? Does Harry spend his free time walking the walk too? How much of his income goes to the church in Salt Lake City?

That "walk" is to destroy Christianity and replace it with Joseph Smith's polytheistic cult, where Mitt and Harry both are being groomed to become Gods, some think that Mitt has already received the 'second anointing' by the inner sanctun and his Holy Prophet.

Harry Reid gives at least 10% of his income to Mormonism, both Reid and Romney are temple Mormons, they are both among the holy of the holiest of Mormons, it is Mormon law that they give the money, or else they are booted down to the ranks of the less holy Mormons, and they cannot become Gods, nor enter the secretive temples.

36 posted on 09/25/2012 1:26:29 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: aimhigh

I sure hope Harry Reid isn’t the face of Mormonism!


37 posted on 09/25/2012 1:33:08 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: aimhigh

I sure hope Harry Reid isn’t the face of Mormonism!


38 posted on 09/25/2012 1:33:41 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: loveliberty2

Did he think that America was founded by polytheists and polygamists?


39 posted on 09/25/2012 1:44:23 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Tennessee Nana

I see somebody disturbed your rock.


40 posted on 09/25/2012 1:58:58 PM PDT by SMM48
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