What did he foretell ?

self ^ | September 25, 2012 | knarf

[knarf]

It has been ponited out that Mohammud is now being officially called a prophet.

Which brings to my inquisitive mind ... what has he prophecied?

[knarf]

All I ever hear about is virgins and killing.

Is there a coming of allah?

[pgyanke]

The general meaning of the word prophet is one who speaks for god (lower case for the topic at hand). Often, they have foretold calamity or blessing and, therefore, the future... however, generally, they simply speak for god.

[arrogantsob]

He prophesied that if you opposed him you would die. Millions upon millions can verify that this is exactly what happened to them.

[Olog-hai]

The word “prophet” is from Greek προφημι (transliterated prophemi), which literally means to foretell.

[ricmc2175]

There are many hadiths which detail prophecies by Muhammad. One especially interesting one is that, during the digging of the Trench, his pick struck a stone three times and lightning issued forth. Each time, Muhammad issued a prophecy about the extent of the Arab conquest of territory after his death. Each prophecy was fulfilled.

[ApplegateRanch]

He prophesied that (Satan, disguised as) Jesus would come near the end, and lead all his faithful Muslims in the finally attack on, and total killing of, all the Jews left in the world, who would then have fled to Jerusalem for refuge. Somewhere in the mishmash is Jesus also destroying ‘his’ misguided followers who refuse to revert (convert) to Islam.

Revelation gives the untwisted prophecy in much more detail; with the participants properly identified; and in no uncertain terms. And also does not leave out the ending, where the plot is stopped by God; Jesus returns; and Satan and his followers are sent to final destruction.

For further reading, I recommend:

http://www.radicaltruth.net/uploads/pubs/WillIslamBeOurFuture.pdf A Study of Biblical and Islamic Eschatology

[Olog-hai]

Read this page.

But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. / And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? / When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

— Deuteronomy 18:20-22

[lbryce]

From what I know of Islam, the manner in which he so egregiously pandered to those of other religions to join his motley crew of murdering barbarians, by co-opting, adopting fundamental aspects, rituals, practices of Judaism and Christianity, it's difficult to deny or validate any circumstance in which he can claim credit for prophecy. He was asked to the effect to perform miracles, like Moses or Jesus, his response was "I don't do miracles".

Praying towards Mecca in the same direction Jews pray to Jerusalem, the prohibition of pork, praying five times a day versus three times a day for the Jewish religion, other beliefs, practices he plagiarized from Judaism were all ploys to get Jews to convert to a religion similar enough to have Jews make the transition with as little angst and guilt as possible

But the absolute most shocking aspect of Islam that demonstrates Muhammad's desperation for converts, how tacky gauche was his approach to convert infidels' of the Christianity, how he cheapened Islam to thee degree in which one of the main tenets of Islam is the divine belief in the Second coming of Christ. I was overwhelmingly shocked when first learning of Islam's belief that Christ will return for a second time, I am not saying it in any way to impugn Christianity at all, I am saying that a religion like Islam who fought Christians in the most brutal, barbaric manner for over hundreds of years during the Crusades, who look upon Christians as infidels, non-believers warned never to be befriended, who upon death are dispatched to purgatory, who have inscribed on Al Quds, the mosque built over the Jewish temple in Jerusalem, that God has no Son, to espouse a belief in the Second Coming of Christ is so emphatically transparent at the utterly cheap ploy that it was, is to gain converts by sharing the fundamental tenet of Christianity in the belief of Christ's Return, in the same way Muhammad plagiarized major religious principles from the Jewish people to entice them to convert as well.

[Mrs. Don-o]

In the Greek, prophemi does mean "speak before," but that's not all, it also means "speak for or in place of"

■"Pro" means beforehand, OR "for" in the sense of "in place of."

■"Phemi" means "to speak"

■Prophemi means "to speak before or in place of."

■The "prophemi" may be a predictor, forecaster, soothesayer, fortune-teller; and/or someone who is speaking on behalf of God

[Mrs. Don-o]

Recall that when Jesus was being struck and spit upon while blindfolded, His tormentors mocked, “Prophesy who it was that struck you.” They aren’t asking Him to foretell the future; they were saying in effect “tell us -— by getting God to tell you who struck you.”

[Olog-hai]

I quoted Deuteronomy 18:20-22 in another post on here, which outlines that the test of a true prophet is if something he foretells comes to pass or not, and that if the foretelling fails, the prophet is false.

[pgyanke]

I’m on an iPad at the moment, so I won’t wax too much. I simply want to note that your Scripture citation supports my definition much more than yours.

[Olog-hai]

How does it do so? The test specifically refers to something that is predicted in the past and comes to pass in the future being the test of a prophet. Even the Hebrew and Arabic word “nabi” (transliteration) refers to just that, i.e. foretelling events.

[slowhandluke]

The word ‘prophet’ as used by English speakers might have a Greek base, but that doesn’t fully define it. You’d also have to reference the meaning of the Hebrew word used in the old testament that was translated as ‘prophet’, which is the context that is used by most of us on this site to interpret ‘prophet’.

[BlueDragon]

I was just contemplating that very question, this early morning.

I don't think there is much other than some military victories (go smite them, take no prisoners. Allah will guide you, etc.)

Getting stopped cold in parts of Europe centuries later is of course blamed on "lack of faith", or what-have-you. Muslim nations most generally becoming true backwaters if not hell-holes at times (unless you happen to be King, or one of the King's toadies) wasn't part of the projected/foretold result, either.

Many of the muslims in today's majority Islamic nations are bitter and resentful of others' successes. That bitterness and jealousy is hidden underneath their directives to go and conquer, by hook or by crook, if direct military means to force immediate subjugation be not available.

[Verginius Rufus]

In Greek a prophetes is one who speaks for a god and interprets his will (used also of someone who interpreted the will of the Greek gods). The idea of predicting the future seems to be a secondary meaning. In the New Testament propheteia is the gift for expounding the scripture.

See also I Samuel 10.12: "Is Saul also among the prophets?"

[Olog-hai]

It was so used by the writers of the New Testament also. Furthermore, Paul made distinction between the office of prophet and other offices in the Church (apostle, evangelist, pastor, teacher, etc.) albeit with all in the context of those that speak for God in a basic sense (Ephesians 4:11).