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Yoga? It's too Hindu for church: Priest bans exercise class because it's 'not Catholic'
Daily Mail ^ | Wednesday, September 26, 2012 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 09/26/2012 9:17:56 PM PDT by Jyotishi

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To: ZX12R
You'd probably be a yoga instructor, and walking around with a jewelry laden cow.

For such an open-minded sort, you certainly have a fondness for bigoted stereotypes.

51 posted on 09/27/2012 9:37:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
For such an open-minded sort, you certainly have a fondness for bigoted stereotypes.

I think those cows are pretty cool looking, very regal. Are the Hindus the same ones that feed the rats? Or is that some other culture? I forget.
52 posted on 09/27/2012 9:43:10 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Jyotishi

Seems to me a Catholic Church should be more concerned about teaching it’s members anti-Biblical doctrine.


53 posted on 09/27/2012 9:53:27 AM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: Jyotishi

I started practicing yoga about 18 months ago. It made me a better Christian.


54 posted on 09/27/2012 9:54:46 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Cronos
If one takes the philosophy too far, it is then Hindu spirituality specifically Tantric and vedic, which asserts about emptying the mind.

That is false. Anyone who has ever done more than superficial study of the subject knows that they teach that the mind cannot be emptied. It is impossible.

55 posted on 09/27/2012 10:13:53 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

> Once had a devout christian come to my martial arts
> training class a few years ago. He didn’t come back after
> the first session, as he considered reing (bowing) to the
> sensei at the beginning and end of the session to be an
> idolatrous act and was too pig-headed to be persuaded otherwise.

Same reason why a person of a faith other than Islam needs to think twice about letting Obama win reelection; Obama bows to the Saudi king. Whenever I see someone wearing a cross these days I say to them, “Ah, so you’re not gonna vote for Obama!” Most don’t get it until I ask them why a Christian would vote for someone who bows to an Arab. Sorry about the digression from the topic of Yoga.


56 posted on 09/27/2012 10:18:06 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Bon mots

> My ex-girlfriend does yoga and she’s Satan.

Well there’s that hope & change guy, maybe he can help her. /sarc


57 posted on 09/27/2012 10:28:56 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Tuanedge
Many times I felt that while God is doing all he can to bring people into his house, some Christians are doing all they can to keep people out.
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That is so true. I droped out of going to church for years because of some of the things you described. I only started going again for the sake of my young children.

I was luckily enough to find a good Methodist church that likes to say that they are a church for un-church people.
That pretty much describes me. I am a strong believer. However, I have zero tolerance for preachy judgmental Christians.

58 posted on 09/27/2012 11:08:18 AM PDT by kara37
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To: kara37

Why would Yoga be going on in a church in the first place?


59 posted on 09/27/2012 11:11:42 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: entropy12

It is not intolerant to tell them to get their own church.

Do you think Mosques should let Christian services be held there?


60 posted on 09/27/2012 11:15:30 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Sins of a Solar Empire... I heard you are allowed to copy the original disc for friends without copyright worries. Is that true?


61 posted on 09/27/2012 11:19:49 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SoftballMominVA
She is also straightforward in explaining the role of sexual energy in virtually all forms of yoga and of ritualized sex in some yoga traditions. She also explains that yoga “is one of the first and most successful products of globalization, and it has augured a truly post-Christian, spiritually polyglot country.”

ritualized sex... by all means bring the kids

62 posted on 09/27/2012 11:28:17 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Of all the places I’ve visited, including retreats and Ashrams and classes in a variety of states, I’ve never seen anything sexual at all.

YMMV


63 posted on 09/27/2012 11:33:11 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA

If they are chanting to “the gods” then it has no place in a Christian church, get their own temple or something


64 posted on 09/27/2012 11:36:25 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SoftballMominVA

No, nothing sexual about a room full of fit women in pink leotards in the Downward Facing Dog position.


65 posted on 09/27/2012 11:45:49 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

Only if someone wants to make it sexual, otherwise, it’s nothing more than a position exercise designed to strengthen the shoulder girdle, hamstrings, and abs.


66 posted on 09/27/2012 11:50:20 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: GeronL
Why would Yoga be going on in a church in the first place?
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Why not? Haven't you ever heard the expression body, mind, and soul?

Our yoga instructor is a church member that that teaches yoga for a living. She is kind enough to offer a Tuesday night class at our church. Our church welcomes it with open arms.
We also have a financial freedom class on Wednesdays, and a building and home repair class a few times a month.

We also have the more traditional groups like the recovery group, women's group, men's group, youth groups, and of course bible study groups.

We are adding or replacing things all the time as the need and resources dictate.

67 posted on 09/27/2012 11:50:32 AM PDT by kara37
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To: GeronL

The only ‘chanting’ I’ve ever done is to God - however, others may differ. I haven’t a clue to whom they may be chanting.


68 posted on 09/27/2012 11:51:35 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA

I’m not saying a room full of fit women in leotards in the Downward Facing Doggy position are doing, or attempting to do, anything sexual for my benefit.

I’m saying the visual effect upon me can be quite sexual in nature and for that I remain,

most gratefully yours,

FW


69 posted on 09/27/2012 12:01:40 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Cronos
The thing is that Yoga originated in Tantric Hinduism but in the exercise form is not based on Hinduism in the same way martial arts in many cases is based on Chinese philosophy. I think we need to separate out the Hindu religious part from the exercise, just as how many of us have done so for martial arts

Yoga was developed to escape the wheel of reincarnation to more quickly arrive at self realization (godhood). Every gesture in Yoga is a gesture of reverence to one of the 32 million Hindu gods. It is antichristian in all of its ramifications. People need to look deeper at the practice than to view it as an exercise. It is much, much more than that.

It is the quickest method to achieve an altered state of consciousness. Faster than hypnosis, drugs, or any other technique for thos who have mastered it. It is not inocuous.

70 posted on 09/27/2012 12:25:36 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (,)
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To: Jyotishi

This’ll be an interesting thread. Sorry I am late to the party.


71 posted on 09/27/2012 12:27:01 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Texas Songwriter; Cronos

This topic of Yoga reminded me of Paul talking about eating the meat sacrificed to idols. Found the scripture in 1 Corinthians 8:

8 Now concerning food offered to idols: we know that “all of us possess knowledge.” This “knowledge” puffs up, but love builds up. 2 If anyone imagines that he knows something, he does not yet know as he ought to know. But if anyone loves God, he is known by God.

4 Therefore, as to the eating of food offered to idols, we know that “an idol has no real existence,” and that “there is no God but one.” 5 For although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth—as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”— yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.

7 However, not all possess this knowledge. But some, through former association with idols, eat food as really offered to an idol, and their conscience, being weak, is defiled. 8 Food will not commend us to God. We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do.

9 But take care that this right of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak. 10 For if anyone sees you who have knowledge eating in an idol’s temple, will he not be encouraged, if his conscience is weak, to eat food offered to idols? And so by your knowledge this weak person is destroyed, the brother for whom Christ died.

12 Thus, sinning against your brothers and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ. 13 Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble.


72 posted on 09/27/2012 12:39:34 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: Fightin Whitey

No, nothing sexual about a room full of fit women in pink leotards in the Downward Facing Dog position.

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Hilarious.

You’ve told us much more about yourself than the women in the yoga class.


73 posted on 09/27/2012 12:44:53 PM PDT by dmz
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To: All

there is such a thing as fitness yoga.

This is rather silly.

Does this priest reaaaaaly hate exercise that much?


74 posted on 09/27/2012 12:49:17 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Little Ray

Pilates ripped off many yoga moves. So now will this priest ban pilates?


75 posted on 09/27/2012 12:51:57 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

The body is a temple. You must rest it on a good foundation. (a couch is perfect for this) You must fill it with offerings pleasing to the senses. (beer and pizza are most excellent) You must distract if from lustful activities of this fallen world. (a football game on a widescreen TV is unsurpassed in commanding attention) This is the way to train the body.


76 posted on 09/27/2012 12:59:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Fightin Whitey

LOL.

Join the class. I did. For a few sessions. I’m in decent shape but that class was really difficult.

And don’t get me wrong, I like the visuals, but it would be just too exhausting to be imagining sex with all of them. There aren’t enough little blue pills on the planet for that. And then there is the realization that one comes to as we age ... the reality that if you think they are checking you out, look behind you. That’s what they’re really looking at. Your comments crack me up for their obvious truth and honesty.


77 posted on 09/27/2012 1:08:49 PM PDT by dmz
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To: TigersEye

you say that because you hate Obama (/s)


78 posted on 09/27/2012 1:47:35 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Yeah, but only because I’m a racist.


79 posted on 09/27/2012 1:50:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: All

I think this priest has cofused

eating the pretzel

with

bending like a pretzel


80 posted on 09/27/2012 1:56:05 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: dmz

Yes, I’ve done some yoga and even more pilates.

Extremely humbling. Have spent many years as a morning gym rat and yet the exertions in the classes leave me trembling and panting—and not from desire!

I’ve never harbored the delusion that anybody was looking at me except out of amusement or pity. Many of those women—and the seemingly frail, skinny men among them!—are possessed of a tremendously limber, tensile strength.


81 posted on 09/27/2012 2:16:26 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Cronos

I’m not going to comment on Hindu beliefs more than that the belief in one worshipping the self and emptying the mind are not Christian beliefs.


The Hindu scriptures - Vedas - never teach that one should empty the mind; they teach that such a goal is impossible. It’s Buddhism that teaches that. And the “self-worship” should be translated as “Self worship” which means God within our hearts, as the Soul of our souls; not that someone worships their own self.

There is a sub-branch of monism that practices ahangrahopasana (sp?) wherein they worship themselves, but it is a dead end and mistaken understanding. And does not in any way agree with the conclusion of the Bhagavad Gita, Puranas or other Hindu texts.


82 posted on 09/27/2012 3:46:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: 21twelve; Cronos

Nor do I have a problem with Hindus. They’re a very peace loving people. Harmonious people.


83 posted on 09/27/2012 4:07:23 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight
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To: Cronos

Like I said before, I have never attended any yoga class. But my wife who is a Christian likes to attend yoga classes when we are on a cruise ship. We cruise every year. Almost every large cruise offers yoga. I have strolled into the yoga classes to meet my wife there and all I saw was stretching exercises and meditation type of things. My wife says it is beneficial to her. She said there was no religious stuff in there. If yoga has survived 5000 years, ther must be something good in it. I won’t do yoga because I have no need for it. I keep myself in great shape walking 18 holes 4 times every week playing competitive golf. Golf originated in Scotland and could have Christian origins. I could’nt care less where it originated so long as I enjoy it and benefit from it.


84 posted on 09/27/2012 4:30:33 PM PDT by entropy12
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To: LukeL

Golf has roots in Christian Scotland, and I play it 4 times a week. I could not care less where it originated if I enjoy it.


85 posted on 09/27/2012 4:42:17 PM PDT by entropy12
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To: Fightin Whitey

You would have liked tonight’s yoga class...just sayin’

:)


86 posted on 09/27/2012 5:43:47 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Fightin Whitey

We worked on three legged down dog - which is down dog, with one leg up, and crooked up and over....yes, I thought of this thread and almost laughed.

Not good...got some bad boys here...


87 posted on 09/27/2012 5:59:47 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA

Head down eyes forward—that’s my motto!

Ha..you are a good sport.

Thanks for the kind word, take care!


88 posted on 09/27/2012 6:01:47 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: SoftballMominVA
Now that post was just mean!

I like it. ;^)

89 posted on 09/27/2012 6:04:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: entropy12

You don’t have a monopoly on ignorance.


90 posted on 09/27/2012 6:41:06 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: entropy12

Did you say “golf”? That’s racist (according to MSNBC)!


91 posted on 09/27/2012 7:26:48 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: stilloftyhenight; entropy12

Hindu-Americans Rank Top in Education, Income

A poster displaying the religions of India and the Indian flag hang on the wall at the India Heritage Camp in 2006. A new study shows Hindus are more educated and earn more than any other religion in the U.S.

Image - http://gdb.voanews.eu/AB77F191-CD93-43AB-B335-37BBF7DAF17D_mw800_s.jpg

Matthew Hilburn
Voice of America
July 30, 2012

Hindu-Americans have the highest socioeconomic levels among all religions in the United States, according to a new study by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion and Public Life.

Experts say U.S. immigration policy is the main reason Hindus do so well.

Both the 1965 Immigration Act and the more recent H1-B visa program set the table for Hindus to succeed. The former encouraged the immigration of professionals, particularly doctors and engineers, while the latter was designed to encourage the immigration of highly skilled “guest workers.”

The number of H1-B visas issued to Indians grew steadily in the late 1990s and early 2000s and then spiked again in 2007. In 2011, according to the study, India accounted for more than half of all the H1-B visas granted.

Chart - http://gdb.voanews.eu/F933EFE8-AC4F-48EB-AEBB-60F7844CBE57.jpg

“The education capital of this group is phenomenal,” said Khyati Joshi, an associate professor at the Fairleigh Dickinson School of Education in Teaneck, New Jersey.

The Pew study, titled “Asian Americans: A Mosaic of Faiths,” bears that out, and the numbers are staggering.

Eighty-five percent of Hindu-Americans are college graduates, and 57 percent have some postgraduate education, which is nearly five times the national average.

Education levels largely correlate to income, and there as well, Hindus rank at the top of the list.

According to the study, 48 percent of Hindu-American households have an income of $100,000 or more, and 70 percent make at least $75,000.

Another, secondary driver for the success of Hindus can be traced back to India’s caste system, according to Prema Kurien, a professor of sociology and the director of the Asian/Asian American Studies Program at Syracuse University in New York.

“Hindu migrants to the U.S. are largely from upper caste backgrounds,” she said. “Upper castes have had a long history of socioeconomic and educational advantage in India.”

According to Alan Cooperman, the associate director for research for the study, the success of Hindus stems from the type of person that chooses to leave India and who the U.S. admits. This, he said, is quite different from other immigrant groups, where there are often high numbers of refugees or undocumented immigrants.

“This is the first time anybody has had good data on [Hindus],” said Cooperman. “Hindus are a fascinating group.”

http://www.voanews.com/content/hinds_most_educated_highest_earning_religion/1449355.html


92 posted on 09/27/2012 7:53:50 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: jtal

He is right, there are all kinds of spirits and hindu yoga ones are not the good kind


93 posted on 09/27/2012 8:40:59 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Gamecock

ballet is better for that stuff, core and balance and you don’t get the screwing with your mind that comes with yoga


94 posted on 09/27/2012 8:56:42 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Jyotishi

To be fair, Christmas is pagan, having a cross is idolatry, Christmas tree is downright Satanic, taking Jesus’ name should result in death, unruly children should be killed off, other cheek must be shown, another eye must be taken out, etc.


95 posted on 09/27/2012 9:58:13 PM PDT by sagar
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To: entropy12
if it's just the stretches and exercises it is fine. There are other aspects of yoga dealing with meditation, etc. which are not completely Christian

the analogy with golf is incorrect because yoga originated not as an exercise system but as a means of connecting with brahman.

Golf, despite the beliefs of its adherents, didn't :-)

96 posted on 09/28/2012 1:00:20 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: little jeremiah

thank you for the correction


97 posted on 09/28/2012 1:00:48 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: GeronL

Ah, I wouldn’t know about that. All I know is that they operate more on a trust system than the intrusive DRM that other games use. I haven’t played it for a few years tbh, I was just scratting around for a pseudonym when signing up here and I came up with that name at the time.


98 posted on 09/28/2012 1:25:51 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; ZX12R

Hindi is a language, one of the 300+ languages in India. Hindu is a person who belongs to the Hindu meta-religion


99 posted on 09/28/2012 1:50:23 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: entropy12

I think some of the yoga stretches etc. (Surya namaskars etc) are extremely good for limbering up and making one’s muscles supple. Golf is ok to get a walk :-P but I believe that one needs to have strength training, stamina (Cardio etc.) and suppleness to have a complete workout.


100 posted on 09/28/2012 3:14:28 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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