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Pro-life video of the day: Churchgoers boo pro-lifer for questioning Sebelius
jill stanek ^ | 10.1.2012 | jill stanek

Posted on 10/01/2012 6:05:57 PM PDT by Morgana

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Anyone have a clue as to which church in DC this was?
1 posted on 10/01/2012 6:06:04 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

I just pray it wasn’t a Catholic Church.

If Catholics Booed her they need to look into going to another religion.


2 posted on 10/01/2012 6:09:27 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Morgana

Isn’t that the one barry shows up in once a year? Close to the WH.


3 posted on 10/01/2012 6:11:10 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Is that the same one that Bill Clinton used to carry a 40 pound Bible to?


4 posted on 10/01/2012 6:13:56 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Morgana

Is this it?

http://www.stjohns-dc.org/


5 posted on 10/01/2012 6:14:25 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Farmer Dean

And crawled into the church on broken glass bare kneed?


6 posted on 10/01/2012 6:15:46 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("OF COURSE I TALK TO MYSELF - Sometimes I need an expert opinion")
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To: Morgana

Good job. And by the way, the conservative vs. liberal women rule certainly applies here.


7 posted on 10/01/2012 6:17:04 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: presently no screen name; Morgana

That’s fine. They’re not Christian anyway.


8 posted on 10/01/2012 6:17:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Morgana

Must be a new age church...lots of hanky panky goes on there I bet.


9 posted on 10/01/2012 6:20:41 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Holy smokin’ pro-life babe!


10 posted on 10/01/2012 6:22:12 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Venturer

I think this is an Episcopal church. If it’s the St. John’s on Lafayette Square, it sure isn’t Catholic. They have a female minister.


11 posted on 10/01/2012 6:24:00 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: SkyDancer

And wearing a horse hair shirt.


12 posted on 10/01/2012 6:24:40 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: andyk

No kidding! Looks, brains and the courage that comes from her convictions. Beautiful inside & out.


13 posted on 10/01/2012 6:28:39 PM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Morgana

Secretary Sibelius has the mentality of a little dictator.


14 posted on 10/01/2012 6:32:51 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: Morgana
Anyone have a clue as to which church in DC this was?

This, probably. ECUSA, and it's what comes up g00gling for "st. john's church D.C.".

15 posted on 10/01/2012 6:35:48 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Never argue eschatology with a crazy person.)
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To: popdonnelly

It’s a bad gene pool. Her father was an idiot liberal Dem governor of Ohio.


16 posted on 10/01/2012 6:36:08 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: RightOnline

St. John’s is an Episcopal church very close to the White House.


18 posted on 10/01/2012 6:43:17 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: RightOnline

People who can’t read the facts before they comment are far more lost than the Catholic Church.


19 posted on 10/01/2012 6:47:13 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

Has the Catholic Church refused to give the Sacrement to Nancy Pelosi or John Kerry recently?


20 posted on 10/01/2012 6:49:34 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: presently no screen name

It might be, I don’t know.

Waggs do you have any idea?


21 posted on 10/01/2012 6:49:59 PM PDT by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Morgana

The Episcopal Church is no longer a Christian denomination. It is a Communist-front run by Communist to advance Communism in America and around the globe. The people in the pews are dedicated Communists for the most part — call them Communists who enjoy socializing at once-prominent parishes and lovers of ceremony for ceremony’s sake.

Sermons at parishes like St. John’s in the wicked Diocese of Washington are invariably Communist and multicultural and homosexualist rants, distorting Scripture like only Satan can do. One Episcopal dean of a “seminary” — a flaming dyke — calls abortion a holy sacrament. I kid you not. This people are pure, unadulturated evil who have stolen the funds of Christians ancestors to wage war against our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and God Almighty Himself. They belong in Hell — the sooner the better.


22 posted on 10/01/2012 6:50:25 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah

waggs do you have a clue? How about you LJ?


23 posted on 10/01/2012 6:50:58 PM PDT by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Lurker

In their own words, St. John’s is a, “. . . historic protestant Episcopal church located across from the White House.”


24 posted on 10/01/2012 6:54:18 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Morgana
Anyone have a clue as to which church in DC this was?

St John (Episcopagan)

I find it very consistent that churchgoers would boo her. After all, the Episcopagans were the first Protestant denomination to give an official blessing to the use of artificial contraceptives (1935 Lambeth Conference).

25 posted on 10/01/2012 6:58:22 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Morgana
It's an Episcopalian church. There's no St. John's Catholic church in DC. There is a St. John the Baptist Russian Orthodox, but I think it's a safe bet that's not it.
26 posted on 10/01/2012 7:04:25 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: markomalley; WashingtonSource

I suspected it was the Episcopagan one, just did not want to jump to conclusions.

Yes the “abortion is a sacrament” kinda gives them away, don’t it?


27 posted on 10/01/2012 7:04:58 PM PDT by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: RightOnline

Care to apologize for your rash judgment and potty language, or aren’t you man/woman enough??


28 posted on 10/01/2012 7:06:53 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Morgana

Speaking the truth in an Episcopal Church!! I bet there was more than the former Kansas Governor squirming in their skin.


29 posted on 10/01/2012 7:09:39 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Morgana

If this is the St. John’s Episcopal Church near the White House, I attended a worship service there on January 19, 1969. The service was magisterial and liturgical, in the Episcopalian tradition. I’m sure it is a very liberal church today.


30 posted on 10/01/2012 7:10:14 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: WashingtonSource
Sermons at parishes like St. John’s in the wicked Diocese of Washington are invariably Communist and multicultural and homosexualist rants, distorting Scripture like only Satan can do. One Episcopal dean of a “seminary” — a flaming dyke — calls abortion a holy sacrament. I kid you not. This people are pure, unadulturated evil who have stolen the funds of Christians ancestors to wage war against our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and God Almighty Himself. They belong in Hell — the sooner the better.

Sounds as though our current president would find a spiritual home at St. Johns if he wanted to.

If I should find myself once again in DC on a Sunday, I'll have to find another place to worship.

31 posted on 10/01/2012 7:17:52 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Morgana

That would be an improvement over what D.C. is now.

Seriously, why is anyone be against protecting life?

I spit on D.C.!

32 posted on 10/01/2012 7:25:54 PM PDT by KC_Lion ( Wherever I find myself standing, I forever stand with Israel.)
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To: Delta 21

LOL, that makes me think of my late grandfather, a Primitive Baptist. He said Episcopalians look upon the truth like a fart at a funeral. That was over forty years ago.


33 posted on 10/01/2012 7:30:51 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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Care to apologize for your rash judgment and potty language, or aren’t you man/woman enough??

Now, now, now, it's a perfectly reasonable assumption. Who would have thought that an Episcopagan church would have been named after a saint. After all, it's not like there are any Lutheran St Johns, or Methodist St Johns, or Presbyterian St Johns, or Baptist St Johns, or UCC St Johns. Why, of course, when one hears "St. John's," one would, of course, think Catholic.

34 posted on 10/01/2012 7:31:48 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: presently no screen name
Is this it?

Apparently so. Look at their Forum schedule:

September 30 -- The Honorable Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of the U. S. Department of Health and Human Services.

35 posted on 10/01/2012 7:33:49 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Morgana
Everything you need to know about "Cathy"...

Are you paying attention now?

36 posted on 10/01/2012 7:40:11 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Lurker
"Has the Catholic Church refused to give the Sacrement to Nancy Pelosi or John Kerry recently?"

LOL. It figures, just more of the same old, worn out, noise.

But, that's Ok. I understand that pointing out Catholics who behave just like Protestants is the only way some people have of avoiding the fact that the majority of Protestants are no longer Christian.

The US is now and always has been overwhelmingly Protestant.

Why not step up, take a bow, and accept a share of the credit for helping to build the wonderful Protestant society the Protestant majority has created in this country?

Oh, and by the by, both those folks have been told not to bother trying to take Communion in various parts of the country by a number of Bishops. Including now Cardinal Burke. I'm sure they can find some priest or bishop who wants to be Protestant in all but name and will permit them to partake, though.

You know, the sort people who if Protestant would deliver the prayer at the King Barry coronation or run a mega church that doesn't see anything wrong with queers marrying one another. That sort of priest and bishop can't stand being in the minority in this overwhelmingly Protestant nation and so they behave like Protestants in hopes of being accepted by the majority.

Fortunately for the majority of folks who claim to be Protestant Christians, they have no need to dig up a liberal priest since they're each their own highest authority. They would never deny themselves communion, nor would they deny themselves contraception, abortion, queer pastors, queer weddings, or anything else MTV and Hollyweird tell them is "the thing to do".

have a nice day

37 posted on 10/01/2012 7:51:48 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: markomalley
it's a perfectly reasonable assumption.

Well, not necessarily reasonable, but when I was young its what I thought. Catholics are into saints, the reasoning goes, so a church named after a saint is probably Catholic. Childish, perhaps, but no reason to think there was any ill intent. As a young Baptist, there was just us versus all those formal, liturgical places. Hillbilly Baptist, mind you. many transplants from Kentucky and Tennessee. My dad took us there because the Methodists had gone liberal. That was half a century ago. Sigh. Good times. Where I learned to love the Scriptures. Good people.

38 posted on 10/01/2012 7:54:47 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Rashputin

My goodness. It must really offend your sensibilities to reside in this country. There are majority Catholic countries in the world, you know. Maybe you should expatriate to one.


39 posted on 10/01/2012 7:58:13 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Rashputin

You need to get out more. If that’s your view of American Christianity apart from Rome, you’re welcome to it, but It’s not what I grew up with. What you just described sounds more like my Catholic relatives in the Chicago area. They pushed abortion and a life of misery on someone I dearly love. No. I don’t generalize against the whole Catholic membership because of that bad experience. The Lord knows those that are his. Just saying that hearing the stereotypes that tear down people who love the same God and the same Jesus and mostly the same Bible, well, I’m not sure who that edifies. But your stereotypes do not match the reality for a whole lot of people. That’s why I try to avoid them. Stereotypes, that is. I’m ok with people. :)

Peace,

SR


40 posted on 10/01/2012 8:09:23 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Morgana

Wow - what “christians”! They need bumper stickers - No Fetus Can Beat Us!


41 posted on 10/01/2012 8:14:32 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: La Lydia
St. John’s is an Episcopal church very close to the White House.

Glad you told me. I could not tell from their website they are Eposcopal.

42 posted on 10/01/2012 8:16:14 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Springfield Reformer
St. John’s is an Episcopal church very close to the White House.

Well, thank God for that. At least it wasn't Christians who were booing.

43 posted on 10/01/2012 8:16:41 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: KC_Lion

Looks like an old post-apocalyptic PC first-person shooter video game.


44 posted on 10/01/2012 8:34:58 PM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: wastedyears
Fallout 3 is STILL filled with less vermin than the people who inhabit D.C. right now.

That is why I prefer out west anyway.

Because Vegas....Vegas never changes...

45 posted on 10/01/2012 8:41:42 PM PDT by KC_Lion ( Wherever I find myself standing, I forever stand with Israel.)
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To: Morgana

St. John’s Episcopal Church, on the other side of Lafayette Park from the White House The Bushes frequently attended services there. Most First Families worship there from time to time during tenancy at the White House.

Like most Episcopal parishes in the past decade or two, it’s become a pathetically liberal congregation. Old time Episcopalians have long since sought religious homes elsewhere.


46 posted on 10/01/2012 8:48:40 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: RegulatorCountry

Well said, sir.


47 posted on 10/01/2012 8:55:03 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Springfield Reformer
I get out plenty which is why I know just how many churches are now Christian in name only. I've visited a great many churches and nearly every Methodist, Fundamentalist, Independent Baptist, and Lutheran, I visit has fallen by the wayside and replaced preaching Christ and Him crucified with preaching going along to get along and the Gospel of Self.

"But your stereotypes do not match the reality for a whole lot of people."

It was a Mr Stereotype I was responding to and there are a great many clones of him running around these parts.

That being the case, it's rather odd that the those who "stay away from stereotypes" so seldom speak up to counter the constant stream of negative stereotypes posted about Catholics. Ignoring the posts full of such stereotypes is at the very least tacit agreement with exactly the sort of thing you say you "stay away from".

There is no stereotyping involved in the posting of facts, and I posted facts. One, that the overwhelming majority of people in this country are Protestant, and two that the society we live in has been shaped primarily by that overwhelming majority.

While there are plenty of Catholics who are Catholic in name only and plenty of true faithful Christians among the Protestant majority in this country, neither of those facts changes the third and more important fact. That third fact is that the Protestant doctrine of individual interpretation of Scripture is the wellspring the relativism that has all but destroyed the Christian social order in this country flows from.

Individual interpretation enshrines the individual, not Christ, and has led to the now prevalent idea that there is no absolute truth valid for all people, in all places, at all times. That relativism in and of itself is a denial of Christianity and that denial of Christianity flows directly from an acceptance of fundamental Protestant doctrine. Relativism, in turn, is what has undermined Christianity in this country and given us the society we now have.

There are a lot of Catholics anxious to be Protestant in all but name who echo and implement the Protestant doctrine of personal interpretation in spite of still calling themselves Catholic. Such Cafeteria Catholics are in reality just little clones of Luther staging their own personal revolt against The One True Church. Those little revolts lead to the same destination the Protestant revolt leads to. That destination is a humanist society that worships and enshrines as the final authority in all things not Christ, but The Most High and Holy Self

48 posted on 10/01/2012 10:56:05 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin; daniel1212
LOL! Well, we who are not under the human authority in Rome might have more opportunity to combat unfair stereotype of our Catholic cousins if we weren’t all the time under constant fire from the same. Kind of affects the concentration, don’t ya know. And we do have a common enemy, as the subject of this thread demonstrates. But your post took us down another road, laying on us (who believe in Father, Son and Spirit at least as vigorously as you do) the blame for modern atheistic relativism, and so you really should not be too surprised at a spirited rejection of such a ludicrous claim.

The real irony here is that it is Aquinas, not Luther, who, at least according to some, opened that Pandora’s box:

Philosopher Leonard Peikoff, a Randian Objectivist, and therefore certainly not a Protestant, writes:

“What—or who—ended the Middle Ages? My answer is: Thomas Aquinas, who introduced Aristotle, and thereby reason, into medieval culture. In the thirteenth century, for the first time in a millennium, Aquinas reasserted in the West the basic pagan approach. Reason, he said in opposition to Augustine, does not rest on faith; it is a self-contained, natural faculty, which works on sense experience. Its essential task is not to clarify revelation, but rather, as Aristotle had said, to gain knowledge of this world. Men, Aquinas declared forthrightly, must use and obey reason; whatever one can prove by reason and logic, he said, is true. Aquinas himself taught that faith is valuable as a supplement to reason. But this did not alter the nature of his revolution. His was the charter of liberty, the moral and philosophical sanction which the West desperately needed. His message to mankind, after the long ordeal of faith, was in effect: “It is all right. You don’t have to stifle your mind anymore. You can think.”

And that is how I also learned the history of the evolution of the enlightenment, though I learned this from a Christian law school professor who was Catholic in sympathies if not formally so, though I do believe Peikoff also oversimplifies things. Aquinas began a noble project, not intended to contaminate Christian thought with pagan constructs, but to recapture the good from Aristotle and consolidate it under the banner of Christendom. But in that process he moved away from the Augustinian relationship between faith and reason and made them out to be near equal companions rather than master and servant. This paved the way for the founding of modern philosophy as an independent exercise of reason, and made fertile ground for the Darwinian scientific revolution in thought, which has far more to do with modern relativism than anything Luther and Calvin cooked up. If anything, their reform views were a serious attempt to reinstate the Augustinian balance, and thus represent the more conservative impulse.

Now I know we can and probably will go on at great length about the whole constellation of issues that separate us, and that’s all well and good if it is conducted with some mutual respect, and with a view to building up and not tearing down. But please understand, we who honor Christ, and the words of Christ, are not even going as far as your own Aquinas in terms of liberating our reason, but are merely using the natural reason God gave all men, aided by God’s own Spirit, who is specially promised to all who believe, to subject ourselves to the authority of the God-breathed Scriptures, not ourselves or other men, which is why we share a common confession in so many important particulars with our “separated brethren” across the Tiber. It’s in the Book, for all to see. We should be careful not to disturb the cords that bind us, if at all possible, and especially for reasons that have so little basis in fact.

Peace,

SR

49 posted on 10/02/2012 12:07:59 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Venturer
"I just pray it wasn’t a Catholic Church."

If they were booing it clearly wasn't even a Christian church, regardless of what it calls itself.

50 posted on 10/02/2012 1:19:23 AM PDT by circlecity
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