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New San Francisco Archbishop Must Accept Homosexuals, Says Former Catholic Charities Director
Catholic Culture ^ | 10/5/12

Posted on 10/05/2012 12:36:09 PM PDT by marshmallow

On the day that Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone was installed as the head of the San Francisco archdiocese, the former director of the archdiocesan office of Catholic Charities published an op-ed column warning that the incoming prelate should not stress Catholic teachings regarding the sanctity of marriage.

“No one expects him to be silent on church teaching, but he has a choice to make,” wrote Brian Cahill in the San Francisco Chronicle. He continued:

He can continue to be the aggressive, outspoken leader of the American Catholic bishops in their effort to prevent civil gay marriage, or he can be the shepherd of his flock. He can't be both, and if he tries, he will fail.

Our ninth archbishop of San Francisco


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholiccharities; homosexualagenda; religiousleft

1 posted on 10/05/2012 12:36:16 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

I’m sure he accepts them, and will try to help them.


2 posted on 10/05/2012 12:38:31 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: marshmallow

Where are the people pushing for Jews and muslims to serve pork and open bidding to all food vendors, not just those who meet their religious codes?

Heck, where are the homos pushing for Islamists to accept same sex marriage in SF?


3 posted on 10/05/2012 12:41:23 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: nickcarraway
and will try to help them.

Californication law now permits the Sex Positive Agenda 18 years access to your kids to sway them to hedonism.

only those persons over 18 can be counseled and helped now.

4 posted on 10/05/2012 12:42:46 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: marshmallow
From the article:
"Hopefully, he will not surround himself only with orthodox thinkers, but rather listen to a variety of points of view from his priests and parishioners."

The only thing he should hear from those who don't accept orthodox Catholic doctrine is their confession of sin and promise to repent.

6 posted on 10/05/2012 12:57:24 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: marshmallow
More brilliance from Brian Cahill:

Religious liberty and credibility, where he opens with:

"The recent compromise by the Obama administration on its proposed mandate of contraception was an appropriate response to legitimate and widespread Catholic concerns about religious liberty. Most Catholic organizations affected by the mandate found the compromise acceptable. The major holdout is the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. Even though the bishops have no credibility with their teachings on contraception, they were supported by the majority of Catholics in their initial response to the mandate."

Why let bishops drive us from church we love?, where he opens with:

"Well-informed U.S. Catholics are acutely aware of the arrogance, paternalism, flawed logic, inflammatory rhetoric, failure of personal accountability, and lack of pastoral sensitivity of many of our church leaders. The U.S. bishops have set the tone with their continued denial of the wholesale rejection of church teaching on contraception; their clumsy, heavy-handed, ineffective attempt to influence national health care legislation; their opposition to U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development regulations prohibiting discrimination against gays and lesbians; and their condemnation of the work of theologian St. Joseph Sr. Elizabeth Johnson without even meeting with her."

Also of note, Cahill served as the director of "Catholic" Charities of San Francisco from 2000 to early 2009. In 2008, his organization gave a "Loaves and Fishes" award, complete with a gala award dinner, to George Marcus, a real-estate mogul who donates to Planned Parenthood, and embryonic stem-cell research ballot initiatives.

Pray for the soul and malformed conscious of Brian Cahill.

7 posted on 10/05/2012 1:03:48 PM PDT by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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To: marshmallow

Pound Sand


9 posted on 10/05/2012 1:22:16 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Go to hell, Brian.

Hey, Christians must NEVER wish that on anyone!

What did Christ tell us when He handed down the Lord's Prayer?

Our Father,
Who art in heaven,
hallowed be Thy name;
Thy kingdom come;
Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread;
and forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who trespass against us;

and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil. Amen.

A pretty straightforward reading of the above is that if we condemn others to hell, we're putting ourselves at the same risk.

Defeat sin, but save sinners!

10 posted on 10/05/2012 1:26:14 PM PDT by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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To: marshmallow
How can it be that nobody has explained this to Cahill in his whole life in the Church? He sets up a false dichotomy: Defend the truth about Marriage, or be a Shepherd to your Flock.

Correction: change the "or" to "and".

11 posted on 10/05/2012 1:28:55 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Kindness and Truth shall meet, Justice and Peace shall kiss." Psalm 85)
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To: marshmallow

Of course they should be accepted.The ones you want most to be attending Mass are the biggest sinners.On Sunday morning,the sermon should routinely be on the Sixth Commandment.


13 posted on 10/05/2012 1:31:48 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: marshmallow
who also might help him understand how to manage the tension between church teaching and how the church can fulfill its mission in a pluralistic society

I guess the question is, "What is the mission of the church"? If it is not to lead sinners to Christ, then what is it? And if it has to compromise God's commandments and Christ's teachings to do so, has it led them to Christ?

14 posted on 10/05/2012 1:37:08 PM PDT by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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To: marshmallow

If he accept them then the Catholic Church should just go away.


15 posted on 10/05/2012 1:42:49 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: marshmallow

I know the people in the pews at San Francisco’s Catholic churches, and the parents of the parochial school kids.

They certainly don’t think the way this fellow seems to think they do. The vast majority who show up for Sunday Mass in San Francisco are Hispanics and Filipinos who are very conservative and have no problem at all with the Archbishop.

If that guy represents anyone, its a few wealthy liberals among whom he fund-raises, and a few of the clergy.


16 posted on 10/05/2012 2:00:14 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Yossarian

I’m agnostic.

Plus, I’ve spent a lifetime of being on the receiving end of “Go to hell, Brian” so if I have an excuse to say it, I’m going to.

:p


18 posted on 10/05/2012 3:53:50 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: Yossarian
Brian cahill is the person who made SF Catholic Charities a ‘gay friendly place’ and a very ‘gay friendly place to work’. Are there any Freepers who have some anecdotes about how CC of SF became queer central under this pos’s direction.
19 posted on 10/05/2012 4:00:18 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: marshmallow

Now you know why this nitwit is the former director.


20 posted on 10/05/2012 4:30:11 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: marshmallow

“Lovoe the sinner; hate the sin.”

I really don’t think Arcxhbishop Cordileone (Heart of the Lion) will sway from that.


21 posted on 10/05/2012 5:29:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow; Chode

Catholic charities director? Who died and made him pope?


22 posted on 10/05/2012 6:13:54 PM PDT by Morgana (Time to play cowboys and muslims.)
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To: Salvation

Oops!

“Love the sinner; hate the sin.”

I really don’t think Archbishop Cordileone (Heart of the Lion) will sway from that.


23 posted on 10/05/2012 6:22:40 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Yossarian
...and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.....

Since the so called gay community did not trespass against me, I have no need to forgive them their sins. Those that they molest and rape are the only ones that can forgive them and they have to ask forgiveness. I don't have to power to forgive someone that hurt someone else..only the victim can do that... But if the gay community is sinning against Gods word, who can forgive them? Not me...Where in scripture does it say we must forgive those that hurt others?

24 posted on 10/05/2012 7:05:19 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: marshmallow

Jesus let followers walk when they couldn’t accept his teachings.


25 posted on 10/05/2012 7:16:52 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Viva Christo Rey)
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To: marshmallow
He can continue to be the aggressive, outspoken leader of the American Catholic bishops in their effort to prevent civil gay marriage, or he can be the shepherd of his flock. He can't be both, and if he tries, he will fail.

Mr. Cahill is obviously ignorant of the job of the Christian "shepherd". It is not all that different than a regular one. One of the most important duties is to lead his flock AWAY from deadly and pernicious threats to their well being. Homosexual acts are such threats - forbidden by Almighty God who promises judgment - and, if the shepherd truly loves and cares for his flock, he will not look the other way when one of them heads for the edge of a cliff. Apparently, Cahill's idea of a shepherd is one that JOINS his flock as they walk off that cliff.

26 posted on 10/05/2012 10:19:56 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Salvation; marshmallow
I really don’t think Arcxhbishop Cordileone (Heart of the Lion) will sway from that.

He won't. I've never heard such anti-Biblical nonsense from him at his former place of service (Cathedral of Christ the Light in Oakland).

Remember him in your prayers.

28 posted on 10/06/2012 1:45:37 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: marshmallow

It appears the guy is saying he hopes the Archbiship won’t try to act too Catholic. (What’s a few lost souls when we can have one big happy worldly congregation.


29 posted on 10/06/2012 2:52:03 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: thecodont

I will.


30 posted on 10/06/2012 10:03:58 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: circlecity
Bingo, people need to read between the lines. Btw, tho be a Sheppard of his flock would mean taking an aggressive stand against same sex disorder “marriage”/civil unions accepted in the Church. The two are not mutually exclusive despite what this social justice fool spouts.
31 posted on 10/06/2012 10:10:59 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: marshmallow

The Catholic Church is far too “welcoming,” which disqualifies it as a true Church.

Same with any professed “church” of Jesus Christ. He demanded standards. If you didn’t meet them, then don’t let the door hit you on the way out.


32 posted on 10/06/2012 10:51:53 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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