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OBAMA CAMPAIGN DENIES ANTI-MORMON MESSAGE AIMED AT CATHOLICS
One News Now ^ | October 3, 2012

Posted on 10/06/2012 3:09:38 PM PDT by NYer

The Catholic Association is taking to task a pro-Obama group for an "incredibly intolerant" polling effort in Ohio, suggesting Catholics should not support Mitt Romney because he's a Mormon.

A group calling itself "Catholics for Obama" is conducting push-polling in The Buckeye State, attempting to make Romney's Mormonism an issue. Obama supporters making phone calls on behalf of the group have several Catholic organizations outraged about the nature of the calls. In a scripted phone message, Catholics are being asked: "How can you support a Mormon who does not believe in Jesus Christ?"

Maureen Ferguson is senior policy advisor for The Catholic Association.

"We're deeply concerned about it, but frankly not that surprised given this president's abysmal record on religious liberty," says Ferguson. "He has chosen to pick a fight with people of faith over and over again in his administration. So it's very disappointing and a disturbing report."

Ferguson's group described Congressman Paul Ryan, the GOP vice-presidential candidate, as a "smart, serious Catholic [who] has been steadfast on issues of fundamental principle - defending religious liberty, life, and traditional marriage." Contrary to what Catholics for Obama contend, Ferguson says many Catholics support the Romney/Ryan ticket.

"This [polling by Catholics for Obama] is incredibly intolerant, not to mention the fact that the Constitution prohibits any religious test for office," says the senior policy advisor. "And also just shocking in that it comes from a president who has done nothing but try to divide people based on religious grounds."

An Obama campaign spokesperson issued the following statement to U.S. News, which broke the story: "As a campaign, we have made it unequivocally clear that a candidate's religion is out of bounds. The activity that is being attributed to the Obama campaign and our Catholics for Obama program is categorically false."

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012electionbias; antimormon; discrimination; godgap; liberalbigots; liberalintolerance; mormon; obama; religiousleft; romney; smearcampaign

1 posted on 10/06/2012 3:09:55 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 10/06/2012 3:10:47 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

Those “Catholics for Obama” support a pro-Islamist, pro-abortion, pro-infanticide, pro-homosexual anti-Catholic secular humanist named Barack Hussein Obama. They lie.


3 posted on 10/06/2012 3:17:14 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: NYer

The problem with anti-Mormonism pushes by liberals and other assorted infidels is that they are so utterly ineffective. Give me money and free reign to design ads, and the LDS would lose millions of its members within the first week.


4 posted on 10/06/2012 3:22:17 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: NYer

Well, Mormonism is relevant because Bishop Romney is high up in the LDS. But the liberals are going to have a hard time pushing the issue, since they blame all “discrimination” on conservatives. So, about all they can say is, “Psst! Did you know that Romney is a Mormon? Pass it on, but quietly!”

I think that there will be some problems with this issue, more among Evangelicals than Catholics. But if push comes to shove, better a Mormon like Mitt than a Mohammedan like Hussein.


5 posted on 10/06/2012 3:28:19 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Well, thanks to the brilliant GOP, they’ve managed to shove plenty of faithful folks into the Kobayashi Maru.

At least we do have actual Christians to vote for.


6 posted on 10/06/2012 3:41:56 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: RaisingCain; Admin Moderator
Give me money and free reign to design ads, and the LDS would lose millions of its members within the first week.

Are you soliciting donations on Free Republic?

Is this what your 'god' is leading you to do? Make a youtube video then.

7 posted on 10/06/2012 4:01:03 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: Cicero

“How can you support a Mormon who does not believe in Jesus Christ?”
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In 2008, Obama himself described Jesus as nothing more than a teacher. By his deeds, we know he not Christian.
Abortion alone, would make me vote for ANYONE against him.


8 posted on 10/06/2012 4:05:51 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: NYer
>> A group calling itself "Catholics for Obama" is conducting push-polling in The Buckeye State, attempting to make Romney's Mormonism an issue. Obama supporters making phone calls on behalf of the group have several Catholic organizations outraged about the nature of the calls. In a scripted phone message, Catholics are being asked: "How can you support a Mormon who does not believe in Jesus Christ?" <<

But wait, the mainstream media keeps telling us that only "evangelicals" don't think Mormons are Christian. Why are they running this story? Make up your mind, mainstream media.

9 posted on 10/06/2012 4:28:08 PM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: NYer

Ping for later


10 posted on 10/06/2012 4:31:04 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: NYer
OBAMA CAMPAIGN DENIES ANTI-MORMON MESSAGE AIMED AT CATHOLICS

Then who were you aiming it at?

11 posted on 10/06/2012 4:41:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: NYer
Given the choice between an atheist and a Mormon this Catholic will take the Mormon every....single...time!
12 posted on 10/06/2012 4:48:26 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: NYer

Anyone that votes for the baby murdering, homo-marriage-loving radical Obamagabe, CAN NOT call themselves a Catholic any longer. Fact is fact. Either follow the teachings on the moral absolutes of the Church, or don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.


13 posted on 10/06/2012 5:43:12 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NYer
A group calling itself "Catholics for Obama" is conducting push-polling in The Buckeye State, attempting to make Romney's Mormonism an issue. Obama supporters making phone calls on behalf of the group have several Catholic organizations outraged about the nature of the calls. In a scripted phone message, Catholics are being asked: "How can you support a Mormon who does not believe in Jesus Christ?"

So that's why Lieberman had to run as an independent last time! [/sarcasm]

All kidding aside, can you imagine any Catholic Democrat organization using such a tactic against an Orthodox Jewish opponent? Well . . . if the Orthodox Jewish opponent were Republican, they just might.

14 posted on 10/06/2012 5:46:47 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: DaveMSmith; RaisingCain

That was a very strange response to RaisingCain’s post.


15 posted on 10/06/2012 7:14:56 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: NYer

Catholics for Obama — talk about an oxymorn.

No Catholic should vote for the abortion funding, baby-killer Obama. (Even if they are a dimocrat.)


16 posted on 10/06/2012 8:00:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RaisingCain
You post conclusory statements that you have not proven. For example, here you say Mitt Romney is a pathological liar with an insatiable lust for power. The burden of proof is on you, the one making the conclusory assertion, not on those questioning your n00b motives.
19 posted on 10/06/2012 8:14:50 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: aposiopetic

“You post conclusory statements that you have not proven. For example, here you say Mitt Romney is a pathological liar with an insatiable lust for power. The burden of proof is on you, the one making the conclusory assertion, not on those questioning your n00b motives.”


We were already arguing about this in the other thread, which I falsely assumed your response here was in. Go back there and watch the Mittens montage video I posted.


20 posted on 10/06/2012 8:19:05 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: RaisingCain

Everyone knows Mormonism is lunacy. They actually think Jesus popped down in north America and gave his message to the Indians.

_Everyone_ knows it just didn’t happen that way. It was the Virgin Mary who popped down about 400 years ago, and met Juan Diego in Mexico city, and told him that all -Mexican- Indians should be Catholic.

Lets just get the Moslem out of the way for this month. At least Romney doesn’t hate America.


21 posted on 10/06/2012 9:26:50 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: ansel12; RaisingCain
Okay, let me be quite clear...

What I'm reminded of is justification of violence in the name of God. Specifically, in violation of the Spiritual sense of the fifth commandment:

In the spiritual meaning, murders stand for all methods of killing and destroying people's souls. There are many different methods, such as turning people away from God, religion, and divine worship; setting up roadblocks against such things; and persuading people to turn away from and even feel aversion to such things. All the devils and satans in hell practice these methods. People in our world who violate and prostitute the holy things of the church are connected to these devils and satans. The king of the abyss, who is called Abaddon or Apollyon (meaning the Destroyer, Revelation 9:11), stands for people who use falsities to destroy souls. The "killed" in the prophetic Word have the same meaning, as for example in the following passages:

Jehovah God said, "Feed the sheep for slaughter whom their owners have killed." (Zechariah 11:4, 5, 7)

We have been killed all day long; we are considered a flock for slaughter. (Psalms 44:22)

He will cause those who are yet to come to take root in Jacob. Was he killed in the way that his henchmen would kill? (Isaiah 27:6, 7)

A stranger comes only in order to steal and slaughter the sheep. I have come so that they may have life and abundance. (John 10:10; other such passages are Isaiah 14:21; 26:21; Ezekiel 37:9; Jeremiah 4:31; 12:3; Revelation 9:5; 11:7)

This is why the Devil is called "a murderer from the beginning" (John 8:44).
~ True Christianity #310 Swedenborg

No better than radical Islam, if you ask me...

22 posted on 10/06/2012 9:43:07 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: DaveMSmith

I don’t have any idea what your post is about, can you try explaining your problem with post 4, and do it in plain language?


23 posted on 10/06/2012 11:56:27 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: RaisingCain

Why don’t you spend more time at a Rand Paul site or an Obama site?


24 posted on 10/07/2012 3:01:29 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: NYer

Well heh, a Mormon or a muzlim...What’s so hard about that???


25 posted on 10/07/2012 12:37:09 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Given the choice between an atheist and a Mormon this Catholic will take the Mormon every....single...time!

Who says you have to vote for either one? As a Catholic, you must realize that Mitt Romney has been so involved with Mormonism his whole life that he either knows that Mormonism is a false religion and is deceiving others or he is so deceived himself that he doesn't see Mormonism's obvious errors. Neither is a good qualification for a POTUS. Don't fall for a false dilemma that you must vote for one or the other. I have a perfectly clear conscience not voting for either.

26 posted on 10/07/2012 5:15:57 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: CommerceComet
Don't fall for a false dilemma that you must vote for one or the other. I have a perfectly clear conscience not voting for either.

Geeze....not another one of these "purists".I'll sleep like a baby after having voted for *this* Mormon knowing that he has a sense of basic decency,basic decency being something that fills your pal,Osama Obama,with contempt.Forward your post to Rat Party Headquarters and they just might show their gratitude for your "principles" by offering you a romantic night alone with Moochelle,who also holds Romney's decency in contempt.

Go peddle your religious hatred elsewhere...this window's closed for business.

27 posted on 10/07/2012 5:31:32 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: CommerceComet
” Don't fall for a false dilemma that you must vote for one or the other. I have a perfectly clear conscience not voting for either. “

You can do as you wish. You can also drive past a automobile accident and not stop to assist.

Anyone who thinks Romney is not a hugely better choice than Obama is a fool. You take offense to that, or not take offense to that; but it is the truth.

No time for being nice here. Time is short and the situation is extremely dangerous.

If I am bleeding to death; I am not going to give the ER folks a questionnaire about their religion.

28 posted on 10/07/2012 5:40:09 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: NYer; PJBankard; scottjewell; ebb tide; Sirius Lee; lilycicero; MaryLou1; glock rocks; JPG; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.


29 posted on 10/07/2012 6:00:17 PM PDT by narses
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To: Gay State Conservative
I'll sleep like a baby after having voted for *this* Mormon knowing that he has a sense of basic decency,basic decency being something that fills your pal,Osama Obama,with contempt.Forward your post to Rat Party Headquarters and they just might show their gratitude for your "principles" by offering you a romantic night alone with Moochelle,who also holds Romney's decency in contempt.

Nice example of decency. I can see why you're so qualified to lecture on it. (/sarcasm)

Go peddle your religious hatred elsewhere...this window's closed for business.

You claim to be a Catholic. You might want to check out your own church's position on Mormonism before you throw around the "religious hatred" charge.

30 posted on 10/08/2012 10:18:38 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Anyone who thinks Romney is not a hugely better choice than Obama is a fool. You take offense to that, or not take offense to that; but it is the truth.

Anyone who concludes that Romney is "hugely better" than Obama hasn't really looked at Romney's record very closely. No matter how you slice it, this election is the proverbial selecting the lesser of two evils. Just because one is a little better than the other, doesn't make him worth voting for.

This election has to pose a serious dilemma to a real conservative. Anyone who votes for Mitt Romney with enthusiasm has shown to me that he or she isn't a real conservative. I won't condemn anyone who decides to vote for Romney nor will I condemn someone who decides to sit out his Presidential election. Dilemmas make for hard choices.

31 posted on 10/08/2012 10:36:23 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: CommerceComet
” No matter how you slice it, this election is the proverbial selecting the lesser of two evils. “

Every election is. They are called politicians.

32 posted on 10/08/2012 10:46:22 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Every election is. They are called politicians.

The only reasons that a conservative could vote for Romney are Paul Ryan and Obama.

If the Republicans flipped the ticket, I'd vote for it in a second. However, Paul Ryan is nothing but window dressing and will have no influence in a Romney Administration.

I not convinced by the "he's better than Obama" argument. Everyone is. There's not enough improvement over Obama in Romney to convince me to vote for him and assure that we won't have a conservative heading the Republican ticket until 2020, assuming Mitt hasn't accomplished his father's dream of destroying all vestiges of the Goldwater and Reagan Revolutions.

On election day, I'm going to vote for all the conservatives I can find on the ticket which means that Mitt Romney will not get my vote (nor will Obama, of course).

33 posted on 10/08/2012 12:09:21 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: CommerceComet
“I not convinced by the “he's better than Obama” argument. “

One’s a capitalist; one’s a Marxist.

That's a pretty stark difference right there.

We could go on and put together a pretty lengthy list for you.

34 posted on 10/08/2012 12:35:17 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: CommerceComet; Gay State Conservative
You claim to be a Catholic. You might want to check out your own church's position on Mormonism before you throw around the "religious hatred" charge.

Your response suggests you believe that voting for him means you are embracing his religious views and ways. If that be the case, a Catholic could not vote for anyone other than a Catholic.

Secondly, just because he is a Mormon does not mean he will institute his religious beliefs upon you. This has been shown through several articles and personal posts by people of different religious backgrounds who have interacted with Mr. Romney.

As well, it is not our place to judge him, for God will provide proper judgment for his actions here on earth. I can only pray that he may receive salvation by seeing the way, the truth, and the light.
35 posted on 10/08/2012 3:27:26 PM PDT by PJBankard (I told my friends I was heading to Octermocty for the weekend. They replied... "Wear the fox hat")
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