Skip to comments.Bishop vs. Bishop: Lutheran Calls Out Catholic Over Marriage
Posted on 10/18/2012 7:22:25 AM PDT by marshmallow
The retired presiding bishop of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Rt. Rev. Herbert Chilstrom, has delivered a stinging, public critique of his former Roman Catholic counterpart in Minnesota for aggressively campaigning for an anti-same sex marriage amendment on the November ballot.
I recognize your authority in formulating positions for your own flock in Minnesota: That is one thing, Chilstrom said in a letter to Roman Catholic Archbishop John Nienstedt, published in the Minneapolis Star Tribune.
But for you and others to campaign for an amendment that imposes your stance on all citizens in Minnesota including other Christians, believers of other faith groups and unbelievers it is overstepping your bounds.
Minnesota is one of four states voting on marriage this November. Washington, Maryland and Maine will cast ballots on whether to approve marriage equality. In Minnesota, Nienstedt has put $650,000 in church money into promoting the state constitutional amendment that would ban same-sex marriage.
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satan must be laughing his head off.
Biblically only a man and a woman can marry. Men are not supposed to have intimate relations with anyone who is not their wife, not with men, not with children not with women who are not their wives. Women are not supposed to have intimate relations with anyone not their husband, not with men, not with children, not with other women.
If the world obeyed this COMMANDMENT FROM GOD, there would be a lot less pain in the world.
Yeah, it is so easy to take cheap shots at a faith which has been around for roughly 2000 years and still manages to retain about 68% of their members.
Give the ELCA another generation and I'll bet they won't even be retaining 50%.
The toughest thing for me about leaving was some of the nice people and the social networks I left behind. This is the only thing which keeps most of their remaining congregants in the pews.
The thing I miss the least is the left-wing gospel and false doctrines as preached by the jerks in leadership positions.
Apparently, the right to the public expression of religious opinions is reserved to heretics.
Marriage is NOT a privage issue.
Marriage is a PUBLIC issue.
Homosexuals want to impose their view of recreational sex as the MANDATORY PUBLIC VIEW.
It is not an equal issuee. It is NOT a civil rights issue.
It is not “equality” as the propagandists would hold.
So it’s “overstepping” for the Catholic bishop to “campaign for an amendment that imposes his stance on all citizens in Minnesota,” but it’s perfectly ok for the Lutheran tool to advocate for a revision to an insitution that goes back thousands of years and also imposes HIS stance on all citizens of Minnesota ...
Must be liberal “logic” at work.
That is precisely the view from the Left. If you do not agree with them, they intend to hound you out of the public arena.
these are NOT equal bishops.
This is very goebles of him.
it is not a 50/50 debate.
The disgraced retired lutheran homosexual population is very tiny compared to the catholic church population.
As usual in these stories, the person described as “Lutheran” is really not. He’s ELCA.
I feel sorry for Lutherans and, for my feeling that way, I praise the Lord and thank my Church.
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:: Biblically only a man and a woman can marry. ::
Chilstrom could care less about what the Bible has to say. He gets his opinions from the number of dollars in the plate.
Indeed, it is Archbishop Nienstedt’s duty to urge the people of his state to respect traditional marriage. Rev. Chilstrom has every right to courteously state his own opinion, but he needs to recognize that many fine Americans strongly, strongly disagree.
And I'm not Roman Catholic or Lutheran, by the way.
Marin Luthor would be puking.
This Marxist revisionism of religions where Evil is Good is absurd. The sexist “marriage” idea is really creepy and denies children their natural right of a mother and father. It destroys the inherent moral Duty in all mankind to raise their own offspring. What a joke-—a “religion” which destroys Natural Rights and Duties—the protection of these Rights are the only reason for formation of governments.
Thank God, the Catholics haven’t capitulated to the irrational, evil ideology of Satanists although they have been infiltrated by many progressives.
These Lutherans are trying to normalize this:
I recognize your authority in formulating positions for your own flock in Minnesota: That is one thing...”
That’s pretty big of him. Glad he cleared that up right from the start.
Hooray for Bishop Ninestedt!
Words no longer have meaning. Evangelical...Lutheran ....these words used to mean outreach, fundamentalist teaching....now its heresy and sodomy promoting hell.
The retired bishop's successors are resolutely, defiantly carrying on his legacy of apostasy
A church is a living entity. Once the Spirit departs, though, it dies. All you are left with is an empty shell of a religion. Nothing left to do but call in the realtors.
How much less could Chilstrom care?
This has nothing to do with their "Civil Rights" or "Human Rights". It's a small percentage of the population demanding the to have their hideous and unnatural behavior accepted and approved of by the society at large in spite of the fact that the majority believe such folks are disgusting perverts deliberately mocking God through their behavior.
The fact that so many people see nothing wrong with giving in to their demands shows that Christ has already given this nation over to a reprobate mind. Of course, some of us knew that when King Barry was elected because only reprobates
Exactly. As others have said, the problem isn't the mediocrity sitting in the White House, its the 50% of Americans that didn't notice what a mediocrity he is.
There is a kind of corruption of the spirit that renders you incapable of distinguishing right from wrong and good from evil. Once it reaches critical mass in a society you have dark days ahead. And no way of knowing why.
Should be obvious since only the ELCA and NALC use the term "bishop"...but we can't expect the average newspaper reader to know the intricacies of ecclesial nomenclature.
With people like Rev. Herbert Chilstrom, working for him the devil is making his great last stand.
The Lutheran “Church” is a joke and their “bishops” have no authority because they broke away from God’s Pilgrim Church on Earth, hence, they no apostolic line of succession. There is one Holy Christian Church and that is the Catholic Church.
The Lutheran “Church” is a joke and their “bishops” have no authority because they broke away from God’s Pilgrim Church on Earth, hence, they have no apostolic line of succession. There is one Holy Christian Church and that is the Catholic Church.
There is one Holy Christian Church and that is the Catholic Church.
As for the apostles i only recognize the twelve.
There is a major distinction in REAL CATHOLICS, and fallen away “Catholics” who attend Church once a year at Christmas, and never go to reconciliation. They do not follow the teachings of the faith and shouldn’t call themselves Catholic, because if you don’t abide by the teachings of the Catholic Church, you are no longer a Catholic. The Catholic Church has been putting up with disbelievers for the last 2,000 years. It’s not easy being Catholic. It’s not for wimps.
Its not for wimps.
I can say that i am willing but when the time comes will i be the wimp or can i hold on to my faith through the ordeal?