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Brian McLaren's Son Marries Same-Sex Partner
Christian Post ^ | September 25, 2012 | Audrey Barrick

Posted on 10/23/2012 7:00:05 PM PDT by Gamecock

The son of author and speaker Brian McLaren, who is often identified as part of the controversial emergent church, married his same-sex partner this past weekend.

Trevor Douglas McLaren, 28, wed Owen Patrick Ryan on Saturday in Washington, according to The New York Times. The marriage ceremony was officiated by a Universal Life minister, and his father, Brian McLaren, led a commitment ceremony with "traditional Christian elements" afterward.

The elder McLaren recently recalled to NPR the time his son – one of four sons – came out to him.

It had just been a couple of years when McLaren shifted his thinking and abandoned the traditional view of homosexuality being a sin that he grew up with.

"I had gone through my change in this view before I ever guessed that any of my kids might be gay," he said on the radio program.

"I was a good kid, I believed what I'd been told. And as a pastor, I started having gay people come out to me and what became clearer and clearer to me is that their experience was not explained by the theology I inherited," he explained. "And that it would be unjust to continue to uphold what I'd been taught. Maybe I could say it like this: My call to love God and love my neighbor was in conflict with what I'd been taught the Bible required me to say and do."

Recalling the time his son came out to him, McLaren stated, "So I went through that shift in my own thinking. Couple of years after that, when I really in some ways come out myself as a person who no longer supported the traditional view and one of my sons came out to me, I just remember I cried and cried because my thought is 'Oh no, if my son has been going through the same kind of pain so many other people did and I didn't know it, I just couldn't live with that.'"

To his relief, he said, his son Trevor never worried about his parents accepting him.

McLaren is the author of A New Kind of Christianity and most recently Why Did Jesus, Moses, the Buddha and Mohammed Cross the Road?. Decades ago, he and a number of pastors had started what was called the emerging church movement to reach young people. But that later became divided as some pastors, including Mark Driscoll, left over theological concerns.

Matthew Schmitz, deputy editor of First Things, summed up McLaren's journey in an article Tuesday: "Brian McLaren started out wanting to reach the unchurched end up performing a commitment ceremony that stood outside the church not only physically (at the Woodend Sanctuary of the Audubon Naturalist Society in Chevy Chase, Md) but also doctrinally - in contravention of clearly delineated Christian teaching on the nature of sex and marriage. His desire for a more authentic and less abstracted faith took him away from the concrete body of Christ."


TOPICS: Current Events
KEYWORDS: brianmclaren; commitmentceremony; homosexualagenda; mclarenson; religiousleft; sin; unchurched; ybpdln

1 posted on 10/23/2012 7:00:06 PM PDT by Gamecock
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2 posted on 10/23/2012 7:02:43 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock
...led a commitment ceremony with "traditional Christian elements"...

The problem that leaps out at me on this one is that Christ *very* strongly disapproves of such ceremonies.

3 posted on 10/23/2012 7:09:30 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: Gamecock
Trevor Douglas McLaren, 28, wed Owen Patrick Ryan

No, he didn't. They committed a perverse mockery of a wedding; they pledged themselves to a life of buggery.

Brian McLaren, led a commitment ceremony with "traditional Christian elements" afterward.

Nonsense. Traditional Christian elements do not celebrate sodomy.

4 posted on 10/23/2012 7:19:22 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Gamecock

Daddy must be so proud....


5 posted on 10/23/2012 7:20:50 PM PDT by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: Gamecock

They did not wed.
They had a ceremony where they pretended they were normal.


6 posted on 10/23/2012 7:25:28 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: coolbreeze
Read the second paragraph ... Daddy was soooooo proud.

Makes me wanna PUKE!

7 posted on 10/23/2012 7:25:47 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Gamecock

Why do these Godless pervs want to have the trappings of Christianity without Christianity?


8 posted on 10/23/2012 7:30:18 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Gamecock
But that later became divided as some pastors, including Mark Driscoll, left over theological concerns

How can there be such concerns without any theology whatsoever??

9 posted on 10/23/2012 7:31:42 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

I guess not having theology was the concern?


10 posted on 10/23/2012 7:48:00 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

And the perversion continues. When do we sanctify sex with livestock and corpses? It will be the next step.


11 posted on 10/23/2012 8:22:14 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Gamecock

Same old, same old. Another compromising Christian preacher becomes a post-Christian preacher.

The law of God has not changed and will not. The law demands and condemns. Neither has His gospel changed, nor will it change. The gospel promises and forgives. Unless one keeps these two straight (no pun intended) and well distinguished the one from the other, there will be no end of confusion and every variation of misbelief and then unbelief will be the result.


12 posted on 10/23/2012 8:23:33 PM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Gamecock

Love is not helping your son by giving him a shove into everlasting damnation. It is giving your son your hand, helping to pull him away from hell’s fire, burning hotly at his feet.


13 posted on 10/23/2012 8:25:47 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: Gamecock

Well ain’t that special?


14 posted on 10/23/2012 8:37:24 PM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Gamecock

protestantism is so much easier than true Christianity....you get to make up your own rules as you go along!!


15 posted on 10/23/2012 8:44:54 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: Gamecock

No he didn’t. Calling it marriage does not make it marriage.


16 posted on 10/23/2012 8:54:26 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Belteshazzar

I was thinking about the reality you speak of today, while out riding my bike. It seems odd, but the God who rightly condemns is the same God who provides salvation from His own rightful condemnation!

Pretty amazing to me, one who needs such a God!


17 posted on 10/23/2012 8:57:39 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: terycarl

That is unfair. Faithful Protestant Christians believe in God’s plan for sexuality and for marriage. This issue is tearing denominations apart. The orthodox who are seeing their church’s embrace immorality are torn apart by this. It has caused great grief for many Protestant Christians who see their denominations betraying Scripture and their church’s own laws on this matter.


18 posted on 10/23/2012 8:59:35 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: Gamecock
Brian McLaren is a HERETIC, plain and simple. He is preaching another/different o-called "gospel". He is preaching another/false "christ" and he is deceiving multitudes with his perverted "theology" and "god' of his own imagination.

I pray that he will repent, turn from his wicked ways and come to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ before it is eternally too late for him, his family and multitudes whom he is decieving.

P.S. I like your graphic. It is so sad, but true. Rick Warren and his unbiblical, "Seeker-Sensitive" so-called "philosophy of Ministry" model is also heretical.

19 posted on 10/23/2012 9:11:57 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: avenir
"but the God who rightly condemns..."

God does not condemn. We choose damnation and God respects our choice.

Peace be with you.

20 posted on 10/23/2012 9:16:22 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Gamecock
"Why Did Jesus, Moses, the Buddha and Mohammed Cross the Road?"

I've never heard of McLaren unless he runs a Formula 1 team as well, but this title smacks of Universalism

21 posted on 10/23/2012 9:56:42 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: GeronL
Why do these Godless pervs want to have the trappings of Christianity without Christianity?

Are you referring to Brian McLaren, his son, or both?

22 posted on 10/23/2012 10:39:27 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

The whole nut-wagon lot of them, the fruit loops and flakes too


23 posted on 10/23/2012 11:09:03 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: terycarl

So much better to worship icons and weeping statues and every Mark, Luke and Mary instead of the true path of going to heaven through the salvation of Jesus.

Jesus is the only Saint, the only deity we are told to pray through to reach God.


24 posted on 10/23/2012 11:12:13 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Jmouse007

McLaren is simply a symptom of the “Emergent Church Movement.” He is only one of dozens of “Christian” leaders with this world view.

I’ve come to recognize that this heretical teaching is infiltrating even traditionally orthodox churches. When a church begins segregating services into “traditional” and “contemporary” worship, be assured that this is the beginning of this leaven working its way into the whole body.


25 posted on 10/23/2012 11:16:16 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Natural Law
We choose damnation and God respects our choice.

We start out damned, because of our sins. We then can choose salvation, and thereby become saved. If we do nothing, we remain damned.

26 posted on 10/23/2012 11:43:55 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: terycarl
"protestantism is so much easier than true Christianity....you get to make up your own rules as you go along!!"

Dude, you know nothing about McLaren or "emergent" Christianity. They hate Protestantism. It is a post-modern mindset that believes there is no such thing as truth, only individual "narratives". The hate is strong in you.

27 posted on 10/24/2012 1:15:36 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: terycarl

Oh, come on. That is a ridiculous statement and your heart very well knows it. It would be as ridiculous as saying that romanism is much easier than true Christianity. You don’t have to worry or pray about what to think or say or do, just do what the system tells you and have the dead pray for you so you don’t have to face God.

You know that you know better. But yet you took the time to type something like that. sigh...


28 posted on 10/24/2012 5:20:23 AM PDT by lupie
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To: GeronL

“The Holy Church of Christ Without Christ: where the blind don’t see, the lame don’t walk, and what’s dead stays that way.” - Flannery O’Connor


29 posted on 10/24/2012 7:06:14 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("As it is written, the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you." Romans 2:24)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

BUMP


30 posted on 10/24/2012 7:20:47 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Gamecock

None of this nonsense is marriage...’if wishes was fishes’...


31 posted on 10/24/2012 7:24:05 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: avenir

avenir wrote:
“ It seems odd, but the God who rightly condemns is the same God who provides salvation from His own rightful condemnation!”

Nicely phrased. You have succinctly encapsulated the out-of-this-world nature of God, “who so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son.”


32 posted on 10/24/2012 8:10:37 AM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Bellflower
"We start out damned, because of our sins."

I guess we are going to have to disagree on the doctrine of total depravity to a degree. We begin wounded by original sin, but not damned by it. Can we agree, as Thomas Aquinas wrote, that special Grace is necessary for us to do any supernaturally good act, to love God, to fulfill God's commandments, to gain eternal life, to prepare for salvation, to rise from sin, to avoid sin, and to persevere, and that we must cooperate with that special Grace?

Peace be with you

33 posted on 10/24/2012 12:16:53 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Gamecock

LOL “Married”? LOL Hardly. This isn’t a real marriage, this is a FLUKE partnership

The term “marriage” should only be reserved for couples who can produce young. They need the tax break to take care of their offspring. It is biologically IMPOSSIBLE for homosexuals to procreate.

Marriage = 1 man + 1 woman. Anything else is a joke. The government can claim these 2 men are “married” all they want, they aren’t married in my eyes.

2 men are friends, not spouses


34 posted on 10/24/2012 2:45:23 PM PDT by NerdOfReason
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To: GeronL
So much better to worship icons and weeping statues and every Mark, Luke and Mary instead of the true path of going to heaven through the salvation of Jesus. Jesus is the only Saint, the only deity we are told to pray through to reach God

Catholics know all about Jesus...He founded our religion. Your statements concerning Catholics show that you know little or nothing....Noone "worships" icons...we decorate our buildings with them.

35 posted on 10/24/2012 4:01:33 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: GeronL
"So much better to worship icons and weeping statues and every Mark, Luke and Mary instead of the true path of going to heaven through the salvation of Jesus."

This is wrong on so many level it suggests that it is intentionally so. Catholics worship only the Triune God. We do not worship icons, statues (weeping or otherwise) or saints. Eastern Catholics believe that icons represent a window to a heaven through which we can more accurately contemplate God in all His glory. It is strictly a tool to help focus the mind, much like religious art of all kinds in the Roman Rite. We do not worship saints, we venerate them. Perhaps your error arises from too narrowly defining the verb "to pray" and being synonymous with worship.

Jesus is the only Saint, the only deity we are told to pray through to reach God."

Jesus is not a Saint, He is the second hypostasis in the hypostatic union that is the Trinity. He one in being with the Father, wholly God.

Peace be with you

36 posted on 10/24/2012 5:30:45 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: lupie
Oh, come on. That is a ridiculous statement and your heart very well knows it. It would be as ridiculous as saying that romanism is much easier than true Christianity. You don’t have to worry or pray about what to think or say or do, just do what the system tells you and have the dead pray for you so you don’t have to face God. You know that you know better. But yet you took the time to type something like that. sigh...

really????the christian church (Catholic) did just fine for 1500+years. The along came Luther who not only made up his own rules, but added the alone to an Epistle of St. Paul. Along came Zwingley, Calvin, Henry VIII, Wesley, and all had their own interpretation of what the rules should be. Birth control is O.K., divorce and remarriage is perfectly fine with God, some don't allow organ music in their churches, some are into handling snakes.....

37 posted on 10/24/2012 7:52:13 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: lupie; terycarl
Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

38 posted on 10/24/2012 8:29:51 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal." Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal. -----------------------------------------------------

O.K.

39 posted on 10/24/2012 9:34:01 PM PDT by terycarl
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